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[Arriemoller]

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants"  

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?


Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.
    
26 states:
    Austria
    Belgium
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Latvia
    Liechtenstein
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Poland
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.

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[vroom]

ooh and I thought this thread is about bitcoin

[Wyld]

I suppose crime statistics and welfare burden statistics are racist too? Amazing how any fact you don't like is racist.

[bitcoinPsycho]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

  Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

[the_eu_guy]

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants"  

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?


Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.
    
26 states:
    Austria
    Belgium
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Latvia
    Liechtenstein
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Poland
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.

I am a citizen from one of the schengen state, i can and i have stay in Switzerland, German, Greece, Finland(which its quite boring at there) each more than 6 months up to almost two years without being required anything. i am a trust fund baby and the goal is just to enjoy the nice view and different life around the world so i don't work nor study at those places.

[Ludwig Von]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

  Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

One thing I hope we all agree on : the US urgently needs inflow of intelligent folks... .

[practicaldreamer]

There was a famous IQ test in the states that was used by the military to decide (prior to a war - I forget which one) who was officer material and who was to be cannon fodder. Many taking the test were recent immigrants. One of the questions was a picture of people playing tennis on a court with no net. You were meant to spot the missing net.
Where could this possibly go wrong ?

The more you think about it the more difficult it becomes to formulate a test that isn't culturally biased to some extent. Of course, when you are the one doing the formulating this is not always immediately apparent.

[Ibian]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias.

Gonna have to elaborate on that one.

[Ibian]

ooh and I thought this thread is about bitcoin

A common mistake

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Hi, BitPay cardholders,

Our prepaid card program issuer Wave Crest Holdings Limited recently announced that it will no longer be issuing or maintaining Visa® Prepaid Cards outside of the territory of Europe.

This unfortunately means that the BitPay Card will no longer be available or usable outside of the countries in the European territory. Existing BitPay Cards and other Visa Prepaid Cards registered to cardholders outside of the territory of Europe will be closed as of 15 October, 2017.

NUTS

You Europeans get all the luck, lolling about with your BitPay cards and your dreams.

Can anybody in the New World recommend a decent alternative?

[the_eu_guy]

I can lay in bed in the hotel of Zermatt and enjoy the mountain view or go ski for 6 months and walk along the Geneva lake for the next half year. no visa/id/paper asked.

[Arriemoller]

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

can you even post without telling complete bullcrab? within the EU (schengen treaty) everyone can live and work where he wants.

What is wrong with you? Yes you can stay if you work or study or have a partner there that provides for you, and some additional rules in different countries otherwise you have to leave after three months.
https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/39201/length-of-stay-as-tourist-in-another-european-country-as-schengen-eu-eea-citize

[Ibian]

There was a famous IQ test in the states that was used by the military to decide (prior to a war - I forget which one) who was officer material and who was to be cannon fodder. Many taking the test were recent immigrants. One of the questions was a picture of people playing tennis on a court with no net. You were meant to spot the missing net.
Where could this possibly go wrong ?

The more you think about it the more difficult it becomes to formulate a test that isn't culturally biased to some extent. Of course, when you are the one doing the formulating this is not always immediately apparent.

The military still does iq tests. Useful ones now. And on that note, it is illegal to let someone into the military if they have an iq below 83. There is simply no task suitable for someone that dumb. And that's the military, full of simple and repetitive jobs. Imagine how well those people do in normal society.

[Torque]

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100. Or maybe 110 tops.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

can you even post without telling complete bullcrab? within the EU (schengen treaty) everyone can live and work where he wants.

What is wrong with you? Yes you can stay if you work or study or have a partner there that provides for you, and some additional rules in different countries otherwise you have to leave after three months.
https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/39201/length-of-stay-as-tourist-in-another-european-country-as-schengen-eu-eea-citize

Germany You are required to report your non-tourist stay within around one week after arrival at the local Meldebehörde. The exact details vary by state and can normally be found on the cities' website.

Don't like the sound of that.

[Ibian]

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

It's not that iq equals wealth, obviously anyone can luck into a rich dad. It's that iq equals the ability to generate wealth, on average. Which is why the jews own the banks and by extension the west, highest iq group in the world.

[Arriemoller]

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Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.
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I am a citizen from one of the schengen state, i can and i have stay in Switzerland, German, Greece, Finland(which its quite boring at there) each more than 6 months up to almost two years without being required anything. i am a trust fund baby and the goal is just to enjoy the nice view and different life around the world so i don't work nor study at those places.
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Damnation, I cant get those quote thingis right.

Yeaa you can stay because nobody ever Checks, but as a tourist from another EU country you are only aloud to stay för 90 days formally.

[practicaldreamer]

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Jamie Dimon.

Very wealthy etc.

Does not have a fuckin clue about bitcoin.

Either that, or he does have a clue about bitcoin, and its because he does that he perceives the risk.

Personally I'd say the bloke hasn't got his head around bitcoin at all.

He's not the only one. Seems to be a slew of the sceptics at the minute. Supposedly clever people some of them as well.

[Ibian]

Don't humor an obvious troll account, come on man. Just ignore it.

[Ibian]

I'm not sure I understand the fallacy of high IQ == successful

I bet if you did a survey test of the top 1% or even 0.1% of earners in the world, you'd find that the average IQ was at or below 100.

If anything, evil elite narcissist == successful

Jamie Dimon.

Very wealthy etc.

Does not have a fuckin clue about bitcoin.

Either that, or he does have a clue about bitcoin, and its because he does that he perceives the risk.

Personally I'd say the bloke hasn't got his head around bitcoin at all.

He's not the only one. Seems to be a slew of the sceptics at the minute. Supposedly clever people some of them as well.

You have to understand computers on at least some basic level to really get it and most people just don't. That's why tech supports still ask if it is plugged in.