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[shmadz]

Don't mind me. I'm just pissed I missed the train. I bet there's rich folks eating in fancy dining cars. They're probably drinkin' coffee and smoking big cigars.

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And that's what tortures me...

Many trains to come.

 Some speed up, some slow down...

If you pay attention long enough you will begin to figure out which is which.

[adamstgBit]

echh....g'nite y'all!!!

n8

we'll catch you tomorrow.

[adamstgBit]

Don't mind me. I'm just pissed I missed the train. I bet there's rich folks eating in fancy dining cars. They're probably drinkin' coffee and smoking big cigars.

...

And that's what tortures me...

Many trains to come.

 Some speed up, some slow down...

If you pay attention long enough you will begin to figure out which is which.

sure but by then it's too late, you miss the train 

[shmadz]

Don't mind me. I'm just pissed I missed the train. I bet there's rich folks eating in fancy dining cars. They're probably drinkin' coffee and smoking big cigars.

...

And that's what tortures me...

Many trains to come.

 Some speed up, some slow down...

If you pay attention long enough you will begin to figure out which is which.

sure but by then it's too late, you miss the train  

If you're paying attention you can catch the next one.

** for example, if/when bitcoin dies, I expect there will be several coins competing to take that spot as the world reserve crypto - the one coin that everything else trades against. You don't even need to identify it specifically, you just need to recognize the 4 or 5 alternatives that might take the crown.

Back testing - go back a couple years to the eth crowd sale. Take 20% of your bitcoin total and divest it evenly into the top 4 contenders for dominance at that time. It doesn't matter if 3 out of those 4 fail, as long as you got at least some small amount into the one that survives. In this example it's ETH. 0.0005 at the opening, now worth ~0.035 ! That's like 70X return on that small side bet. Even if all your other bets fail, it just takes that one to pay off...

 (If none of the alts survive, then that's good too. That means probably it was bitcoin that survived and your main holdings are still in bitcoin, you've just spent 20% hedging your bet.)

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[adamstgBit]

poll reset

also, i insist everyone place a vote on this poll too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1393827.0

[yefi]

the funny thing is, you can already short if you want at POLO, but nobody is using it. ETH lending rates are still very low.

Any good trader will want to wait for confirmation to short. Doing so now would be either genius or stupidity.

[adamstgBit]

the funny thing is, you can already short if you want at POLO, but nobody is using it. ETH lending rates are still very low.

Any good trader will want to wait for confirmation to short. Doing so now would be either genius or stupidity.

geniuses sell on mondays 

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[Hunyadi]

crazy, but nice to see that BTC is able to hold its ground

+1

It's pretty much rock solid in spite of some fairly large splashes from eth.

seems to be fresh fiat thats driving ETH, otherwise it could have been really ugly.

Are you sure it's fresh fiat that drives ETH? I think it's just the same traders selling and rebuying, shorting, getting margin called etc.

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[8up]

crazy, but nice to see that BTC is able to hold its ground

+1

It's pretty much rock solid in spite of some fairly large splashes from eth.

seems to be fresh fiat thats driving ETH, otherwise it could have been really ugly.

Are you sure it's fresh fiat that drives ETH? I think it's just the same traders selling and rebuying, shorting, getting margin called etc.

Total market cap of all crypto-currencies (BTW the only chart that really matters vs. FIAT)


you can clearly see, that since December bitcoin and altcoin markets are decoupled!


just for fun:

ETH is on its way to $30 > Bitcoin will fork ($400) > invested money in ETH will shift to Bitcoin ($800) > ETH will come back to $5

Edit: time frame is Q2 - after that we'll see a crypto bubble ETH $50 / BTC $3500

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[podyx]

Wow, ETH is still performing...

[Andre#]

Of course, you have a right to post in response to whatever you like, and you certainly have plenty of companions in this same thread, in many other forum threads and in redit/bitcoin whining, exaggerating and spreading the same kinds of misinformation about the same topic.  


In my thinking it rises to the level of whining because it appears to be deceptive in a variety of ways.

Many of you goofballs engage in all kinds of fancy dancing in order to describe various scares about technical issues that don't really exist because when push comes to shove, you are not really concerned about technical issues (at least those who really understand the matter) but instead just want to whine, whine and whine and you want to insist on a hardfork or some other governance matter, which is really about disrupting while at the same time blaming the other side rather than attempts at resolution of potential technicalities in a reasonable and responsible manner.  

Possibly, half of you are paid shills, another 1/3 are misinformed or super emotional.  If these supposed technical matters had been presented continuously, argued and evidence set forth as a technical issue, then possibly there may have been some attempt at resolution, but based on the much illogical insistence on hard forks and other blackmailing attempts, i get the sense that technicalities continue to be exaggerated, which seems to be the case whenever looking into any details or evidence in support of technical block limit problem matters.  

Furthermore, the next move after seeing multiple flaws in the overall technical arguments, trolls like you tend to want to drag the topic into the weeds in order to distract and divert, when in the end all you seem to want is a hardfork (which gets us back to governance rather than real and concrete technical matters regarding possible problems with  the current blocksize limits).

I didn't expect you to resort to name calling after running out of arguments. I guess I overestimated you.

Goodnight.

I don't really consider my comments to you as name calling.  I believe that I am just describing the dynamic that causes me to wonder why people seem to be get so worked up in arms regarding this whole matter because it remains very deceptive in its appearance in the pushing of XT and Classic that are something other than they appear to be.

It's quite remarkable that a moderator deleted my "O really?" reply to this post (with the names I was being called marked bold in the above text) for being off-topic, but didn't remove this one I was replying to. Baffling.

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[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Of course, you have a right to post in response to whatever you like, and you certainly have plenty of companions in this same thread, in many other forum threads and in redit/bitcoin whining, exaggerating and spreading the same kinds of misinformation about the same topic.  


In my thinking it rises to the level of whining because it appears to be deceptive in a variety of ways.

Many of you goofballs engage in all kinds of fancy dancing in order to describe various scares about technical issues that don't really exist because when push comes to shove, you are not really concerned about technical issues (at least those who really understand the matter) but instead just want to whine, whine and whine and you want to insist on a hardfork or some other governance matter, which is really about disrupting while at the same time blaming the other side rather than attempts at resolution of potential technicalities in a reasonable and responsible manner.  

Possibly, half of you are paid shills, another 1/3 are misinformed or super emotional.  If these supposed technical matters had been presented continuously, argued and evidence set forth as a technical issue, then possibly there may have been some attempt at resolution, but based on the much illogical insistence on hard forks and other blackmailing attempts, i get the sense that technicalities continue to be exaggerated, which seems to be the case whenever looking into any details or evidence in support of technical block limit problem matters.  

Furthermore, the next move after seeing multiple flaws in the overall technical arguments, trolls like you tend to want to drag the topic into the weeds in order to distract and divert, when in the end all you seem to want is a hardfork (which gets us back to governance rather than real and concrete technical matters regarding possible problems with  the current blocksize limits).

I didn't expect you to resort to name calling after running out of arguments. I guess I overestimated you.

Goodnight.

I don't really consider my comments to you as name calling.  I believe that I am just describing the dynamic that causes me to wonder why people seem to be get so worked up in arms regarding this whole matter because it remains very deceptive in its appearance in the pushing of XT and Classic that are something other than they appear to be.

It's quite remarkable that a moderator deleted my "O really?" reply to this post (with the names I was being called marked bold in the above text) for being off-topic, but didn't remove this one I was replying to. Baffling.

It's always funny to me to see the moderators randomly fumble around this monkey house of a thread.