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[peonminer]

Where's Satoshi?

OMG this is private key to wallet....

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[rjclarke2000]

There are some funny posts today guys. Making my working day more entertaining. Adam being found, Australians, Indiana Jones.

Good work!

[ChartBuddy]

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Explanation

[suda123]

I'm surprised. It looks like this time, even some of the veterans in here tend to believe the Satoshi revelation story, that Wright = Satoshi.

Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well. As far as I can tell, the major documents containing proof of identity either cannot be verified (cryptographically, say), or haven't been verified (by some indirect method).

All in all, I see very little strong evidence, and mainly just a man whose reaction to the Wired story is consistent with someone who could be Satoshi. But in that case, motivation matters, and it's rather funny how it only seems to cross a few peoples' minds that somebody might actually want to be believed to be Satoshi. The crypto nerds mainly seem to focus on the "He just wants his privacy!" angle, so somebody possibly trying to take credit for Satoshi's work doesn't seem to fit in.

Last observation: Wright's style doesn't pass the sniff test. From the soundbites and writing samples I've seen, there's a big difference between Wright's and Satoshi's style -- the latter's phrasing and argument development being rather modest sounding, never boasting -- which means I personally want to see a lot more hard evidence -- i.e. documents constituting proof of identity between the two, that also have been shown to be authentic and non-tampered with -- before seriously considering that Satoshi has been identified.

I concur; having this conversation with a friend today I rationalized my objections to this story with pretty much the same words. Believe me we will witness several similar "revelations" until BTC becomes what's destined to. Finally, I want to put a more "simple" thought in this.

Imagine you're Satoshi; you've invented an extraordinary digital currency that will revolutionize the whole planet. You've included -but not limited to- economics, forensics, cryptography, networking, mathematics, chaotic modelling, social engineering in order to make it happen, and insure it's gonna fulfill its destiny.

Undeniably, -if you're a single entity- and not a bunch of scientists, you're quite an extraordinary mind. What are the odds you didn't close all the links that lead to you? Didn't you foresee something like this coming?

http://gizmodo.com/reports-police-raid-home-of-possible-bitcoin-creator-c-1747025289

I rest my case.

My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.

clap clap good read butters

[oda.krell]

[...]

My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.

clap clap good read butters

Snark aside, that line is, in my opinion, our take-home message so far.

By itself, it doesn't exclude the possibility that Wright is Satoshi, but it does add additional requirements on what counts as proof -- and what we've seen so far doesn't constitute that, imo.

[GGALINff]

GBTC bid for 270 Bitcon equivalent at $60 per share   ($600) underying implied
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GBTC/quote

[peonminer]

$600 by sunset

[GGALINff]

getting tempting to hit the GBTC ARB at 50% premium

[ImI]

I'm surprised. It looks like this time, even some of the veterans in here tend to believe the Satoshi revelation story, that Wright = Satoshi.

Granted, the Wired/gizmodo article and research behind is somewhat better than that awful Newsweek "Look! Same last name!" story, but aside from that: whatever hard evidence Wired has (or has revealed so far) is rather flimsy as well. As far as I can tell, the major documents containing proof of identity either cannot be verified (cryptographically, say), or haven't been verified (by some indirect method).

All in all, I see very little strong evidence, and mainly just a man whose reaction to the Wired story is consistent with someone who could be Satoshi. But in that case, motivation matters, and it's rather funny how it only seems to cross a few peoples' minds that somebody might actually want to be believed to be Satoshi. The crypto nerds mainly seem to focus on the "He just wants his privacy!" angle, so somebody possibly trying to take credit for Satoshi's work doesn't seem to fit in.

Last observation: Wright's style doesn't pass the sniff test. From the soundbites and writing samples I've seen, there's a big difference between Wright's and Satoshi's style -- the latter's phrasing and argument development being rather modest sounding, never boasting -- which means I personally want to see a lot more hard evidence -- i.e. documents constituting proof of identity between the two, that also have been shown to be authentic and non-tampered with -- before seriously considering that Satoshi has been identified.

I concur; having this conversation with a friend today I rationalized my objections to this story with pretty much the same words. Believe me we will witness several similar "revelations" until BTC becomes what's destined to. Finally, I want to put a more "simple" thought in this.

Imagine you're Satoshi; you've invented an extraordinary digital currency that will revolutionize the whole planet. You've included -but not limited to- economics, forensics, cryptography, networking, mathematics, chaotic modelling, social engineering in order to make it happen, and insure it's gonna fulfill its destiny.

Undeniably, -if you're a single entity- and not a bunch of scientists, you're quite an extraordinary mind. What are the odds you didn't close all the links that lead to you? Didn't you foresee something like this coming?

http://gizmodo.com/reports-police-raid-home-of-possible-bitcoin-creator-c-1747025289

I rest my case.

My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.

clap clap good read prof chaos

fyp

[ChartBuddy]

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Explanation

[philip2000uk]

Question: Could i sell my bitcoin in wallet while being 1 year behind?
How large is 1 year 20 weeks to download?

[jl2012]

Question: Could i sell my bitcoin in wallet while being 1 year behind?
How large is 1 year 20 weeks to download?

As long as you have the wallet and password, of course you could spend your money

It may take hours and days. If you don't want to wait, you may switch to a lite client such as Electrum

[ImI]

Question: Could i sell my bitcoin in wallet while being 1 year behind?
How large is 1 year 20 weeks to download?

i would guess 8h

[ghandi]

Next ignition now! Please!

[xyzzy099]

[...]

My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.

clap clap good read butters

Snark aside, that line is, in my opinion, our take-home message so far.

By itself, it doesn't exclude the possibility that Wright is Satoshi, but it does add additional requirements on what counts as proof -- and what we've seen so far doesn't constitute that, imo.

Looks like maybe Gmaxwell has proved that he (Wright) is not Satoshi:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3w027x/dr_craig_steven_wright_alleged_satoshi_by_wired/cxslii7

[Fatman3001]

[...]

My impression is that Wright (may he or may he not be SN) wanted to be found.

clap clap good read butters

Snark aside, that line is, in my opinion, our take-home message so far.

By itself, it doesn't exclude the possibility that Wright is Satoshi, but it does add additional requirements on what counts as proof -- and what we've seen so far doesn't constitute that, imo.

Does he still have any github privileges? Maybe one of those fancy crypto-sig thingys?

If he takes the limelight and admits to being satoshi I'll want some confirmation in that direction.

If not, he either wants to be ignored or deserves to be ignored.

[philip2000uk]

Question: Could i sell my bitcoin in wallet while being 1 year behind?
How large is 1 year 20 weeks to download?

As long as you have the wallet and password, of course you could spend your money

It may take hours and days. If you don't want to wait, you may switch to a lite client such as Electrum

Thank you, it just gets complicated for me if i was to switch wallets.  I wasn't even able to just move blocks to my laptop from pc as it messed up so i'll wait.  So i could send the bitcoins and then it just wont update till whenever but the guy on the other side would get them immediately?

Thanks

[philip2000uk]

Question: Could i sell my bitcoin in wallet while being 1 year behind?
How large is 1 year 20 weeks to download?

i would guess 8h

thanks, 30 mins later its down by 2 weeks

[peonminer]

Next ignition now! Please!

For real doeeee

[Cassius]

The Craig Wright thing doesn't add up. There's supposed to be a tx of 1.1m BTC. Where is it on the blockchain and why are Satoshi's coins still where they always were?

https://bitscan.com/articles/something-about-the-new-satoshi-isnt-wright

I'm trying to find another explanation and the only ones I can come up with are
1) Someone else has 1m BTC
2) The doc is fake