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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 4 (3%)
<$6,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.8%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.5%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.3%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (4.5%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (9.1%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 7 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (4.5%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (8.3%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 13 (9.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
>$9,500 - 17 (12.9%)
$20,000 - 9 (6.8%)
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For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).


does that mean I get my own nuclear submarine?
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The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Typical Foreign Office-type answer there. What are you? ASD?
You lot got us into this mess with your shades of grey crapola. We need someone with balls and clarity to get us out.
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January 20, 2019, 01:13:37 AM


 If the Democrats refuse this deal, I fear we'll legitimately be facing a civil war situation.

 God help us all.

A temporary 3 year deal for Dreamers as a swap for the Wall?  Nah, crappy deal.  

If you want to stop illegal immigration, how about removing the incentives.  Let's make it illegal to employ illegal immigrants.  Prosecute the farmers, cleaning companies and construction companies that employ Mexicans.

Of course, we all know the dirty secret that much of the US economy is propped up by illegal labour.

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January 20, 2019, 01:14:53 AM
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The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Typical Foreign Office-type answer there. What are you? ASD?
You lot got us into this mess with your shades of grey crapola. We need someone with balls and clarity to get us out.

No you need someone sensible with long term planning skills.  Someone prepared to invest in the future.  The problem with conservatives is that they aren't conservative enough.  None of them can see more than two election cycles ahead at most.   Most Tory politicans can't see past the end of their own term.  Most conservative voters can't see past this year's tax return.  

That's how you get Brexit as a result of a Tory infight.  

That's how you end up with places like Blackpool that have the lowest life expectancy in the UK, and its actually starting falling further.  

Plenty of us have gotten rich during austerity.  But we are fucking up the country as a result. 
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January 20, 2019, 01:21:51 AM

Quote from: Yeats
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Typical Foreign Office-type answer there. What are you? ASD?
You lot got us into this mess with your shades of grey crapola. We need someone with balls and clarity to get us out.

No you need someone sensible with long term planning skills.  Someone prepared to invest in the future.  The problem with conservatives is that they aren't conservative enough.  None of them can see more than two election cycles ahead at most.   Most Tory politicans can't see past the end of their own term.  Most conservative voters can't see past this year's tax return. 

That's how you get Brexit as a result of a Tory infight. 

That's how you end up with places like Blackpool that have the lowest life expectancy in the UK, and its actually starting falling further. 

Plenty of us have gotten rich during austerity.  But we are fucking up the country as a result. 
No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.
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January 20, 2019, 01:22:52 AM

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Great book. Could be where we are headed.
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January 20, 2019, 01:23:33 AM

Last of the V8s will make the trains run on time
Sometimes I'm seriously tempted.
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January 20, 2019, 01:25:32 AM

Quote from: Yeats
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.
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January 20, 2019, 01:26:05 AM

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Cliffnotes?
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January 20, 2019, 01:27:05 AM
Last edit: January 20, 2019, 01:51:37 AM by Biodom

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).


does that mean I get my own nuclear submarine?

I don't remember a sub, but recall that, perhaps, there was an aircraft carrier, but that's not too relevant.
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January 20, 2019, 01:27:26 AM

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  
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January 20, 2019, 01:28:54 AM

Quote from: Yeats
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

Exhibit 1:  FoxNews

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Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T
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Quote from: Yeats
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

Exhibit 1:  FoxNews

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Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T
Indeed, exhibit the one. Notice how they never say where the study is from in their links or headlines. There is a reason for that.
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January 20, 2019, 01:31:31 AM

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.
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January 20, 2019, 01:31:36 AM

For a potential future societal structure I suggest to read or re-read "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson (first published in 1992).

Cliffnotes?

too complex, predicted 'electronic currency', 'virtual reality', etc, etc.
one particular prediction is privatization of government functions, with sovereign enclaves forming, mostly based on economies and not policies.
A very much decentralized world with all possible pluses and minuses.
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January 20, 2019, 01:38:57 AM

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.

Typical conservative beggar thy neighbor approach.  Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Why the fuck does a UK power station need to be owned by a company in the Caymans that itself is owned by a company in Turkey that is owned by a Dutch limited partnership?  Cut that bullshit and you would be amazed how much revenue is available to the government. 
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January 20, 2019, 01:41:46 AM

Took the TALISKER single malt whiskey

Any good? Still gotta bring it .... Wink
It's somewhat peaty which isn't for everyone / harder to get into. It actually tastes surprisingly sweet once your palette adapts, with hints of something salty.
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January 20, 2019, 01:47:43 AM

Quote from: Yeats
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Always found the first part of this difficult to understand, while it's all too easy to see the latter part.
Certainly we need better leaders.

The best realise the world is not black and white.  Their caution is taken as prevarication.
Dunning-Kruger effect. The less you know the more secure you are in your own omniscience, the more you know the less secure you are. There is a third stage, knowledgeable and secure in your knowledge. But that is extremely rare.

Exhibit 1:  FoxNews

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Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5?r=US&IR=T
Indeed, exhibit the one. Notice how they never say where the study is from in their links or headlines. There is a reason for that.

Its linked in the article...

http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2012/confirmed/
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January 20, 2019, 01:49:21 AM

No it's just one of the problems of your democracy. Neither a left nor a right thing, but a lack of anything better thing.

Better things:

1.  Properly funded education system
2.  Properly funded NHS

But that requires the ability to see past the end of your nose.  

There is no money for that. Pay for your own shit.

Typical conservative beggar thy neighbor approach.  Don't let corporates get away with paying less than 1% tax and suddenly there is enough funding for everything.  

Why the fuck does a UK power station need to be owned by a company in the Caymans that itself is owned by a company in Turkey that is owned by a Dutch limited partnership?  Cut that bullshit and you would be amazed how much revenue is available to the government. 
http://www.usdebtclock.org/

There literally is no money for it. It's not a matter of politics or opinions or feelings. There is no money.
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