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Question: Jan. 31 Closing Price:
<$3,000 - 15 (15.3%)
$3,000-$3,200 - 2 (2%)
$3,200-$3,400 - 9 (9.2%)
$3,400-$3,600 - 12 (12.2%)
$3,600-$3,800 - 9 (9.2%)
$3,800-$4,000 - 7 (7.1%)
$4,000-$4,200 - 13 (13.3%)
$4,200-$4,400 - 5 (5.1%)
$4,400-$4,600 - 1 (1%)
$4,600-$4,800 - 4 (4.1%)
$4,800-$5,000 - 2 (2%)
>$5,000 - 19 (19.4%)
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November 03, 2017, 07:27:05 PM

My take on these different fork coins is as follows: Although 2 MB blocks is not bad, BCH is dysfunctional and since it does not work properly, it's useless.

BTG really has no future, the idea of going back to using GPU:s for mining is a nice idea and full of bitcoin nostalgia. But there is already a bunch of coins that you can mine using your GPU, and BTG has no upside in relation to  those coins.

SW2X on the other hand has both big blocks and Seg Wit, and that is in my opinion better than BTC:s SW1X. However, their attempt to kidnap the bitcoin name with a hardfork with no replay protection and their poor dev team makes the majority of users dislike them. That and the fact that people because of the high BTC price likes status quo will probably make them fail.


Very well said, Sir.
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November 03, 2017, 07:36:23 PM

I doubt that Bitcoin will become the One World Currency so that people won't have any other methods of payment.  

The point being that if you want to design a crytocurrency which people would want to spend, it actually has to have some kind of "demurrage" feature like Freicoin.  

It sounds as if you believe that Bitcoin _cannot_ become the default currency of the world _because_ it has a built-in incentive to hold. I have heard this position asserted several times, and I have never understood it.

I get that more spending means 'more jobs' (though only to a first-level approximation). However, one cannot eat Bitcoin. And one needs to eat. Regardless of the incentive to hold money, people still want to eat. And house themselves. And get from point A to point B. And...

Bottom line, all these require spending.

Yes, an economy dictated by a deflationary money would be radically different than the one we have today. But is this a bad thing? Being more frugal efficient with the Earth's resources may be a good idea.

And the machines are coming for our jobs anyhow. We are going to need to sort out how each human fits into an economy of abundance anyhow.



Boat.

It could buy me a truck to pull it
It could buy me a Yeti 110 iced down with some silver bullets
Yeah, and I know what they say,
Money can’t buy everything
Well, maybe so,
But it could buy me a boat



I see you bumbling imbeciles haff not yet completed vave 5.

Prost!



busted. edited my post

Prost!



Ending the Fed has been the goal from the beginning.

https://www.facebook.com/Kill-The-Fed-181798821860025/



Recovery phase of altcoins just started...., while bitcoin being kept within $7500.

In the wasteland of altcoins, hope springs eternal.



When it forks the value of the other will go down while the new one takes a bit away from

In theory. However, such has not seemed to have been borne out in practice.



Somebody knows how the hell S2X (futures) managed to get to 2k+?

Umm... it's a more capable version of S1X? Inherently more utility usually goes hand-in-hand with more concrete value.

Though it is interesting that it is hitting this, given each so-called 'futures market' I am familiar with includes an asymmetric advantage to the legacy choice.



Why the fuck are [Bitcoin Cashes] up so much ? The hell is up with that shit ?

I am surprised you find it necessary to ask this.

Cheers!

(I been tryin' ta tell ya)
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Jimbo and jbreher may well turn out to be the smartest guys among us.

XD

I simply believe that price follows value follows utility. And vote accordingly with my wallet.

S1X -- in comparison -- is lacking along several axes.

BCH is still on sale. Just sayin'



Do you agree that malleability is a "non problem",

Absolutely. I've yet to see a verifiable claim that malleability has resulted in actual loss. I mean, it is a possible vector, so I'm willing to grant that actual cases do exist. But avoiding loss by malleability is trivial with due diligence.

MtGox? Bitch, please. Proven to be nothing but a MagicalTux deflection smokescreen.

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are lighting solutions are really "patented"?

I don't know. I don't really care either. I don't mind letting innovative companies profit off 2nd-layer solutions, patented or not. What I mind is making base protocol changes to provide them with preferential incentives.

Further, Lightning whether or not centralized or corporate-owned contains security threats that on chain transactions do not possess. I'm fine with Lightning, as long as on-chain is accessible for reasonable valued transactions.

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And i can't even understand (but may be my problem) why he says that zero-conf is bad and "robbing bitcoin.

I've not read the letter as of yet (I'll get to it shortly). I'm guessing that your paraphrasing is slightly off? RBF is bad - it makes acceptance of zero-conf transactions inherently _very_ dangerous. While it is true that there is always some element of risk in accepting a zero-conf payment, it used to be a manageable risk (i.e., losses less than the cost of credit card processing - by far). However, in the era of full blocks, that business model was thrown out the window. Even without full blocks, accepting zero-conf payments is untenable in an RBF environment.

Might that be what the letter is trying to convey?



I guess Peter Todd didn't get the memo when he double spent coinbase's zero-conf, without RBF...

If you are looking for absolute guarantees, you're gonna have a bad time. The world just doesn't work that way.

I note publicly -- with no lack of irony -- that Coinbase is still a viable entity. Profitable even.



I think Bitcoin Cash will continue to gain steam up until the fork,

Funny. I expect BCH to fall against BTC up until just before the fork, and skyrocket thereafter.



Don't worry, it's not the miners that decide, it's the users.

Well, actually, everyone's opinion is factored in.

Do you think no miners are users?

Do you think all non-mining users are united behind S1X?



If you've ever used BCH ..

-There are virtually no nodes to sync - you connect to bitcoin-core of the BTC chain and you get disconnected all the time.

That is inconsistent with my experience. I've had no issues whatsoever in syncing. Which client have you used? Oh. No, I don't remember 0.14 being bad. I'm running 0.15.0.0-unk. Maybe give it another try?

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-Blocks can take hours.

While this is true, I am unaware of a single case of any transaction -- no matter the fee -- taking longer than two blocks to confirm. Certainly can't make that claim for segwit.

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BTC has just 4 mn coins to mine and that's it.

...aaaas opposed to the 4M coins Bitcoin Segwit Core has to go? I fail to see your point.



except the 2MB typo for BCH, 8, but otherwise spot on

Further, you realize that the 8MB 'limit' is merely a setting, right?
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https://www.hudson.org/research/13981-the-united-states-of-anonymity
trap or true?
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November 03, 2017, 08:29:55 PM

If you've ever used BCH you'd realize there's nothing to hedge. Personally speaking, it's one of the most problematic altcoins I've ever used - and the only one where its marketcap stood out as insane compared to its inherent qualities.

-There are virtually no nodes to sync - you connect to bitcoin-core of the BTC chain and you get disconnected all the time.
-Blocks can take hours.
-On top of that exchanges require several confirmations, compounding the delay problem.

Anyone taking BCH for a spin cannot reach any other conclusion than "this is so broken it's not even funny".

You mean a stable, flawlessly working, decentralized, secure version of the Bitcoin network that everyone is happy with (i.e., BitcoinTM) is attempting to be subverted and attacked by another version (BCH) that sucks on so many levels it is nearly unusable, and people actually still want to debate which one is "better"?

Funny how Roger Ver et al continues to try and gaslight people into believing that a nearly unusable trainwreck of a fork is somehow "better" than Bitcoin. Yeah, when Satoshi designed Bitcoin he was definitely thinking "It should be slow, flaky, >95% mining centralized, hashrate all over the place, blocks that take hours, no merchant support, no broker support, cannot be purchased directly, >50% of all trading on one shady Korean exchange, etc. etc."

There is no way the BCH camp can in any way, shape, or form spin BCH into anything positive. It sucks badly and it should die a slow, painful death. There are literally shit altcoins that are way better in function than BCH.
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November 03, 2017, 08:38:15 PM

Here's a better version of the "Occupy the Moon" image, where the (BTC) logo is spherically distorted, to match the surface of the Moon.

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Here's a better version of the "Occupy the Moon" image, where the (BTC) logo is spherically distorted, to match the surface of the Moon.




 Cool

weeee

BTCBTC

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November 03, 2017, 08:59:54 PM

True bitcoiners are not in it for the money, but for the principle
Bullshit. It's both. Principles with no money are impotent, and money with no direction soon leads to not having much money at all, or death.

I dumped all my bitcointrash on day 1 and won't regret it even if they go to 1 million each.
Of course you will. Admitting it is another matter.
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November 03, 2017, 09:01:52 PM

TORQUE!!!

<bro fist> Sorry, was away for awhile tending to some things.  Smiley

Btw this is unrelated to my going dark, but for years I had heard the rumors of certain Legendary users being approached by other anonymous users with offers to sell their accounts to them. And even rumors that some had taken them up on it.

Well... it's now happened to me too. "Name your price", he said. I find it all amusing. Just know that I am a person of integrity and would never do something like that, no matter what the offer was. Anyone who wants to buy your account intends to impersonate you and do bad things with it.  No thanks.
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November 03, 2017, 09:06:44 PM

TORQUE!!!

<bro fist> Sorry, was away for awhile tending to some things.  Smiley

Btw this is unrelated to my going dark, but for years I had heard the rumors of certain Legendary users being approached by other anonymous users with offers to sell their accounts to them. And even rumors that some had taken them up on it.

Well... it's now happened to me too. "Name your price", he said. I find it all amusing. Just know that I am a person of integrity and would never do something like that, no matter what the offer was. Anyone who wants to buy your account intends to impersonate you and do bad things with it.  No thanks.

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Search in the ZH archive, it appears to be true. There are some interesting articles, stories... .
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TORQUE!!!

<bro fist> Sorry, was away for awhile tending to some things.  Smiley

Btw this is unrelated to my going dark, but for years I had heard the rumors of certain Legendary users being approached by other anonymous users with offers to sell their accounts to them. And even rumors that some had taken them up on it.

Well... it's now happened to me too. "Name your price", he said. I find it all amusing. Just know that I am a person of integrity and would never do something like that, no matter what the offer was. Anyone who wants to buy your account intends to impersonate you and do bad things with it.  No thanks.
How much do accounts like ours go for, anyway? Surely he has a max price in mind.
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How much do accounts like ours go for, anyway? Surely he has a max price in mind.

I dunno, his PM just said "Name your price." I didn't reply, and don't plan to.
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Further, you realize that the 8MB 'limit' is merely a setting, right?

yeah, so y'all flip a bit and all of a sudden I'm building an addition on my house to house the 19" racks to store a 1GB block every 10 minutes...hell, that's only 52.56PB a year, what could possibly go wrong?
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November 03, 2017, 09:39:50 PM

How much do accounts like ours go for, anyway? Surely he has a max price in mind.

I dunno, his PM just said "Name your price." I didn't reply, and don't plan to.

Torque is not a hooker  Smiley
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November 03, 2017, 09:45:50 PM

TORQUE!!!

<bro fist> Sorry, was away for awhile tending to some things.  Smiley

Btw this is unrelated to my going dark, but for years I had heard the rumors of certain Legendary users being approached by other anonymous users with offers to sell their accounts to them. And even rumors that some had taken them up on it.

Well... it's now happened to me too. "Name your price", he said. I find it all amusing. Just know that I am a person of integrity and would never do something like that, no matter what the offer was. Anyone who wants to buy your account intends to impersonate you and do bad things with it.  No thanks.

I really don't know why I got so worried.  I fully expect that you are well able to fend for yourself, so I apologize for having any doubts.

The $5 wrench has been looming ever larger in my thoughts as the sums involved become ever more motivating.

I think it may be near time for some of us to reevaluate our personal security arrangements.
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How much do accounts like ours go for, anyway? Surely he has a max price in mind.

I dunno, his PM just said "Name your price." I didn't reply, and don't plan to.

Torque is not a hooker  Smiley
Guy wanted to buy him, not rent him.
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Further, you realize that the 8MB 'limit' is merely a setting, right?

yeah, so y'all flip a bit and all of a sudden I'm building an addition on my house to house the 19" racks to store a 1GB block every 10 minutes...hell, that's only 52.56PB a year, what could possibly go wrong?

That's 52.56 TB, not PB, and it's not that large, considering the advances in technology. Currently it's only six 10 TB HDDs. Soon it will be just a single (and relatively cheap) HDD.
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November 03, 2017, 09:51:21 PM

ooooh, my bad, yeah 52,560GB

still, I'm not at all sure what my connectivity provider is going to say about 6GB/hour

and god forbid you get a corrupted sync and have to redownload, takes me like 3 days now
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TORQUE!!!

<bro fist> Sorry, was away for awhile tending to some things.  Smiley

Btw this is unrelated to my going dark, but for years I had heard the rumors of certain Legendary users being approached by other anonymous users with offers to sell their accounts to them. And even rumors that some had taken them up on it.

Well... it's now happened to me too. "Name your price", he said. I find it all amusing. Just know that I am a person of integrity and would never do something like that, no matter what the offer was. Anyone who wants to buy your account intends to impersonate you and do bad things with it.  No thanks.

I really don't know why I got so worried.  I fully expect that you are well able to fend for yourself, so I apologize for having any doubts.

The $5 wrench has been looming ever larger in my thoughts as the sums involved become ever more motivating.

I think it may be near time for some of us to reevaluate our personal security arrangements.
Money is really not as dangerous as a lot of people think.
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Trouble is if your account is hacked you need to come back as a newbie. I am one of many even though i could prove ownership of my original account through bitcoin signing the admins didn’t even rrspond once to my many inquiries.

That is troubling. Had you previously registered a Bitcoin addy with your profile, from which you could sign a statement? And if so, did the mods just ignore ?

Yep. Not a peep from Theymos or Cyrus.
This was the link I sent to them
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg21177226#msg21177226
And the message I sent them was signed with the same BTC address.
Go figure?

welcome to the club.. i´m another ignored hacked account, ex-hero member

ditto.

hacked legendary - edgar account

verified and ignored by both theymos & cyrus.

twice.

the hacker/new owner wants paying upfront to return it but i cant risk losing more money over a pretty much pointless account.

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