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[JayJuanGee]

The 2x part will never happen in November but who cares?  Bigblockers have finally there BCash coin with no Segwit+8mb blocks...thats what they wanted, right?

What they want is control. Block sizes are irrelevant
 

And that is exactly what makes me afraid of a 'core' implementation. Multiple implementations needs to be highly encouraged. Software has bugs, at least with multiple implementations you mitigate that risk.

IMHO the core team is making a big mistake by making their implementation incompatible with the 2X part of the NYA. It makes me sick how /r/bitcoin is currently involuntarily displaying a very narrowed view on the matter. I care about Bitcoin and the freedom it provides and don't need anyone to tell what is best, just code and stfu.

The narrow view of core seems to be quite good because it is open to participation and has the most competent folks keeping this whole bitcoin project on track.  If you want to go with a more flexible and smaller team, go with BCH or go with some other alt.  Otherwise, maybe if the numbnuts segwit2x nutjobs fork off in November, you can go with those retards.

I am glad that core has been able to maintain its focus and not give into the various nutjob attempts at terrorism, hostage taking, blackmailing and threads from various renegade disrupters which seems to have two branches currently within the bigblocker nutjobber group (including the BCH forkers and the possible segwit2x forkers)

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[conspirosphere.tk]

Does anybody know if there is any place to bet bitcoin on Mayweather vs McGregor fight?

if there is not already betting ongoing here:
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you can start yours by creating a new contract.

[K~Ehleyr]

for me it's not personal with you or the other guy.
my point is the Brexit/remain debate is a total sideshow constructed by current political elites, completely irrelevant to the future of the British Isles, which absolutely belongs not to them but to us here present.

I certainly can't disagree that it's a politically constructed sideshow.  The problem is that it's the ordinary people that will pay the price, through loss of business, loss of jobs, loss of rights, a collapsed economy and high inflation...

If it unemployes some bureaucratic parasites in Brussels that's good enough for me.

The EU is a failed institution, they would be well advised to start winding it down before the guillotines come out.

The EU has serious problems, I never said it was perfect!  It won't be the bureaucrats in Brussels losing their jobs because of Brexit though, it will be ordinary hard-working people losing their jobs when the businesses they work for relocate to other countries in order to avoid trading tariffs and restrictions.

"The British voters will have the opportunity to change the government at the next general election, yes, but they've already shown that their judgement is flawed"
 
The voters have a different opinion then me, so democracy must be bad". Where have I heard that before?

I never said that.  Just because I say that voters made a bad choice, strongly influenced by lies, on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place, does not mean that I wouldn't defend their right to make that choice.

[jojo69]

on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,

There you go with the elitist thinking again.  I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive.

Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy?

[jbreher]

If you realize why XT, Classic, BU, BCash etc has failed ...

Hahaha. The story has not reached its epic conclusion, but the die had been cast. If Bitcoin Cash never progresses from its current position, it will already have succeeded. But it will be much more than now. By working together, XT, Classic, BU, ABC, and others have launched a winner, poised to take the crown. All in due time.

[conspirosphere.tk]

Hahaha. The story has not reached its epic conclusion, but the die had been cast. If Bitcoin Cash never progresses from its current position, it will already have succeeded. But it will be much more than now. By working together, XT, Classic, BU, ABC, and others have launched a winner, poised to take the crown. All in due time.

If they take the crown I will turn into an absolute Litecoiner to never hear of you again.

[gentlemand]

If they take the crown I will turn into an absolute Litecoiner to never hear of you again.

There won't be a crown to take. It'll have turned to dust.

[Last of the V8s]

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[JayJuanGee]

Hahaha. The story has not reached its epic conclusion, but the die had been cast. If Bitcoin Cash never progresses from its current position, it will already have succeeded. But it will be much more than now. By working together, XT, Classic, BU, ABC, and others have launched a winner, poised to take the crown. All in due time.

If they take the crown I will turn into an absolute Litecoiner to never hear of you again.

Yeah... who would want those incompetent self-centered nutjobs running the show ? 

They would definitely need to show some improvements in their whole mannerisms, temperament, reasonableness and competence before the whole situation might devolve into disinvestment from bitcoin into the bigblockers view of bitcoin. 

Probably, the market knows better than to seriously invest in any of those bigblocker projects in any kind of meaningful way that would displace the real bitcoin that actually brings value to the space by its truly secure decentralized and immutable value storage and transfer system that has a democratic and decentralized system that allows participation and contribution of competence and rewards competence and such outcomes have never been seen by the likes of no other crypto imitators, so far.

[Gab0]

If they take the crown I will turn into an absolute Litecoiner to never hear of you again.

Why don't you do us a favor and leave now? 

[Arriemoller]

on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,

There you go with the elitist thinking again.  I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive.

Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy?

What he said.

[K~Ehleyr]

on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,

There you go with the elitist thinking again.  I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive.

Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy?

No you're not "trying to be patient".  You keep dismissing my points with sweeping high-level statements on the concept without even trying to present an opposing view.

I don't know which country you're from but in most EU countries the citizens have at least a basic understanding of how the EU works and the benefits they get from it.  In the UK the public never received that education.  Successive UK governments have demonized the EU and blamed EU regulations as a scapegoat for their own incompetencies.  For example, the UK government has always allowed completely uncontrolled, unmonitored immigration and blamed it on the EU.  Most of the British people I have spoken to about this have no idea that EU countries are perfectly within their rights to require EU immigrants to register and to prove that they have the financial resources to live there without becoming a burden on the state.  As a result there's a common perception among the British public that EU immigrants are freeloaders and that the EU won't let the UK do anything about it.

Another example: take Cornwall which voted overwhelmingly to leave.  A couple of days after the referendum they realised that their local economy is highly dependent on EU subsidies.

Then there are all the people who voted to leave because of the slogan on the bus that claimed the money saved from leaving the EU would provide an extra £350 million per week for the NHS.  That was a complete lie but it probably won the referendum.

And if you've followed this at all you'll have seen the people posting on the internet at the time that they wanted to leave the EU because there were too many muslims in Britain.  Umm... how many muslim countries are there in the EU??

A person cannot make an informed decision on a subject they don't know enough about.  And centralization issues aside, the UK democratic system is one of parliamentary representative democracy.  That means the voting public don't normally get a direct say in political decisions.  Rather they elect MPs to represent their interests in decision-making.  The public don't need to understand the consequences of every political decision because it's the job of their elected MP to have all that knowledge and understanding and to vote in the best interests of their constituency accordingly.  The EU referendum was highly irregular in that respect alone, and when it was called I hoped that both sides would use their campaigns to provide facts and inform the people so that they would be equipped to make that decision when the day came.  They didn't.  The Leave campaigners put on a big circus of very well-presented lies and the Remain campaign took their assumed win so much for granted that they did nothing but repeat the same line of fear propaganda that leaving the EU would be "a leap into the unknown".  They couldn't even be bothered to explain why.

My friends and I spent a lot of time in the weeks before the referendum researching the facts and trying to understand the consequences of both outcomes, but solid information was just not available.  Call this elitist if you like, but if we who wanted to arm ourselves with as much accurate information as possible had difficulty finding it, there will be swathes of people who went into those polling booths with only their emotions and the lies they had been fed.

[conspirosphere.tk]

If they take the crown I will turn into an absolute Litecoiner to never hear of you again.

Why don't you do us a favor and leave now? 

Looks like I'm arrived before of you, noob.

[El duderino_]

Does anybody know if there is any place to bet bitcoin on Mayweather vs McGregor fight?

i would't give you the odds on mcgregor to win    like never gonna happen how much we would't like it to be

[bitserve]

That also sends a signal to the market that the "upgrade" is unanimously consensutated, even if it is done in a forcible way.

So is it logic that you don't understand, or is it English that you don't understand?

Read again.

Part 1) Sends the market the signal that the "upgrade" is unanimously consensuated. <- A signal, an "appearance". Not necessarily the "reality".
Part 2) even if it is done in a forcible way <- The reality. As the 100% is forced in second stage after a 80% consensus first stage. That's basically what hapened with BIP91..., except BIP91 was already over 90%.

[conspirosphere.tk]

A person cannot make an informed decision on a subject they don't know enough about.  

Further proof that you're out of your mind: you don't need any freaking superstate to do the f-k you want, and neither you need any freaking treaty to trade freely with whoever you want.
Maybe this tutorial could help you:

How to freetrade for dummies:
-Hey, wanna trade?
-Yes/No
/end

[Last of the V8s]

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/announcing-microsoft-s-coco-framework-for-enterprise-blockchain-networks/?cdn=disable
smh

[K~Ehleyr]

A person cannot make an informed decision on a subject they don't know enough about.  

Further proof that you're out of your mind: you don't need any freaking superstate to do the f-k you want, and neither you need any freaking treaty to trade freely with whoever you want.
Maybe this tutorial could help you:

How to freetrade for dummies:
-Hey, wanna trade?
-Yes/No
/end

LOL thank you for confirming that you have zero understanding of... well, pretty much everything really 

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/announcing-microsoft-s-coco-framework-for-enterprise-blockchain-networks/?cdn=disable
smh

"My ice cream cones shop now has blockchain and my family couldn't be happier!"

[d_eddie]

on a decision that they were not qualified to make in the first place,

There you go with the elitist thinking again.  I am trying to be patient, but this is really offensive.

Who, pray tell, IS qualified to make such decisions in a democracy?

People who have a clue about the actual consequences, I'd say.

I can't speak for K~Ehleyr, but I have been following the Brexit matter closely since the debate started. The urban people, the educated, the young, overwhelmingly voted "Remain". So did some geographical/economical minorities (notably Scotland). The bulk of "Leave" voters were working class folk, afraid because they're losing their jobs to Polish plumbers. They have been lied to, their fears exploited cynically. Now these people see that the foreign plumber isn't going away anyway, but the City workers who used to be their customers at lunchtime or when their expensive shirts needed washing are going away if the government isn't able to negotiate merciful terms. And things look like the they won't be able to.

This is not about centralization/decentralization IMO. It's about an open market or a closed market. It's much harder to produce (or keep) wealth in the latter. Some of the uneducated are beginning to realize what happened above their heads, and they aren't going to be happy about that.