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August 11, 2017, 04:12:37 PM

Another thought. My conspiracy brain is always on. I'm not so sure that these ransomware attacks asking for bitcoin, are truly initiated by "bad guys".

How do we know they aren't being initiated by the Feds, deep statists, or whoever in order to continue their smear campaign against Bitcoin?

How would we in the public know otherwise?

How do we know that BTC-e wasn't framed?

Bingo. A hacker group with two neurons wouldn´t use bitcoin. This has the CIA/NSA whatever firm in every aspect. In fact they were the very creators of the worm, that somehow got "hacked" and released by a cyberterrorist group. How convenient.

Exactly. This seems like the deep state perpetrator's playbook to me:

1. Decide that BTC-e needs to go because they can't control it or regulate it

2. Release ransomware to the UK (perhaps giving their corp insiders the heads up) demanding bitcoin

3. Collect the tiny btc ransom (which may also have been initiated by the perpetrators themselves) and deliberately run it through BTC-e's exchange servers

4. Plant supposedly independent white hat hacker with the "fix" to stop ransomware

5. Frame BTC-e, move in on and arrest Alexander, take down BTC-e

6. Win?
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August 11, 2017, 04:18:19 PM

^ they later arrested no 4 chappie
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August 11, 2017, 04:19:35 PM

^ they later arrested no 4 chappie

well, you don't want him talking now do you?
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August 11, 2017, 04:20:24 PM

But.... There are regulated exchanges that do have Monero, ie: KRAKEN.

But wouldn't Kraken require identity verification, thus nullifying Monero's anonymity benefits?
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August 11, 2017, 04:25:47 PM

http://n8prp.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/N8-Cryptocurrency-Report.pdf sorry for pdf
British plod way behind eg Dutch plod. 'Can't we just confiscate the dirty bitscoins?'
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August 11, 2017, 04:27:39 PM

But.... There are regulated exchanges that do have Monero, ie: KRAKEN.

But wouldn't Kraken require identity verification, thus nullifying Monero's anonymity benefits?

the VICTIM gets a Kraken account, not the thief
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August 11, 2017, 04:58:07 PM

the VICTIM gets a Kraken account, not the thief

Oh, yeah, lol.
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August 11, 2017, 05:20:58 PM

3,500.00 pause
3,500.00 stop
3,500.00 rewind ?
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August 11, 2017, 05:27:20 PM

Here's a translated update from Masterluc from 8/5:

"3157. This is a new historical high. Obviously, it does not want a triangle) Although you can estimate the wedge, but it's already very large in time. If the wedge, then around 3500 the price will reverse on the third wave back to 2600.

I'll leave the wedge here just in case (pic.1), although I can not believe in it.

What is there for us in the general picture ... The price is clearly storming the second red trend logarithmic line. Line wait somewhere at 3500 is just growing. Let's see how the level of 3500 reacts. Maybe it really will break through with its wedge. (Fig. 2)

In general, we must look at what will be at 3,500."


He has us going to ~$100,000 if we break up out of the wedge.

Fig. 1:


Fig. 2:

https://vk.com/bitcoin_vanga
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August 11, 2017, 05:34:51 PM

BTC scarcity getting appreciated  Cool

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6swgsf/nearly_impossible_now_to_reach_one_btc

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I spend each month on buying btc but the price goes up and i never get closer to owning one btc
The value i hold does go up and has been going up so i am not complaining but the arbitrary amount of one btc seems like it is getting further away. Owning a full coin is already out of reach for so many people less fortunate than myself
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No kidding... Not even millionaires can own 1 bitcoin: There are 33 million millionaires on the planet, so if they all wanted bitcoins, they'd have to settle for 0.5btc each... and that's without factoring whales, lost coins, institutional investors, etc etc Cool
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August 11, 2017, 05:54:15 PM

Isn't there a fib level inside 3600? 
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BTC scarcity getting appreciated  Cool

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6swgsf/nearly_impossible_now_to_reach_one_btc

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I spend each month on buying btc but the price goes up and i never get closer to owning one btc
The value i hold does go up and has been going up so i am not complaining but the arbitrary amount of one btc seems like it is getting further away. Owning a full coin is already out of reach for so many people less fortunate than myself
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No kidding... Not even millionaires can own 1 bitcoin: There are 33 million millionaires on the planet, so if they all wanted bitcoins, they'd have to settle for 0.5btc each... and that's without factoring whales, lost coins, institutional investors, etc etc Cool


THIS! kept saying this for a long time. let´s make them pay as much as possible. hodl.
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August 11, 2017, 06:14:16 PM

https://www.bitfinex.com/posts/216
no more bitfinex for u.s. folks - lucky things
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August 11, 2017, 06:24:32 PM

"land of the free"   Roll Eyes
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August 11, 2017, 06:25:06 PM

just read that after i signed in. Im wondering how much of trading volume was coming from us clients. I hope trading stays liquid there and enough margin funding available.
looks like it will be hard for us citizens to get ico shitcoins anywhere soon.
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August 11, 2017, 06:27:54 PM

just read that after i signed in. Im wondering how much of trading volume was coming from us clients. I hope trading stays liquid there and enough margin funding available.
looks like it will be hard for us citizens to get ico shitcoins anywhere soon.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6syr7u/daily_discussion_friday_august_11_2017/dlhi5mg/

US business is single digits according to this.

I wonder if the US will ever wake up to how much growth they're stunting by turning their citizens into untouchables overseas.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-11/what-mainstream-doesnt-get-about-bitcoin

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I wonder if the US will ever wake up to how much growth they're stunting by turning their citizens into untouchables overseas.

Doesn't matter, you can bet the elite will find ways to speculate on whatever asset they want, regardless of jurisdiction.  This only hurts the little guy...same as it ever was
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August 11, 2017, 06:45:43 PM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2080206.msg20798805#msg20798805
Maxwell has a go at the 'new' 'satoshi' 'email' 'leaker'
Shameful. Shameful if they're legit, shameful if they're edited.

Here was my response to "CipherionX"'s attempts at getting leaks.
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August 11, 2017, 06:46:51 PM

Another thought. My conspiracy brain is always on. I'm not so sure that these ransomware attacks asking for bitcoin, are truly initiated by "bad guys".

How do we know they aren't being initiated by the Feds, deep statists, or whoever in order to continue their smear campaign against Bitcoin?

How would we in the public know otherwise?

How do we know that BTC-e wasn't framed?

Bingo. A hacker group with two neurons wouldn´t use bitcoin. This has the CIA/NSA whatever firm in every aspect. In fact they were the very creators of the worm, that somehow got "hacked" and released by a cyberterrorist group. How convenient.

Exactly. This seems like the deep state perpetrator's playbook to me:

1. Decide that BTC-e needs to go because they can't control it or regulate it

2. Release ransomware to the UK (perhaps giving their corp insiders the heads up) demanding bitcoin

3. Collect the tiny btc ransom (which may also have been initiated by the perpetrators themselves) and deliberately run it through BTC-e's exchange servers

4. Plant supposedly independent white hat hacker with the "fix" to stop ransomware

5. Frame BTC-e, move in on and arrest Alexander, take down BTC-e

6. Win?


Until an exchange based on the blockchain appears and no one can shut it down. Smiley
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