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February 19, 2016, 04:27:29 AM


trading profitably isn't hard, if you're not human!

the biggest mistake poeple make when they start trading bitcoin, is not sticking to their plan and get swept away in the emotional roller coaster.

billyjoeallen is a good trader, you know how i know, he said this:

billyjoeallen, get the fuck off the forums, and close your short!
BFX will close it for me when I get force liquidated.  

IDK where get got this kind of resolve... but this is the trade mark of a good trader.

was his call to sell 360+ good? fuck no! but reversing that position now would be MUCH worst. but its REALLY hard to accept that fact, most poeple would have covered by now.

maybe a week from now FUD will be strong again price below 400, and THEN he can think about taking a loss ( or small profit who knows ). until then it only make sense to HODL or add more to the position.

cold unfeeling calculated, thats what is required.

if you FEEL the price is going one way or another and act, your going to get #rect no matter what happens, price could range between 300-500 over and over and you will still manage to lose big.

also note he is basing his trade on a specific speculation " shit will hit the fan, when we try to scale bitcoin " not some technical chart BS.

with that speculation in mind he formulated a plan and is sticking to it, until his speculation is invalided ( in his case he leveraged  so another possibility is he "blows up." )



I agree with you about taking out some of the guessing and the feelings, and you can also set up parameters in trading in order that no matter what you profit (or at least most scenarios - absent going to zero).

I am not claiming to be an expert trader or to have any vast experience, but I am claiming to be learning from my trading experience as I go, and I have created a fairly decent and thought out strategy that seems to work really well for me in the past 5 months. 


So, for example, if I have 100 BTC in my trading portfolio, every time BTC goes up $10, I trade an approximate percentage of my profits.  In this example profits would be $1,000 on a $10 raise in price, and I can trade 10% to 30% ($100 to $300) of those profits as the price is going up.  Then when it comes back down, I buy back, and if the price keeps going up, then the dollars are accumulating and left in my trading pool, but  because I am only selling a less than half percentage of my profits, I am always going to have enough BTC in my fund to keep profiting from price rises and to keep accumulating BTC along the way because sooner or later BTC prices are going to correct, at least somewhat.

Anyhow there can be decisions regarding how much BTC to trade, and how a guy wants to keep apportioned in his trading account (like mentioned earlier 90% or 80% or some other amount that likely fluctuates with changing market conditions), and for me it seems to make much more sense to put such BTC trading to practice rather than to consider such practices on a theoretical level.








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February 19, 2016, 05:26:03 AM

thanks for the segwit reading guys. quite helpful.

421.97 pretty stable the last few hours. weren't we expecting a breakaway over 420?
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February 19, 2016, 06:33:05 AM


noone gets to tell devs what they can and can't do ... you choose who you follow, the genuine or the charlatans and deceivers


You are NOT marcus agustus. So  whoever controls his account, here's what I can do. I can say either Core stops stalling or I will sell. I can follow through.

It doesn't matter if Core is sincere in thinking a settlement protocol is best or if they are being selfish and deceptive. What matters is that they want something i don't want and I don't have to play this game if I don't like the rules.
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noone gets to tell devs what they can and can't do ... you choose who you follow, the genuine or the charlatans and deceivers


You are NOT marcus agustus. So  whoever controls his account, here's what I can do. I can say either Core stops stalling or I will sell. I can follow through.

It doesn't matter if Core is sincere in thinking a settlement protocol is best or if they are being selfish and deceptive. What matters is that they want something i don't want and I don't have to play this game if I don't like the rules.
Or, you can chill.
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noone gets to tell devs what they can and can't do ... you choose who you follow, the genuine or the charlatans and deceivers


You are NOT marcus agustus. So  whoever controls his account, here's what I can do. I can say either Core stops stalling or I will sell. I can follow through.

It doesn't matter if Core is sincere in thinking a settlement protocol is best or if they are being selfish and deceptive. What matters is that they want something i don't want and I don't have to play this game if I don't like the rules.
Or, you can cshill.

ftfy

bitcoin is no game, but if only the billyboy wanker and his alikes would rage quit as hearn did..
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February 19, 2016, 06:52:29 AM

thanks for the segwit reading guys. quite helpful.

421.97 pretty stable the last few hours. weren't we expecting a breakaway over 420?

Yeah, about that....

Kinda looking like a head and shoulders pattern on the 1 HR chart.
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bitcoin is no game, but if only the billyboy wanker and his alikes would rage quit as hearn did..

We are going to make you pay more than Hearn did.  He sold at ~$300.  He's not a trader. 
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Guys... Is this a head and shoulders?  Roll Eyes

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February 19, 2016, 08:32:10 AM

thanks for the segwit reading guys. quite helpful.

421.97 pretty stable the last few hours. weren't we expecting a breakaway over 420?

Seems like we went back to 415 though. But It's a good thing as long as it keeps more or less stable at this point Smiley
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Core hasn't accepted that yet. When and if they do, it's off to the races, but not before then.  You need to understand their objection. What if we upgrade to 2MB forks and nothing bad happens? It means that we could upgrade to 4 or 8 or 20.

How can I put it mildly? This is way too ...ignorant... just stop this madness. Just because you bought some coins at 10$, doesn't mean you know what's best for bitcoin, technically speaking. Let those who understand these things make the right choices.

Your rationale is so simplistic that it's not even funny. If you go from 1 to 2, it doesn't automatically mean you can go to 4-8-20 without consequences. This is truly idiotic to even contemplate.

The propagation data is vastly different for blocks of 2 / 4 / 8 / 20MB. In simple terms, it takes a few seconds for a 1MB block while it takes several MINUTES for a 20MB block - and if that block is crafted to fuck up CPU resources of others validating it, it could take half an hour or more to get both propagated + validated. By that time, an average of 3 new blocks will have been issued.
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February 19, 2016, 09:33:35 AM

This present situation has been very disappointing to watch unfold.
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February 19, 2016, 10:16:47 AM

Core hasn't accepted that yet. When and if they do, it's off to the races, but not before then.  You need to understand their objection. What if we upgrade to 2MB forks and nothing bad happens? It means that we could upgrade to 4 or 8 or 20.

How can I put it mildly? This is way too ...ignorant... just stop this madness. Just because you bought some coins at 10$, doesn't mean you know what's best for bitcoin, technically speaking. Let those who understand these things make the right choices.

Your rationale is so simplistic that it's not even funny. If you go from 1 to 2, it doesn't automatically mean you can go to 4-8-20 without consequences. This is truly idiotic to even contemplate.

The propagation data is vastly different for blocks of 2 / 4 / 8 / 20MB. In simple terms, it takes a few seconds for a 1MB block while it takes several MINUTES for a 20MB block - and if that block is crafted to fuck up CPU resources of others validating it, it could take half an hour or more to get both propagated + validated. By that time, an average of 3 new blocks will have been issued.

I am not sure why you are complaining about validation times for 20mb blocks when what is proposed is a rise to 2mb which is safe.

You seem to be under the gross misapprehension that those of us (the economic majority) who want bitcoin to scale on chain as far as is technically feasible also want to see it damaged in some way. The absolute reverse is true. We want bitcoin to succeed and are in the main heavily invested financially in that successful outcome. And those people with more than a tiny grasp of economics can see clearly that artificially capping the number of transactions which the bitcoin network can process whilst the userbase and transaction volume is relentlessly rising is a terrible, terrible idea.

Lobbying has been shown to be an extremely powerful way to control politics and lawmaking in the US. Bribery is another term for it. If i had a 75 million dollar slush fund I could probably make an excellent attempt to subvert bitcoin by paying a few key developers and suggesting gradual incremental limitations to bitcoin on chain to allow amazing non-existent payment layers to do the heavy lifting.
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Guys... Is this a head and shoulders?  Roll Eyes



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