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[the_eu_guy]

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants"  

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?


Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.
    
26 states:
    Austria
    Belgium
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Latvia
    Liechtenstein
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Poland
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

[fluidjax]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

[Torque]

And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

This is what I meant with my comment. What good are borders when their govts collude, their companies, banks and the central banksters collude, one centrally controlled monetary system and currency, everything is unified, centrally planned and controlled under one order? Countries lose their identity and meaning, and their citizens have no way to protect/defend themselves culturally, financially or militarily. Everyone and everything is homogenized. Who then gives a shite over which border you decide to "live"? It's one unified cage you get to live in.

New World Order.

Maybe some are ok with that type of Orwellian society. I'm not.

Eh... who am I kidding though. It's not like the U.S. isn't centrally planned and controlled too. The citizens just don't know it yet, and remain living in complete denial. Many here believe we still have a "Democracy". Sigh..

[Ibian]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

[practicaldreamer]

Some of my best friends are as thick as pig shit  

The guy going on about Afghans having lower IQ etc is a racist imperialist knob. Next he'll be saying we are doing them a favour by occupying their country - we are teaching them civility, bringing them culture etc.

Nothing to do with Afghanistans strategic geo-political importance of course  

There's nothing quite like blaming the victim to guarantee a good nights sleep.

[practicaldreamer]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

[Ibian]

Some of my best friends are as thick as pig shit  

The guy going on about Afghans having lower IQ etc is a racist imperialist knob. Next he'll be saying we are doing them a favour by occupying their country - we are teaching them civility, bringing them culture etc.

Nothing to do with Afghanistans strategic geo-political importance of course  

There's nothing quite like blaming the victim to guarantee a good nights sleep.

You make a lot of assumptions.

[Ibian]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

No. Patterns. Little drawings of colored squares.

How many of the people pretending that iq tests are culturally biased have ever actually taken one? It's very straightforward how they work.

[Arriemoller]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

No. it's not, people from lower IQ areas  that grow up and are educated in the west still have lower IQ. If the whole IQ thing was western biased, then everybody brought up in the west should perform well on the tests regardless if ethnicity, but that is not the case. And that's just a fact, not racism. But if you use that fact do discriminate someone, then I might agree that that might be racism.

[fluidjax]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias.

[fluidjax]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

No. it's not, people from lower IQ areas  that grow up and are educated in the west still have lower IQ. If the whole IQ thing was western biased, then everybody brought up in the west should perform well on the tests regardless if ethnicity, but that is not the case. And that's just a fact, not racism. But if you use that fact do discriminate someone, then I might agree that that might be racism.

Stop talking shit and actually watch the program!

[600watt]

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

can you even post without telling complete bullcrab? within the EU (schengen treaty) everyone can live and work where he wants.

[Arriemoller]

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants"  

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?


Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.
    
26 states:
    Austria
    Belgium
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Latvia
    Liechtenstein
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Poland
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.

[vroom]

ooh and I thought this thread is about bitcoin

[Wyld]

I suppose crime statistics and welfare burden statistics are racist too? Amazing how any fact you don't like is racist.

[bitcoinPsycho]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

  Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

[the_eu_guy]

BTW, are you guys aware that almost all americans are european and asian "immigrants"  

OK, let´s stop this. lets stay polite to eachother.

Yes of course, but that is not the issue.

The issue is that the last time I checked, there is not a country in the world that you can go to, just cross the border, and say "I'm going to live here permanently now." It doesn't, and shouldn't ever work like that.

Ummmmm Have you heard about the European Union?


Edit: 3 years ago I finished my PhD, I crossed a border (by plane) and I said "I'm going to live here as long as I want."

It's not quite that easy, you can cross the border in the EU, but you can only stay in another country for three months unless you get a job or study. And it could be argued that the EU is a de facto country.

FUD.
If you are from one of the schengen area state, you can do whatever you want for as long as you like within the 26 schengen states without needing any extra ids or paper.
    
26 states:
    Austria
    Belgium
    Czech Republic
    Denmark
    Estonia
    Finland
    France
    Germany
    Greece
    Hungary
    Iceland
    Italy
    Latvia
    Liechtenstein
    Lithuania
    Luxembourg
    Malta
    Netherlands
    Norway
    Poland
    Portugal
    Slovakia
    Slovenia
    Spain
    Sweden
    Switzerland

Again, no, you can only stay for three months if you do not have a job or are studying.
There are a lot of misunderstandings about the Schengen agreement.

I am a citizen from one of the schengen state, i can and i have stay in Switzerland, German, Greece, Finland(which its quite boring at there) each more than 6 months up to almost two years without being required anything. i am a trust fund baby and the goal is just to enjoy the nice view and different life around the world so i don't work nor study at those places.

[Ludwig Von]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Give me the next in the sequence - fish, chips, mushy peas and.....

  Gravey... I prefer tomato sauce

One thing I hope we all agree on : the US urgently needs inflow of intelligent folks... .

[practicaldreamer]

There was a famous IQ test in the states that was used by the military to decide (prior to a war - I forget which one) who was officer material and who was to be cannon fodder. Many taking the test were recent immigrants. One of the questions was a picture of people playing tennis on a court with no net. You were meant to spot the missing net.
Where could this possibly go wrong ?

The more you think about it the more difficult it becomes to formulate a test that isn't culturally biased to some extent. Of course, when you are the one doing the formulating this is not always immediately apparent.

[Ibian]

It's neither racism nor bullshit, It's a well known fact that the IQ of the population of the world varies quite a bit. Even the BBC made a program about it, see for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JLH9OKMnbU

If you watch the program, you will see its far more complex than it first appears. , IQ tests are biased toward western inteligence & education,  and societies racism suppresses achievement in non-whites. So, basically it is racism and it is bullshit.

How precisely can pattern recognition be biased towards anyone?

Recognition is subjective, which makes it clearly vulnerable to bias.

Gonna have to elaborate on that one.