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December 16, 2015, 08:00:38 PM

It's too early to call a trend, but since the Fed announcement the yuan has lost ground against other major currencies.  Here's one example:



Source: http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CNY&to=EUR&view=12h

Bullish.


And you're posting a EURO /CNY chart.

The USD/CNY chart shows the contrary..

Bearish
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December 16, 2015, 08:05:37 PM

Bitfinex price is still oscillating around the median of the previous wedge, but given that it rebounded onto the four-day lower trend line (which I'm glad we've just tested) we might be headed upwards.
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Last edit: December 16, 2015, 08:22:26 PM by wutizurkwest

It's too early to call a trend, but since the Fed announcement the yuan has lost ground against other major currencies.  Here's one example:



Source: http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=CNY&to=EUR&view=12h

Bullish.


And you're posting a EURO /CNY chart.

The USD/CNY chart shows the contrary..

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CNY and USD haven't moved much relative to each other, they are in the same range as before the annoucement, but USD is also down against the Euro, as well as the other currencies in the drop-down selection box.

Edit: nevermind, it looks like all the currency pairs are returning to pre-announcement ratios.  Just the system absorbing the news, I guess.
 
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December 16, 2015, 08:30:15 PM

Interest rate hike is bullish for Bitcoin.  All excess liquidity from 0% interest went to stock buybacks creating a bubble in that market.  It did not create a bubble in Bitcoin.  Bitcoin was in a bear market the entire time from Gox.  

Stocks imploding when liquidity is removed means investors have to leave that market and go to a new one to try and increase or preserve their wealth.  They aren't going to put everything in a bank and make nothing while also having faith in banks at an all time low.


Totally agree.  Not to mention, global investors have bubbled and exhausted nearly every type of market out there (US stock, Chinese stock, real estate, commodities, PMs, etc.), all while bitcoin was bear trending. They'll all be looking for a viable alternate market to trade in next year.
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December 16, 2015, 08:37:00 PM

Interest rate hike is bullish for Bitcoin.  All excess liquidity from 0% interest went to stock buybacks creating a bubble in that market.  It did not create a bubble in Bitcoin.  Bitcoin was in a bear market the entire time from Gox.  

Stocks imploding when liquidity is removed means investors have to leave that market and go to a new one to try and increase or preserve their wealth.  They aren't going to put everything in a bank and make nothing while also having faith in banks at an all time low.


Totally agree.  Not to mention, global investors have bubbled and exhausted nearly every type of market out there (US stock, Chinese stock, real estate, commodities, PMs, etc.), all while bitcoin was bear trending. They'll all be looking for a viable alternate market to trade in next year.

Since when are you a bull? I'm bearish for the next 30 days.
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Last edit: December 16, 2015, 11:38:20 PM by peonminer

http://fortune.com/2015/12/16/feds-rate-hit-you/
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In one of the worst kept secrets in economic history, the Federal Reserve is expected to officially increasing its benchmark interest rate to 0.25% on Wednesday. Martin Hochstein of Allianz Global Investors estimates that investors believe that the Fed will eventually raise the interest rate to 1.2% by 2017. But according to the Fed’s economic projections, rates are likely to reach 2.6% by 2017. Historically speaking, though, Hochstein found that analysts underestimated the last three rate hike cycles. So that 1.4 percentage point difference is a “huge gap that could start some troubles,” added Hochstein.
http://www.ustream.tv/federalreserve



Assets and Liabilities of Commercial Banks in the United States (Weekly) - H.8 - Release Date: December 11, 2015
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h8/current/default.htm




The FED is in worse shape than we thought. Looks like the FED is on a famous down hill Jamaican bobsled team. FED is well on its way to finishing at the bottom first.









Transcript of Chair Yellen’s Press Conference Opening Remarks December 16, 2015


http://www.federalreserve.gov/mediacenter/files/fomcpresconf20151216.pdf

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The median projection for the federal funds rate rises gradually to nearly 1-1/2 percent in
late 2016 and 2-1/2 percent in late 2017. As the factors restraining economic growth continue to
fade over time, the median rate rises to 3-1/4 percent by the end of 2018, close to its longer-run
normal level.

 The Board of Governors also approved a 1/4 percentage point increase in the discount rate
 for primary credit to 1 percent.


Economic projections of Federal Reserve Board members and Federal Reserve Bank presidents December 16, 2015

http://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/fomcprojtabl20151216.pdf





GDP stagnant and decreasing = √
Unemployment headed higher = √
PCE inflation about to spike up = √
FED rate headed for 4% hike = √
FED inflation target at 2% = √
Total US debt $60,000,000,000,000.00 = √

There are some things USD can't buy.

For everything else, there's
BTCitcoin.
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December 16, 2015, 10:09:46 PM

It should not be too hard to guess the direction from here.
The order book is thinning and everyone is long on overextended margin.
Good luck with holding this price up.
There are as few longs open as at $435 three days ago or $420 5 days ago. The deleveraging (27M$ to 24M$) of the last 2 days seems very bullish to me.

Chart: https://bfxdata.com/swaphistory/totals
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Holliday Smiley where have you been?

Here! Just not posting often. Smiley
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December 16, 2015, 10:49:54 PM

Daily reminder:

>Trading your bitcoin for short-term profits will burn you in the long run
>You're not "lucky", you can't time the market, stop trying.
>TA (Technical Analysis) is always bullshit, you can safely disregard any retard who posts a picture of a graph anywhere.
>Gambling in any form is for braindead retards
>Bitcoin will increase, and increase by a lot, in the long run.
>The mere fact that this forum allows paid signature campaigns and third world trash to post utter nonsense in broken english for their signature campaign just goes to show this forum is reddit-tier (shit)

OP, you may now close this thread.  Everything important has been said in this post.

shitty ass autistic green text, but your 100% correct
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290868.msg13263014#msg13263014

Update: Day 2.

Still no car.
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December 16, 2015, 10:52:42 PM

836 coin market dump in one shot

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Probably someone wanted to buy a house.
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December 16, 2015, 11:03:35 PM

836 coin market dump in one shot

fat finger?

Probably someone wanted to buy a house.

Or a boat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPjKSVe1tQ 

BTW, this should be the WO-thread tune.
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December 16, 2015, 11:07:41 PM

836 coin market dump in one shot

fat finger?

Probably someone wanted to buy a house.

Damn that's a lot of coin's
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December 16, 2015, 11:08:56 PM

836 coin market dump in one shot

fat finger?

Probably someone wanted to buy a house.

Or a boat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQPjKSVe1tQ 

BTW, this should be the WO-thread tune.

Best-in-class towing. That's Ford tough.
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December 16, 2015, 11:12:45 PM

836 coin market dump in one shot

fat finger?

Probably someone wanted to buy a house.

Damn that's a lot of coin's

I dunno, in the bigger picture, one would expect somebody somewhere to once and a while exchange coins for a down payment on a house, if this is indeed to be a new default global currency. If we can't use it, what good is it?
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