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November 11, 2017, 12:34:55 PM

I think this is just a bit of a FUD phase. I feel sort of safe knowing that people are panicking even though the price has only dropped from 7300 to 6400
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As Rosewater Foundation said, BCH is approaching a fork. It is broken at the protocol level: without a malleability fix, second and third layer solutions are very hard (near impossible) to implement soundly. Of course, the fees are lower, hur hur. With larger blocks and low usage, they must. Besides, BCH never suffered a single spam attack. But medium term? The only practical use of BCH, apart from trading, is buying Chinese mining equipment. What kind of future can such an altcoin have?

They can pump and dump all they want, I still have an optimistic view of the near future.
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November 11, 2017, 12:35:01 PM

Dip probably news related.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-treasury-department-investigates-illegal-uses-of-bitcoin
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November 11, 2017, 12:36:04 PM

Kraken BTC trading at 5212€ @ ~6100$
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November 11, 2017, 12:38:28 PM


Bitcoin used for "unlawful purposes" ??
Say it ain't so!!
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November 11, 2017, 12:41:42 PM

every day there is a new drama.. don't worry too much guys, there is only one bitcoin.
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November 11, 2017, 12:43:22 PM

every day there is a new drama.. don't worry too much guys, there is only one bitcoin.

And a gazillion clones.....
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November 11, 2017, 12:45:23 PM
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People are spamming the mempool with 1300 satoshi/byte tx, i.e. paying 3~5 mbtc per 225 byte standard tx, and most go to fee with only dust remaining, to lock up the tx in mempool during this BCH pump.  But BTC+BCH is actually getting lower and lower in total, meaning someone is killing that golden goose that had just kept on giving so far.

Maybe the cartel will do a flippening of ETH by BCH just for lolz.  But if some insiders can flippen BCH vs ETH in marketcap just like this, then it's actually really bearish for the entire crypto world.  Because imagine what would happen when the real professional pumpers, i.e. Wall Street banksters, come on the scene.
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November 11, 2017, 12:46:04 PM

How many more days do you think BCH is keeping the peak??
Today 11/11/2017: 37.53% in 7 days, $1124.
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November 11, 2017, 12:53:29 PM

this is bollocks anyone who bought BTC after the bch fork will be so disillusioned . I sold mine at .2  so I'm pissed to lol
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November 11, 2017, 01:10:33 PM

good opportunity to buy more. i dont know where the bottom will be so i'm buying 0.05 at every $300 drop Grin
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November 11, 2017, 01:15:21 PM

meanwhile the spam attacks continue, 100k unconfirmed tx, and jihad is tweeting about peace. fkn two faced devil
http://www.trustnodes.com/2017/11/09/can-now-accelerate-stuck-bitcoin-transaction-paying-bitcoin-cash

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fees are running at around $5

Last time I paid 170k satoshis to send 0.17 to Bittrex.

Bitcoin's value at the time was around $7k, hence the fees were around $12, not $5.
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November 11, 2017, 01:16:27 PM

good opportunity to buy more. i dont know where the bottom will be so i'm buying 0.05 at every $300 drop Grin

I told you so  Wink But I will wait a little longer, untill the situation with Btrash is more clear. (We ain 't seen nothing yet IMHO)
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November 11, 2017, 01:17:12 PM

good opportunity to buy more. i dont know where the bottom will be so i'm buying 0.05 at every $300 drop Grin

JJ will be proud of you...
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November 11, 2017, 01:24:31 PM

Your posts are always well reasoned, tought-provoking and informative, LewisPirenne. I am interested in your opinion.

People are spamming the mempool with 1300 satoshi/byte tx, i.e. paying 3~5 mbtc per 225 byte standard tx, and most go to fee with only dust remaining, to lock up the tx in mempool during this BCH pump.  But BTC+BCH is actually getting lower and lower in total, meaning someone is killing that golden goose that had just kept on giving so far.

Maybe the cartel will do a flippening on ETH just for lolz.  But if some insiders can flippen ETH in marketcap just like this, then it's actually really bearish for the entire crypto world.  Because imagine what would happen when the real professional pumpers, i.e. Wall Street banksters, come on the scene.
I don't understand very well. In your opinion, does this bearish outlook get triggered only if there is an ETH flippening during the BCH fork scope?

My gut feeling (not well thought out) is that of a simple cartel maneuver to pump BCH. The S2X might or might not have been just a diversion - I haven't figured out yet. Also, the nonzero value of S2X futures isn't clear to me. An explanation in this thread (Marcus or Torque? Can't remember) said it's the premium for early redemption of... of what? How does that fact fill in your understanding of the current situation?
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November 11, 2017, 01:27:37 PM

Do you guys see BCH a treat for BTC? BCH is now $1200+, BTC took years to reach that kind of level
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November 11, 2017, 01:30:32 PM

i dont see threat from BCH at all. This is just huge pump to lure sheep money into it
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November 11, 2017, 01:31:09 PM

Bitcoin Crash fast becoming Bitcoin Smash!...
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November 11, 2017, 01:32:00 PM

Do you guys see BCH a treat for BTC? BCH is now $1200+, BTC took years to reach that kind of level

Ahem..  Just sayin' - but BTC was less than that a year ago.  Don't get me wrong, I am BTC through and through, but....
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November 11, 2017, 01:33:07 PM

This reminds me when Ver pumped Zcash in Poloniex to 3 200BTC and then booom!!! Back to 0.5BTC. So many people lost their money, never to get them back! Now the same is going to happen with BCH. The bigger the pump, the deeper the dump  Cool
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November 11, 2017, 01:34:57 PM
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Your posts are always well reasoned, tought-provoking and informative, LewisPirenne. I am interested in your opinion.

I don't understand very well. In your opinion, does this bearish outlook get triggered only if there is an ETH flippening during the BCH fork scope?

My gut feeling (not well thought out) is that of a simple cartel maneuver to pump BCH. The S2X might or might not have been just a diversion - I haven't figured out yet. Also, the nonzero value of S2X futures isn't clear to me. An explanation in this thread (Marcus or Torque? Can't remember) said it's the premium for early redemption of... of what? How does that fact fill in your understanding of the current situation?

Sorry, I should have been more clear about what I am saying.  

There is a joke from yesterday that the cartel is going to do a marketcap flippening of BCH to replace ETH as the 2nd largest coin in marketcap, i.e. around $25~30 billion.  But of course, it all depends on the cross rate and BTC market cap.  So if BTC keeps going down and dragging down ETH too, the flippening of BCH against ETH is made easier.  But naturally, that would be bearish as heck, since the coins that are doing all the real work and innovation, i.e. BTC and ETH, actually get over taken by some cartel of pumpers and miners.  That would disillusion a lot of people in the crypto space.
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