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May 15, 2019, 01:35:23 PM



Diversification is about picking the best of each market segment and buying a little of each.  It is not about chasing penny stocks.

Portfolio performance is only gained with a range of stocks from each sector. The lower caps will always be more volatile and some will outperform the dominant stock.

We are only talking investment intent and actions here, not fundamental value. Therefore investment is about chasing penny stocks , and medium cap stocks, just as much as big-cap stocks.

The sort of investors we are talking about see cryptos as stocks, so plenty of money will flow into alts, and many will outperform BTC (considering price alone)

You are confusing two separate concepts.  

Diversification is a risk reduction technique.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversification_(finance)

Portfolio optimization is about optimising a portfolio to achieve a specific objective (growth, income etc). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portfolio_optimization.

When you are saying ‘diversification’, you really mean portfolio optimization in a way that increases risk


If you want to optimize for high risk, high growth then chasing alts is the way to go. Don’t make the mistake of thinking this is diversification, because it’s not.
I don't know if that's what the wikipedia article says and if it is then it's absolutely retarded.

Say your portfolio has an expected return of 5%.

Now you buy some risky assets to add to your portfolio.

If that addition to your portfolio fails to increase your expected return beyond 5% you've failed to optimize your portfolio.

If it's equal you now have a more volatile portfolio, if it drops below 5% you've lowered your profitability. In both cases you have not optimized anything. So anyone who calls those cases portfolio optimization probably has a degree in Economics.

If you've indeed optimized your portfolio then your expected return has gone above 5%. Your portfolio may now have become more volatile depending on your relative exposition to those "risky assets", but you have not increased the risk. Unless you are talking about marginal probabilities, which would be nonsense considering that we are talking about an aggregate, a portfolio.
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May 15, 2019, 01:35:38 PM

So all in all I wouldn't p*ss on the potato patch that you're growing in if I were you. (I also make the same case in reverse to sh*coin maximalists by the way - for the same reasons).

I'm no horticulturist, but isn't urine actually a good fertilizer? Hence, you would want to piss on your potato patch?

It depends. Pissing on grass kills it eventually. People's dogs pissing on their lawns can cause chaos.

Shitting on your potato patch is a completely different matter. Hence we get that smell wafting in through train windows while passing a freshly fertilised field.

Too much fertilizer always burns out plants.

https://insteading.com/blog/human-urine-fertilizer/

Maybe that's why UROCoin failed despite being backed 1:1 with 1 metric tonne of Urea fertilizer (derived from piss).

Another dev tried a similar strategy with pisscoin, but strangely enough that failed too.


I don't feel qualified to comment on how a shitcoin based on Piss could possibly fail. Smiley

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As with any source of nitrogen, urea itself can damage plants: nitrogen impairs or completely impedes seed germination, and too much nitrogen can give crops a “burn.”

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May 15, 2019, 01:37:31 PM

via Imgflip Meme Generator

Was cruising in the City last evening after playing... and saw this one, curious what kind of guy this would be....

HODLEr

Non HODLer

No coiner

??

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May 15, 2019, 01:38:15 PM

The expression “piss poor” comes from those who sold their urine to tanners...

Piss was also used as a source for salt peter for gunpowder.
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May 15, 2019, 01:47:00 PM

https://i.imgur.com/tBTkIye.gif

First wanna thank you guys for the "for most massively" support coming from you guys (for the source application)

Also wanna thank all the members who are mainly in other sections as speculation or our "WO-thread"

Then every member will know the application was my words that I wanted to say, but the PERFECT English wasn't my exact writing, so XhomerX thanks for helping me out putting my words in that awesome text, I owe you a very big THANK YOU and most of respect, helping a member out how you did.

Then jojo said one time he wasn't really sending support cause members he talk with and are became sources are a little bit difficult for him, as he doesn't want to make a joke that comes of like merit begging, I been with you guys a very long period of time and I will not change for one F*** while being in here and, I know you guys in here so just be the same to me and don't give a F***

That been said the sun is shining on the terrace where i'm drinking a fresh ginger thea and a sparkling water, the price is 7915$ and BTC looks as beautiful as always

1BTC still = 1BTC so nothing changed Cheesy
Congrats on finally getting accepted!

Celebrate with a bottle of:




It's pretty sweet. Almost like a dessert wine or liqueur.
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May 15, 2019, 01:56:47 PM

bitcoin is more like an industrial standard like usb or internet.

Hmm. Maybe more like a standard for brush heads.

We're 10 years in and there are now 4 million blockchain transactions occurring each day, only about 0.3 Million (6%) of which are on the bitcoin network. Total reported daily trading volume is about $60 Billion, of which only $1.6 Billion occurs on the Bitcoin network. Another $27 billion or so is in off-chain trading of bitcoin as an asset and the other $30 billion is in non-bitcoin blockchain assets.

So again, contrary to your "standards" metaphor bitcoin is emerging as a horizontal asset, not a vertical one. It occupies a strategic role as a reserve tier within a complex, developing market

in 10 years, no one came up with any innovative use case.
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That is for the most part b.s. and you probably know it is so I won't develop the point further other than to comment on your "it will be integrated into bitcoin" remark.

Sidechains, for example, are an interesting novelty but they're a technological diversification of bitcoin, not a monetary one. If I want an asset who's value is pegged to bitcoin, I'll buy bitcoin. If I want an asset with different monetary properties I'll buy one who's price is set by the free market commensurate with demand. Sidechains in that respect are simply a market rigging attempt by crazed mono-culture zealot developers who think that economics should work like a set of technical standards. It's the ultimate hypocrisy. First...there's no need for anything other than bitcoin, then later...ok, there is but its value must be fixed to bitcoin's.

No. As with any other innovation, the value will be set ultimately by the free market.
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Was cruising in the City last evening after playing... and saw this one, curious what kind of guy this would be....


Must be Nelson's car.



BTW congrats on the big Merit Source victory. Some people have been waiting 6 months or longer since they applied (makes me think they were probably passed on but theymos didn't have the heart to tell them).
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May 15, 2019, 02:07:31 PM
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Trouble with Bitcoin is it's far more disruptive than any of us realised.
Many of us are still stuck with fiat-based visions of the future.
But money is real now, at long last.
You can't go pouring huge gobs of fake money into futuristic projects any more.
You will lose your chance to buy more bitcoin and thereby to have any power or influence.
An OG with 50k coins will have more power than most countries do now.
~150 of them will have half the world's wealth.
By far the most people will not have any money at all.
Bitcoin will bring about a new feudal technocracy.
But first, complete chaos.
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May 15, 2019, 02:11:15 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/ac4eub/peter_rizun_dont_worry_bloxroutelabs_they_used_to/enjshro/
gmaxwell quietly dismantling Rizun
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May 15, 2019, 02:11:56 PM

Come on people, 'nance is about to open in 15 mins all being well



now is the time to focus

I just came


...to the realization that I might like big butts more than Bitcoin
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May 15, 2019, 02:38:15 PM

every shitcoin on the planet up ~10% - thanks CZ
except BCH, which has fork problems agin - congrats RVer
https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1128670677442203652
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May 15, 2019, 02:41:09 PM

Crypto Prime Dealer SFOX Partners With New York Bank to Offer New FDIC Protection

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Institutional cryptocurrency prime dealer SFOX has partnered with a New York bank to offer state-insured bank accounts for traders,
the company confirmed in a blog post on May 14.
SFOX, which says the move is an industry first, stated the deal with M.Y. Safra Bank primarily targeted institutional investors and funds.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-prime-dealer-sfox-partners-with-new-york-bank-to-offer-new-fdic-protection

https://blog.sfox.com/sfox-partners-with-m-y-safra-bank-to-offer-segregated-fdic-insured-bank-accounts-7fa610cd8b5c

Ummm, NO.

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1.3. Permitted Use. You agree and acknowledge that your use of the SFOX Site or the Services will not involve the use of any retirement funds, including any personal or indirect IRA investments and that you will not use the SFOX Site or the Services in connection with any unlawful or otherwise undesirable activity (as determined by SFOX in its absolute and sole discretion), including, but not limited to dealing in counterfeit goods, gambling, money laundering, or drug activity. In addition, you represent that your SFOX Account is discretionary in nature, and is not being used primarily for personal, family, or household purposes.

https://www.sfox.com/terms.html
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May 15, 2019, 02:46:05 PM

The expression “piss poor” comes from those who sold their urine to tanners...

Piss was also used as a source for salt peter for gunpowder.
There's a cliffhanger scene in Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy.  A gang of bad white dudes, out of gunpowder, is trapped on a mountaintop and being attacked by Indians.
The bad white dudes need to make gunpowder.  They piss and wait for the piss to dry in order to have saltpeter for the gunpowder.  The piss dries in time to make the gunpowder just as the indians are about to overrun the white dudes' position.
Then the white dudes blow away the injuns.
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May 15, 2019, 02:48:15 PM

Come on people, 'nance is about to open in 15 mins all being well



now is the time to focus

I just came


...to the realization that I might like big butts more than Bitcoin


inorite?
i mean it takes a big hammer to drive a big strap-o... oh nvm
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May 15, 2019, 03:11:31 PM

bCash...lol. Tongue





https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1128670677442203652
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May 15, 2019, 03:13:11 PM

Congratulations Mic

I know this is something you really wanted
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May 15, 2019, 03:13:34 PM

In last 24 hours,

Bitcoin - -1.28%

Ethereum - +12.58

What is happening? Roll Eyes
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May 15, 2019, 03:16:19 PM

It's called sideways.

This is perfectly fine.
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What is happening? Roll Eyes

Altmageddon phase 2. Tongue
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