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[LFC_Bitcoin]

What do you guys think, 4k still possible or are we glued to 5k?

I think we’re PROBABLY past the worst of it. Panicking noobs will stop selling now that they realise bitcoin isn’t going to die. BCH HODLERS are going to get their free forked coin, presumably some of that will get converted into bitcoin? I presume some of us (bitcoin’ers) would have bought BCH pre fork so they got their shit forked coin for the sole purpose of converting back into bitcoin.

I’m only guessing but I hope we’ve seen the worst.

@Kylapoiss - I only drink on weekends really. I am a binge drinker though. I do drugs more often than drink, I possibly should stop doing them as much but I do enjoy myself.

Good luck staying sobsr though man, you can do it. Stay strong brother.

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[Kylapoiss]

@Kylapoiss
GL on staying sober and going for your goal (i'm not an alcoholic myself but occasionally in the weekend a do like good wines with dinner etc)
during a serious pump or DUMP i also like it but just keeping it in the weekend or special days (@holliday its just ugly but F*** thats why its holiday)

^nice man, could use the hot tub as well

goldkingcoiner WHAT if i told you after 5k we gonna be glued @50K for a while ......

i could accept that

Nah I don't have that big of a problem with it, more like a test of will power. And plans to get in killer shape for next summer, never had such a good starting point like atm. I will miss the occasional beers though.

[JayJuanGee]

It is interesting how close to a BTC difficulty change the BCH fork and hash battle is occurring however. Provocative.

Yes.  What a coincidence.  Go figure.

[goldkingcoiner]

@Kylapoiss
GL on staying sober and going for your goal (i'm not an alcoholic myself but occasionally in the weekend a do like good wines with dinner etc)
during a serious pump or DUMP i also like it but just keeping it in the weekend or special days (@holliday its just ugly but F*** thats why its holiday)

^nice man, could use the hot tub as well

goldkingcoiner WHAT if i told you after 5k we gonna be glued @50K for a while ......

i could accept that

Nah I don't have that big of a problem with it, more like a test of will power. And plans to get in killer shape for next summer, never had such a good starting point like atm. I will miss the occasional beers though.

getting in shape is harder than hodling.

[Kylapoiss]

What do you guys think, 4k still possible or are we glued to 5k?

I think we’re PROBABLY past the worst of it. Panicking noobs will stop selling now that they realise bitcoin isn’t going to die. BCH HODLERS are going to get their free forked coin, presumably some of that will get converted into bitcoin? I presume some of us (bitcoin’ers) would have bought BCH pre fork so they got their shit forked coin for the sole purpose of converting back into bitcoin.

I’m only guessing but I hope we’ve seen the worst.

@Kylapoiss - I only drink on weekends really. I am a binge drinker though. I do drugs more often than drink, I possibly should stop doing them as much but I do enjoy myself.

Good luck staying sobsr though man, you can do it. Stay strong brother.

If you feel you need it, then you need it, just don't go over the line (sniff the lines). Who doesn't enjoy 'em

Thanks for the support brother!

[Kylapoiss]

getting in shape is harder than hodling.

Can't argue with that. Started this year with a fat% of 21, got it down to 11.5% in summer, now it's around 14%. Under 10% for next summer with a proper diet and exercise plan, then I can go to the beach and rip the shirt off, people cheering. 

[JayJuanGee]

What the fuck you talking about?  I did a quick glance at your post history, and it appears that you just discovered bitcoin recently.  You have a lot of alt coin distractions and bullshit in your history... so you  may have only recently become awaken to bitcoin, perhaps?   

Part of my point is that you can likely glance through my post history and realize that I am not an AI program.. .so your assertion seems both contrary to the posting evidence my own history, and perhaps your own inabilities to grasp certain kinds of content - hence your failure/refusal to read content and your proclamation that you are wiser because you don't read content while asserting that the content is not meaningful because you chose not to read it..  Get real, Hueristic.

Or should I say, Get a grip, Hueristic?

Not wise, my biggest mistake in life was not switching over 2 of the 6 systems I had crunching F@H on bitcoins launch like I had planned, and yes I've known about it since then.

Well, you should have at least figured out the essence of my post, which is to question how you supposedly have some kind of credibility to assert that I am an AI (artificial intelligence) when you neither have evidence nor logic to support it, and you seem to have plenty of your own issues (I pointed out the alt coin distraction issues, to suggest that it seemed to have taken you a long fucking time even to come over to the bitcoin love camp, and perhaps I am even questioning your bitcoin understanding and/or loyalties to some extent in that regard, based on your post history.. ).

[d_eddie]

Hey guys what's this sideways talk about sobering up and getting back into shape?

We are tanking. No, we are maybe reverse barting. No, well, but either bcash ABC or bcash fakoshi are going to the dogs. Or both. I mean, what's wrong with you? Get back to serious stuff. Post bottoms, or whatever!  

[JayJuanGee]

yep.....looks like Craig Wright has gotten his way and will soon be in control of Bitcoin Cash after taking over more than 51% of the BCH network.

Absolute fucking lulz.

I have to imagine Roger Ver is literally in tears at this moment.

Babies are dying, etc...

Unless he really has BTC1MM (or whatever will be left after fighting ABC) and is actually insane enough to believe he can take on BTC i really don't see his end game. So Bitmain will unload their 1MM in bcashSV to him, and if we to believe that he already has 1MM in bcashSV that'll put him at over 2MM+ in bcashSV. A shitcoin with even less support than bcash and a ton of enemies WTF is he planning on doing with that?

His view is quite obv imo:

He builds a better product than the rest and therefore generates demand. If Reddit, Twitter or Bitcointalk like him or not won't be decisive for success or not.

Now you can obv disagree if the markets will agree with him or not or if he really will have a better product but you asked for his "plan" and here you go, that's his plan. 

Step 1 pretend Satoshi, Step 2 buy big into fork while cheap step 3 use some of the personal funds to intimidate during fork, Step 4 control shitcoin and pretend it's new Bitcoin Step 5 be richer than at step 1

 For faketoshi, I think it just comes down to this -

The dude does allegedly have a colossal fuckton of coinage is the only thing that really scares me, if it is some power trip and he has more Bitcoin than what he knows what do with it could be an issue. Especially if he is fine with exchanging it and spending it but not cashing out due to tax and tracking reasons.

If his going to do a power trip he should have done it when bitcoin price was on the high 19k, but the fact that his in control with such large amount is a bit scary.

Stupid-ass drama and its creation is not going to play as well when the price is fomo-ing up, and has a kind of better negative affect when prices are down... so if there is a desire for an affect (and attention), then seems like decent timing to be playing some of the drama in times like these...

[Kylapoiss]

Hey guys what's this sideways talk about sobering up and getting back into shape?

We are tanking. No, we are maybe reverse barting. No, well, but either bcash ABC or bcash fakoshi are going to the dogs. Or both. I mean, what's wrong with you? Get back to serious stuff. Post bottoms, or whatever!  

I humbly apologise.

A repost from me, but still my favourite bottom.

[El duderino_]

Hey guys what's this sideways talk about sobering up and getting back into shape?

We are tanking. No, we are maybe reverse barting. No, well, but either bcash ABC or bcash fakoshi are going to the dogs. Or both. I mean, what's wrong with you? Get back to serious stuff. Post bottoms, or whatever!  

Sorry man .... it was a bit if WObrotheringUP or something i guess

But hope the both just go to the dogs (trashhole) where they should be

[ssmc2]

THE bottom is definitely not in yet

[Biro Bob]

I think, when these guys get to a certain level of super rich, they start getting into the really "good" drugs.

The delusions of grandeur serve them...for a while...and then they just totally lose it.

So CSW has singlehandedly hacked all privacy coins of note, mmmmmmmkay Craig, isn't it time for your shot?

CSW is such a massive tool! I can’t believe that he has achieved any level of credibility when he is such a massive penis!

[Kylapoiss]

[vroom]

THE bottom is definitely not in yet

bottom is a very relative, a time based definition. the absolute bottom was the beginning and will be the end of bitcoin.

[JayJuanGee]

McAfee to Jihan

LOL

Looks like a lot of bullshit, and also misleading to equate "power" to miners and mining.  We already learned from the UASF that power in bitcoin (likely also to be true in bcash) is more distributed than just miners being able to dictate outcome, and the most powerful players, overall are the users.. so they can play their little games and try to suggest that miners are all powerful, when they do not have as much power as the misleaders like to propagandize to be the case.

[bones261]

Looks like a lot of bullshit, and also misleading to equate "power" to miners and mining.  We already learned from the UASF that power in bitcoin (likely also to be true in bcash) is more distributed than just miners being able to dictate outcome, and the most powerful players, overall are the users.. so they can play their little games and try to suggest that miners are all powerful, when they do not have as much power as the misleaders like to propagandize to be the case.

All the UASF did was give the miners motivation to do what the users wanted. If most of the miners decided to ignore it, the UASF would not have gone anywhere. A chain on the Bitcoin Blockchain cannot advance without at least a few miners cooperating. It also testifies to the fact that although some people complain that BTC mining is overly centralized, none of the miners were willing to risk that they would end up being a lone wolf and have their blocks orphaned. It is clear the miners are still in a healthy competition rather than colluding with one another.

[ssmc2]

THE bottom is definitely not in yet

bottom is a very relative, a time based definition. the absolute bottom was the beginning and will be the end of bitcoin.

You know what I mean

[Last of the V8s]

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[JayJuanGee]

[...] long term.

Exactly. Meanwhile, posters can continue with their BCH Obser-vations in this thread.

Like it or not.  The bcash shenanigans has both an affect on current BTC prices, and could also have some longer term affects, depending on how the whole situation plays out.  However, concededly, most of us active WO participants seem to recognize that the odds of actual meaningful long term affects of bcash shenanigans on bitcoin are not really great because that stupid ass bcash project is largely so screwed up that it neither presents a long term meaningful threat to bitcoin, and there may even be some ways that bitcoin can learn and become more powerful through the study of the extent of lame that come out of their scumball powerplay struggles and manipulation attempts.