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February 26, 2016, 12:48:02 AM |
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if this thread must die then so be it
Losing faith ?
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billyjoeallen
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February 26, 2016, 12:48:02 AM |
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i'm fighting fire with fire now.
Yeah, you know we firefighters don't really do that, right? I mean sometimes with brushfires the wildland guys will start a backburn to create a firebreak, but often that just makes the problem worse. It's one reason why the Ammonds in Oregon are serving a five year prison sentence. Just so you know.
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February 26, 2016, 12:48:36 AM |
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if this thread must die then so be it
Losing faith ?
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February 26, 2016, 12:48:56 AM |
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February 26, 2016, 12:52:14 AM |
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if this thread must die then so be it
Losing faith ? LOL, I think we should kill it. It is impossible to keep up with the conversation. Perhaps moderater can save us by locking it.
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orpington
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February 26, 2016, 12:58:14 AM |
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So what? They couldn't even spell "announced" correctly so that roadmap must be totally cringeworthy
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February 26, 2016, 01:00:48 AM |
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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February 26, 2016, 01:01:34 AM |
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February 26, 2016, 01:02:03 AM |
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...
I may or may not be working on, or, rather, composing, another post that may or, in all likelihood shall, address some, if not all, of these areas of your purported and/or potential concern(s), which is to say the concerns you may or may not hold now are likely to be addressed in the post which is the topic of the post I'm currently composing, to the extent that you are really concerned (and will remain concerned upon the completion of the post of which I'm currently informing you), (even though it appears that you seem to appear to seem to be reverting back, i.e. regressing, to some (and/or all) of your earlier white knighting behaviors, or, perhaps, this is merely your feeble attempt at manifesting in the corporeal present the precognition of your future white-knighting behavior, the possibility which has not escaped me, albeit it's really shit. You fool.).
Regarding telling everything or a lot of things or stream of consciousness or whatever you want to call it, there is likely some repetition taking place I may or may not be working on, or, rather, composing, another post that may or, in all likelihood, shall address some, if not all, of these areas of your purported and/or potential concern(s), which is to say the concerns you may or may not hold now are likely to be addressed in the post which is the topic of the post I'm currently composing, to the extent that you are really concerned (and will remain concerned upon the completion of the post of which I'm currently informing you), (even though it appears that you seem to appear to seem to be reverting back, i.e. regressing, to some (and/or all) of your earlier white knighting behaviors, or, perhaps, this is merely your feeble attempt at manifesting in some of my recent content, but I may or may not be working on, or, rather, composing, another post that may or, in all likelihood, shall, address some, if not all, of these areas of your purported and/or potential concern(s), which is to say the concerns you may or may not hold now are likely to be addressed in the post which is the topic of the post I'm currently composing, to the extent that you are really concerned (and will remain concerned upon the completion of the post of which I'm currently informing you), (even though it appears that is no different from anyone else who has posted a lot in various parts of this forum.. with various repeated themes in the different threads.
Brevity, i.e. the shortness or rather concise terseness of the author's final product, e.g. a book or a letter, or even a diary entry where you start out with "Dear diary," which really doesn't need to be said at all if you think of it, but people just do it because everybody does it, anyway... the thing that the author should think about long and hard, before he puts pen to paper, is that brevity is the heart of, or, more precicely, the soul of, wit. To wit, wittiness, or even smartness. That's how important brevity is when you write. ...a book, or even a forum post.
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tomothy
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February 26, 2016, 01:03:58 AM |
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roadmap/roadmap2016.md
Note: This is our initial roadmap proposal. We will run this by miners, companies and users for feedback, before it is finalized.
Bitcoin Classic 2016 Roadmap
The Bitcoin Classic team will help realize Satoshi’s vision of making Bitcoin scale into a global peer to peer cash system, and not just a settlement network. We believe on-chain scaling is crucial for the long term health of Bitcoin. On-chain scaling maximizes transaction volume, whose fees are needed to replace miner rewards on the medium to long term scale.
Our preferred strategy for on-chain scaling, is to eliminate the need for blocks to be synced within seconds. We will implement solutions that make continuous block syncing possible. Instead of transmitting the data for a new block all at once when it is found, we can significantly optimize current bandwidth by sending data during the full ten-minute interval between blocks. This will enable the Bitcoin network to scale to significant new levels, without endangering decentralization. We will scale using a 3-pronged approach:
Phase 1 (Q1-Q2)
Urgently resolve issue of blocks being almost full
Implement BIP 109: Raise block size limit from 1MB to 2MB. Hard fork with 75% activation threshold (750 of 1000 blocks), 28 day activation grace period. Software based on Bitcoin Core implementation 0.11.2 and 0.12.0. Note: 0.11.2 is already finished and available for download here.
Phase 2 (Q2-Q3)
Eliminate the need for blocks to be sent within seconds
Reduce the effect of block propagation times on orphan rates (lost miner income) De-emphasize block size as an obstacle for scaling and open up potential for on-chain transaction throughput gains using several improvements (listed below). Optimizations for bandwidth constrained nodes via improvements to the P2P layer Note: We intend to discuss various solutions such as the ones listed below and pick the best ones.
Parallel validation of blocks (theoretically reduces the profitability of excessive-sized block attacks). Headers-first mining (largely nullifies excessive-sized block attacks). Thin blocks: Blocks refer to transactions that have been well propagated rather than including them, allowing for minimization of bandwidth use. Weak blocks: allow miners to pre-announce the blocks they are working on, to minimize the data sent once a block is found. Validate Once: Transactions that have been validated when entering a node’s memory pool do not need to be revalidated when included in a block (speeds up block validation). Phase 3 (Q3-Q4)
Make the block size limit dynamic
Note: This phase will only happen when miners & companies confirm Phase 2 successfully addressed their blocksize concerns.
Use a variation of Steven Pair’s/BitPay proposal. Validation cost of a block must be less than a small multiple of the average cost over the last difficulty adjustment period Simplified version of Segregated Witness from Core, when it is available Technical details
A more technical version of the roadmap can be found here
Conference
We plan to hold an on-chain scaling conference soon, where these and future scaling solutions & concerns can be discussed among the community.
I think the timing of the above in connection with f2pool ddos is interesting. I sense a bigger incoming drop. Maybe we test like 407s?
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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February 26, 2016, 01:04:36 AM |
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This is merely your feeble attempt at manifesting in some of my recent content, but I may or may not be working on, or, rather, composing, another post that may or, in all likelihood, shall, address some, if not all, of these areas of your purported and/or potential concern(s), which is to say the concerns you may or may not hold now are likely to be addressed in the post which is the topic of the post I'm currently composing.
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February 26, 2016, 01:05:46 AM |
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Why would a governance change be appropriate?
You want a governance change, here's how you do it: Fork the project without proposing a chain fork. Attract developers and community support, under a new project with new governance rules.
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BlindMayorBitcorn
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February 26, 2016, 01:06:30 AM |
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Make the block size limit dynamic
Can someone unpack this for me?
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bargainbin
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February 26, 2016, 01:07:58 AM |
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i'm fighting fire with fire now.
Yeah, you know we firefighters don't really do that, right? ...
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February 26, 2016, 01:09:22 AM |
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Make the block size limit dynamic
Can someone unpack this for me? dynamic=unlimited rubber-dollar.gif
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billyjoeallen
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February 26, 2016, 01:11:59 AM |
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Why would a governance change be appropriate?
You want a governance change, here's how you do it: Fork the project without proposing a chain fork. Attract developers and community support, under a new project with new governance rules. That's my chain. You want it, you're gonna pay for it.
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February 26, 2016, 01:12:29 AM |
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February 26, 2016, 01:14:33 AM |
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It seems to be much better for bitcoin to grow slowly and also much better not to be too rash in attempts to change governance...
I'm curious how bad/urgent a problem would have to be before you thought a change in governance was appropriate. Maybe to the extent to which governance is broken, is a problem that has recently been attempted to be created. And part of the logical and propaganda difficulty with this is that the problem of bitcoin seems to have been recently that the urgency of the situations has been framed in terms of the size of the block, urgency, with a hidden governance agenda. Now, you are suggesting that the central consideration is the change of governance is what is urgent... Again the presumption and the burden is not on me to suggest what it would take to have a problem that necessitates a change, but the burden is someone who is proposing a change to provide evidence and logic regard what is the problem exactly and what are they proposing to change to fix the described (and in this case alleged) problem. If there is no change in anything, then the status quo remains and continues.
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