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September 25, 2018, 06:25:06 PM

Just saw this one , A real equity curve explained:

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I wouldn’t know ,ain’t NO trader (mostly not) BUT hodling is also no straight line of smileys  Roll Eyes
Just need to understand that the only way up Will always be bumpy Grin

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September 25, 2018, 06:27:54 PM

Just saw this one , A real equity curve explained:

via Imgflip Meme Generator

I wouldn’t know ,ain’t NO trader (mostly not) BUT hodling is also no straight line of smileys  Roll Eyes
Just need to understand that the only way up Will always be bumpy Grin



I think the trading side should be with way bigger ups and downs, that looks like a fun rollercoaster Tongue But yeah, hodling is easier, tried trading myself for some time and gave it up, takes too much time and it's frustrating as well Cheesy
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Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

 Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest.  The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018.  Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!".

  I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!




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September 25, 2018, 06:58:22 PM

Hm?  So this makes the core developers less godly and more human, I suppose?  And, in your view, elevates the prestige of bcash developers?

No and no. The Core devs are just as human as they ever were. But perhaps the hubris of their acolytes may have been knocked down an appropriate peg or two.


(well, a person could hope...)

There is nothing wrong with real life situation causing more humbleness,

A bigger or wiser person would not wait until life kicks them in the teeth to admit that perhaps they don't have all the answers. Especially when such claims of omniscience require the belittling of others, without bothering to understand their concerns.
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Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

 Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest.  The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018.  Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!".

  I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

One thing about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile. Cheesy
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September 25, 2018, 07:06:43 PM
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November the 5th is when they start trading. Get ready for the new bull run.



I think this could be a game changer. But I pray that they don't down the road change the rules and corrupt this.

In theory, by holding clients' bitcoin accounts for them directly, they can fractional reserve the bitcoin they hold, have re-hypothecation, etc. Even phantom shares of bitcoin. So hoping it doesn't go that way.

Bakkt is one of those ''First-Movers'' opportunity. It will be a financial powerhouse, doing business national ore international will save time and money for all party's. If they don't watch out they might be replaced with decentralised platforms later on.

They can build a lot of applications on it and like you said it can be abused.

http://fortune.com/longform/nyse-owner-bitcoin-exchange-startup/
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September 25, 2018, 07:10:56 PM

ed the press conference press and it was very epic, finally McGregor really good rival



So weird everytime I talk to a specific chick the next day I see or hear a referance to something we just talked about.

Case in point we discussed Cauliflower ears yesterday.

God this thread gets weird when the price is flat.  I almost unblocked gembitz for luls...  Not that bad yet.  If its 6XXX in February maybe.

Hah, I just ublocked someone, first time in months. I don't think it will last. Smiley


Fucker needs to be sued by the creditors for using their assets to attack their assets worth when they requested their assets back and not worthless fiat which they never wanted as proof that they used worthless fiat to procure their stolen assets. Smiley

Guys, I made the coolest purchase for BTC. I bought a dog.Today I took it from the nursery. This Siberian Husky and her 1.5 months

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Totally worth it!





Both very good fighters  Grin
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September 25, 2018, 07:12:53 PM

Hey guys what are the known places to invest your earnings to generate more earnings?

Bookstores, other stores of knowledge, and any technology that lets you accomplish more in less time.
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September 25, 2018, 07:20:31 PM

November the 5th is when they start trading. Get ready for the new bull run.



I think this could be a game changer. But I pray that they don't down the road change the rules and corrupt this.

In theory, by holding clients' bitcoin accounts for them directly, they can fractional reserve the bitcoin they hold, have re-hypothecation, etc. Even phantom shares of bitcoin. So hoping it doesn't go that way.
One thing that could help would be to make "bank runs" (moving physical bitcoin out of customer accounts) an easy, quick, hassle-free activity by design (in Bakkt internal rules) and by law (file under "investor protection", which apparently the SEC really, really cares for).

Bakkt is one of those ''First-Movers'' opportunity. It will be a financial powerhouse, doing business national ore international will save time and money for all party's. If they don't watch out they might be replaced with decentralised platforms later on.
Indeed. I hope this could make them wise up before attempting swindles or dodgy rules. However, I am quite jaded about this, especially since from what I've understood until now, Bakkt's intended customers are mostly institutional investors and other big money kind of actors. These are unlikely to trust - or likely unable to use - real faceless decentralized platforms.
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September 25, 2018, 07:41:53 PM

After all, one of the narratives is that BCH is not supposed to be used for a store of value;

Whose narrative is that? I don't recall that position ever being advocated by anyone of note.

Ability to be used as a medium of exchange (MoE) certainly does not preclude ability to be used as a store of value (SoV). Indeed, there is significant evidence that MoE is necessary for any commodity to become a SoV. And a reasonable theory that any commodity that loses its MoE will therefore lose its ability to be a SoV. Which bodes poorly for BTC, unless the LN grows quickly by several orders of magnitude.

I don't know shit about BCH but it is a simple inheritance thing isn't it? Bitcoins original vision was not to be a store of value but a currency. BCH shills have been screaming since day one they will stick to that vision. So yeah there is that. don't get yourself caught in any circular logic trap here.

Who has caught themselves in a circular logic trap?

To be a money, a thing needs to be SoV and MoA MoE. BCH aspires to be a money. MoA MoE does not imply NOT SoV.

A does not imply NOT B.

There's your logic.

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September 25, 2018, 07:48:08 PM


One think about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile. Cheesy

Word that man.  I am fortunately childless by choice, and once you have housing and kibble figured out "fuck you money" becomes a very manageable figure.
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Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

 Yeah, nocoiners don't understand hodl in the slightest.  The ones telling me to sell at $1.1k in 2013 were giving me the same advice at $19k in 2018.  Even after I brought to their attention it was the same advice they gave me 1600% ago, they persisted - "just sell half of them!".

  I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

One think about work is that it is so much less stressful when you know you can say "fuck off and die cocksucker" anytime you want and just walk away with a smile. Cheesy

Life is funny. I genuinely _liked_ my job. Can't say I miss it, though.
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Either way it’s frustrating atm sitting on what most people would call a lot of money but myself, knowing I can’t spend it YET because it’s not enough to live on forever.

My nocoiner friends think I am absolutely daft not having sold for whatever, to them quite impressive, fiat sum I might have got near the top.

People lack imagination, generally, and work isn't so bad.  A bit of structure in ones life helps keep the really serious alcoholism in check.

depends on the JOB i did see WORK leading into serious alcoholism .... but its probably more a problem of the weaker human that can't handle shit , and absolutly shouldn't be involved in crypto and hodling......   Roll Eyes   the real wageslaves ain't in order to be stronghand hodlers
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Where is bitcoin in your post?  Are you saying that bitcoin does not have privacy or plans for privacy?  Are we referring to a work in progress or a spectrum rather than all or nothing?  What is the point of your post, in this bitcoin thread?  Discuss.   Roll Eyes Tongue

Correct. There is no privacy in your little play-money (or these other 'coins'). Yes, Samourai and Wasabi wallets are messing around with Coinjoin. Yes, those devs think that will make it all fungible. No, it doesn't work, but it's nice to pretend, huh?
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September 25, 2018, 08:25:46 PM

 I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

Jesus, are you an employee or a slave?
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September 25, 2018, 08:51:11 PM

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 I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

Jesus, are you an employee or a slave?
Is there a difference? Tongue Apart from the fact an employee can choose his master(s).
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 I have to disagree w.r.t. "work isn't so bad" though... they've really cut back on the numbers of people and expect even more work from the remainder of us.  Also, taking time off was never an issue in the past but in the last 3 years it's very difficult.  We have extended blackout periods on vacation that creep into July and the talk is that next year it will be into early August - it's enough to drive one to really serious alcoholism.  I know... waaa!

Jesus, are you an employee or a slave?

 I don't know anymore.  I got a letter last summer informing me I had to work on a specific day (one of my days off) under threat of discipline - up to and including termination (I think they meant termination of employment but I didn't want to risk the alternative)
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September 25, 2018, 09:13:00 PM

I don't know anymore.  I got a letter last summer informing me I had to work on a specific day (one of my days off) under threat of discipline - up to and including termination (I think they meant termination of employment but I didn't want to risk the alternative)
Well if you're in the army then yes, termination does take on another meeting. But remember the words of Bob Dobbs:

The worst thing that happens if they fire you
Is you get a better job....
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September 25, 2018, 09:14:28 PM

Is there a difference? Tongue Apart from the fact an employee can choose his master(s).
My father once told me that slavery is the most stupid concept ever and to never own slaves.

Reason: Why own an asset when you can lease it....
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