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[shmadz]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

Someone asked a non-serious question gave a non-serious answer.  Gavin sounds more mentally balanced than you do.  You think the CIA and the CFR have mind control rays or something? You can't flip Gavin because he's a boring computer nerd who pays his taxes. he's boring. They have no control over a guy like that and if they did, you would see a change in his personality, and there hasn't been one. 

What was he supposed to say when invited by the CIA? Fuck off? How would that have helped us? He probably told them they could use it to pay their informants. It's what I would have said.

Ah, Billie Joe Ellen , you sir are a moron.

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[blunderer]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a sick fuck and start raping your neighbor's son, shmadz?

[shmadz]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

[blunderer]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up

[shmadz]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up

Right, because after being asked "When were you co opted" going um, hmmmm ahhh, he he, ummm for 10 seconds before answering "a couple years ago" is a much better declaration of innocence?

[blunderer]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up

Right, because after being asked "When were you co opted" going um, hmmmm ahhh, he he, ummm for 10 seconds before answering "a couple years ago" is a much better declaration of innocence?

Thank goodness you knew I was gonna ask about your little frolic with your neighbor's boy & had your answer well rehearsed -- GG, you sick fuck, good game

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Forbes talking about Bitcoin can be comical.

“Anyone who knows what they are doing and uses an updated wallet will clearly know the difference between coins in both forks,” states Redditor klondike­­_barz (most Bitcoin enthusiasts prefer to remain anonymous).

 

Edit: technically this is pseudonymity. We're all a bunch of namefags, really.

[shmadz]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up

Right, because after being asked "When were you co opted" going um, hmmmm ahhh, he he, ummm for 10 seconds before answering "a couple years ago" is a much better declaration of innocence?

Thank goodness you knew I was gonna ask about your little frolic with your neighbor's boy & had your answer well rehearsed -- GG, you sick fuck, good game

The truth always comes out. When someone asks "When were you co-opted?" And you answer "a couple years ago" ...
 
How can you believe that Gavin has not been coerced when he openly admits it and - to my knowledge - has never explicitly denied it?

I would be overjoyed if Gavin were not compromised, he always seemed like "one of the good guys"  -- if you could provide a link to a page where he explicitly denies any coercion I'd be grateful.

[blunderer]

Forbes talking about Bitcoin can be comical.

“Anyone who knows what they are doing and uses an updated wallet will clearly know the difference between coins in both forks,” states Redditor klondike­­_barz (most Bitcoin enthusiasts prefer to remain anonymous).

 

Edit: technically this is pseudonymity. We're all a bunch of namefags, really.

I just enjoy subtle digs like "Bitcoin enthusiasts."  Has that same feel as "Bondage enthusiasts"

[marcus_of_augustus]

Always dragging it back in the kiddie-porn FUD and accusations ... hater shills must have in their contracts to get paid extra bonuses if they can weave kiddie-porn FUD into a bitcoin forum conversation.

Instigating a divisive food fight is probably a bonus point too. Reputation shredding, disassembling, deflection, spamming all seem to work well also.

Edit: I don't know anyone that talks as much about kiddie porn as government agents, I wonder why that is?

[blunderer]

Seriously, Gavin was asked straight up "When were you co-opted and why are you trying to destroy bitcoin?"

Gavin answers with " a couple years ago - and yes I've stopped beating my wife - I guess is the only appropriate answer to that."

Who the Fuck would say something like that?

So when did you become a pedophile and start raping your son, shmadz?

I am not a pedophile and I have never raped anyone.

See? How fucking difficult is it to tell the truth?

Flat denial. Just like every other sick pedo when cornered. Had your answer all figured out in advance, "as if" you knew this question was going to come up

Right, because after being asked "When were you co opted" going um, hmmmm ahhh, he he, ummm for 10 seconds before answering "a couple years ago" is a much better declaration of innocence?

Thank goodness you knew I was gonna ask about your little frolic with your neighbor's boy & had your answer well rehearsed -- GG, you sick fuck, good game

The truth always comes out. When someone asks "When were you co-opted?" And you answer "a couple years ago" ...
 
How can you believe that Gavin has not been coerced when he openly admits it and - to my knowledge - has never explicitly denied it?

I would be overjoyed if Gavin were not compromised, he always seemed like "one of the good guys"  -- if you could provide a link to a page where he explicitly denies any coercion I'd be grateful.

Dear batshit crazy fuck: That's how normal people react when an asshole unfit to lick their shoes asks them a question as bizarre and rudely inappropriate as that one.  At first, they're speechless, stunned by the douchebaggery. Then, to avoid cornering a rat (give the douche a way out without totally losing face), try to make lite of the question.

I honestly don't know how I'd respond to an idiotic leading brilliantly probing question like that.  Hopefully, there'd be no charges pressed/cops knocking @ my door afterwards tho.
Who was the douche interviewer? (refuse to give him an extra view)

@marcus idioticus, Remember:

[BitUsher]

The truth always comes out. When someone asks "When were you co-opted?" And you answer "a couple years ago" ...
 
How can you believe that Gavin has not been coerced when he openly admits it and - to my knowledge - has never explicitly denied it?

I would be overjoyed if Gavin were not compromised, he always seemed like "one of the good guys"  -- if you could provide a link to a page where he explicitly denies any coercion I'd be grateful.

While I didn't like how Gavin used the misleading metaphor of different implementations (with contrary consensus rules) = browsers, His response to being co-opted is perfectly reasonable. Its a silly question to ask in the first place and he has been accused for years of this and denied it many times. It is rather rude to ask it in a serious manner and thus why it was asked in jest eliciting a joke in response.  

It is almost impossible to know someone is a co-opted or an agent provocateur , and thus we should merely look at and review each others actions instead of assigning a likelihood. Hearn's actions are of high suspect, Gavin still appears to be genuine IMHO.

Edit: I don't know anyone that talks as much about kiddie porn as government agents, I wonder why that is?

The moment I hear someone make appeals to  "OMG , kiddie porn" or "Terrorists" my guard is up and they are immediately discredited.  Using those appeals to emotion at minimum reflect someone who is acting hysterical and emotional and not properly logically reflecting upon the data.

[ImI]

nice, but its the blocks that matter and there we only see 1 block so far. pretty disappointing if you ask me.

Antpool hasn't switched yet. They're expecting to do so soon.

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/694080283407069184

What do you think would happen in a BJA Commiepocalypse situation?

Most Bitcoin companies in China are as committed and decent as any bitcoiner (cue lambie), but I'm not comfortable with having to trust a socialist dictatorship to not interfere. They don't have to nationalize anything. That's what you do in a country when you are used to having to justify your actions. The chinese government will only have to make a few phone calls. I don't see why they would do such a thing, but again, I don't like having to trust them.

I agree with that. The problem is that they could shut us down or pressure the miners to adopt some "features" that benefit the Sate.  I don't know what those features may be, or even if they would bother us at all, but the fact that they can do it is contrary to the design and principles of Bitcoin.

you see if they have to add some "features" that the chinese gov wants its pretty easy and completely different from our problems at the moment. we would simply fork away. the reason we have so much discussion at the moment is just because both sides have arguments on their side, but in such a situation we would fork in 24h and thats it.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

The truth always comes out. When someone asks "When were you co-opted?" And you answer "a couple years ago" ...
 
How can you believe that Gavin has not been coerced when he openly admits it and - to my knowledge - has never explicitly denied it?

I would be overjoyed if Gavin were not compromised, he always seemed like "one of the good guys"  -- if you could provide a link to a page where he explicitly denies any coercion I'd be grateful.

While I didn't like how Gavin used the misleading metaphor of different implementations (with contrary consensus rules) to browsers, His response to being co-opted is perfectly reasonable. Its a silly question to ask in the first place and he has been accused for years of this and denied it many times. It is rather rude to ask it in a serious manner and thus why it was asked in jest eliciting a joke in response.  

It is almost impossible to know someone is a co-opted or an agent provocateur , and thus we should merely look at and review each others actions instead of assigning a likelihood. Hearn's actions are of high suspect, Gavin still appears to be genuine IMHO.

About this: Is there any actual evidence to suggest anybody (British Intelligence or otherwise ) is actively infiltrating bitcoin discussion forums? Srsly. If not, the implication is sort of absurd and insulting. Innit?

[blunderer]

Edit: I don't know anyone that talks as much about kiddie porn as government agents, I wonder why that is?

Edit: That's because you're a batshit crazy paranoid fuck, and think everyone but you & your buddies (who prefer to keep their kiddie-diddling adventures mostly to themselves) is a government agent

[gentlemand]

About this: Is there any actual evidence to suggest anybody (British Intelligence or otherwise ) is actively infiltrating bitcoin discussion forums? Srsly. If not, the implication is sort of absurd and insulting. Innit?

Don't spoil our fun. It makes us feel important to believe that They are on here posting mind control memes. My parents disowned me because they thought I was a fuckstick but now they're ever so proud to know that their offspring is caught up in a game of cat and mouse with powers beyond our comprehension.

[blunderer]

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It is almost impossible to know someone is a co-opted or an agent provocateur , and thus we should merely look at and review each others actions instead of assigning a likelihood. Hearn's actions are of high suspect, Gavin still appears to be genuine IMHO.

About this: Is there any actual evidence to suggest anybody (British Intelligence or otherwise ) is actively infiltrating bitcoin discussion forums? Srsly. If not, the implication is sort of absurd and insulting. Innit?
[/quote]

"Agent provocateur" is one of those "classy" sounding phrases like "coup de grace" that not-so-bright people tend to use unironically.

[BitUsher]

About this: Is there any actual evidence to suggest anybody (British Intelligence or otherwise ) is actively infiltrating bitcoin discussion forums? Srsly. If not, the implication is sort of absurd and insulting. Innit?

Yes, there is some evidence, being that it was discussed as a means of attacking bitcoin in some research* and moderators on forums and social media sites have seen some good evidence representing such behavior. Using agent provocateurs is a common tool that states routinely use and we should expect this behavior to be occurring now , and if not in the near future. In the end it doesn't really matter if it is merely a troll, shill, aggressively disruptive advocate, or  agent provocateur siring up division in our ecosystem.... we should address these concerns head on by not feeding into the personal attacks, discussing the facts clearly, avoiding arguments when possible, and ignoring abusive individuals.

*   https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1231/RAND_RR1231.pdf

[gentlemand]

Yes, there is some evidence, being that it was discussed as a means of attacking bitcoin in some "research" and moderators on forums and social media sites have seen some good evidence representing such behavior.

I favour the occum's razor approach. There are plenty of twisted and resentful little shits with no shortage of time on their hands perfectly willing to do it for free for their own gratification.

[Cconvert2G36]

The truth always comes out. When someone asks "When were you co-opted?" And you answer "a couple years ago" ...
 
How can you believe that Gavin has not been coerced when he openly admits it and - to my knowledge - has never explicitly denied it?

I would be overjoyed if Gavin were not compromised, he always seemed like "one of the good guys"  -- if you could provide a link to a page where he explicitly denies any coercion I'd be grateful.

While I didn't like how Gavin used the misleading metaphor of different implementations (with contrary consensus rules) to browsers, His response to being co-opted is perfectly reasonable. Its a silly question to ask in the first place and he has been accused for years of this and denied it many times. It is rather rude to ask it in a serious manner and thus why it was asked in jest eliciting a joke in response.  

It is almost impossible to know someone is a co-opted or an agent provocateur , and thus we should merely look at and review each others actions instead of assigning a likelihood. Hearn's actions are of high suspect, Gavin still appears to be genuine IMHO.

About this: Is there any actual evidence to suggest anybody (British Intelligence or otherwise ) is actively infiltrating bitcoin discussion forums? Srsly. If not, the implication is sort of absurd and insulting. Innit?

After seeing others use the same arguments he's been using (Disagree with me = GCHQ super cereal secret agent), the embarrassment has finally hit 'im (kinda  ).

They can't actually believe so many disagree with them, therefore... gubmint agents.

It would be insulting if it wasn't kinda cute... like crazy uncle Leo pointing out the chemtrails on a sunny afternoon at the family reunion in Tulsa.