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March 03, 2017, 04:16:57 PM Last edit: March 03, 2017, 04:42:22 PM by Lauda |
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Same with Dutch papers, they keep warning uss from all those ''criminals'' using Bitcoin ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) . That is bullshit and this 'China' fueling the price rise is also pure bullshit. Looks like the mass media have completely lost it and will spew up any kind of fake stupidity. Irony: http://www.activistpost.com/2017/03/megabank-caught-laundering-terrorists-drug-cartels-feds-keeping-secret.htmlBtw Lauda, youre not a mod anymore, how is that possible? I always felt save under youre protection.
The less question you ask around here, the better. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) -snip- All is well in Bitcoinland... currently $1268USD at Bitcoinaverage.
It's almost hard to believe that a couple of days ago we were worrying about things like ATHs and gold ounce parity. Now we take them for granted.
Onward and upward. Go Bitcoin go.
Jimbo we both know that even though we want this rocket to fly high, for it to be healthy it has to hover around the same 'height' for a while. As said I'd like it to be a tad above $1250 for a few days at least.
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March 03, 2017, 04:37:54 PM |
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Funny ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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ahahahahaha: "i think that 50/50 is probably a pretty good guess" in terms: "I HAVE NO IDEA" what an dumbass...
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March 03, 2017, 05:12:45 PM Last edit: March 03, 2017, 05:39:08 PM by Torque |
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Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF. They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market. Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes. Very bullish. Hope they archive it soon. https://www.bloomberg.com/live/usB...but weren't we told yesterday that all media is evil and they just ridicule Bitcoin and say its all a big hoax? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Just jokin... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Here's another choice one from Bloomberg. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/bitcoin-is-now-worth-more-than-goldNotice the main title: "Bitcoin Soars to a Record High"Sounds really positive for a change, right? Then looks what slaps in the face you next. The subtitle: "How long can this rally last? After a peak in 2013, bitcoin fell 53 percent."They make sure to pepper the negatives right away, and throughout the articles. They want to make sure Average Joe is scared shitless to stay away. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) People don't realize that Bitcoin is not just the Next Big Thing. (Aka a fad that will sooner or later die off) It is the Forever Big Thing. That will keep on getting bigger.
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March 03, 2017, 06:13:11 PM |
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March 03, 2017, 06:17:26 PM |
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Bitcoin was on Bloomberg live TV about 15 minutes ago, interviewing some guy about the ETF. They weren't sure if the Winklevoss twins would use their own coin or have to buy more on the open market. Whatever the case, they said there's going to be a huge run on Bitcoin in the event the SEC passes. Very bullish. Hope they archive it soon. https://www.bloomberg.com/live/usB...but weren't we told yesterday that all media is evil and they just ridicule Bitcoin and say its all a big hoax? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Just jokin... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Here's another choice one from Bloomberg. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-03/bitcoin-is-now-worth-more-than-goldNotice the main title: "Bitcoin Soars to a Record High"Sounds really positive for a change, right? Then looks what slaps in the face you next. The subtitle: "How long can this rally last? After a peak in 2013, bitcoin fell 53 percent."They make sure to pepper the negatives right away, and throughout the articles. They want to make sure Average Joe is scared shitless to stay away. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) People don't realize that Bitcoin is not just the Next Big Thing. (Aka a fad that will sooner or later die off) It is the Forever Big Thing. That will keep on getting bigger. Don't worry in the end the truth will always be outed. In other words no matter how much the press/media try to influence the general public, in the end when everyone is boarding the train they will be the first to say it is the best thing since sliced bread
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March 03, 2017, 06:46:06 PM |
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How does it feel like to be part of History in the making? Seeing the dreams of 2011 come true is priceless. 1 bitcoin will always be worth ONE bitcoin If you know what I mean ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 03, 2017, 07:13:46 PM |
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Pretty interesting article on what the bankers have been attempting over the last 45 years. Apparently they've spent this entire time trying to demonetize gold and force SDR notes on people while forbidding other CBs from purchasing gold at all, yet China and Russian CBs are both buying it by the boatload now. They've been working on trying to force this completely top down controlled "cashless" monetary system devoid of real money longer than people imagine. If you attempt to buy or use gold as a CB, you become an enemy of the Zionist monetary regime run by the IMF and BIS, and they use their military arm (the Zionist occupied United States) to attack you: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4ZYXp7f.png&t=665&c=CbTe30nY6YtUIA)
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How does it feel like to be part of History in the making? Seeing the dreams of 2011 come true is priceless. 1 bitcoin will always be worth ONE bitcoin If you know what I mean ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If 11.5 million bitcoin are sent to 1EatBitcoinForBreakfastYumYum then 1 bitcoin is worth 2 bitcoin because supply was cut in half. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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March 03, 2017, 07:37:52 PM |
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Pretty interesting article on what the bankers have been attempting over the last 45 years. Apparently they've spent this entire time trying to demonetize gold and force SDR notes on people while forbidding other CBs from purchasing gold at all, yet China and Russian CBs are both buying it by the boatload now. They've been working on trying to force this completely top down controlled "cashless" monetary system devoid of real money longer than people imagine. If you attempt to buy or use gold as a CB, you become an enemy of the Zionist monetary regime run by the IMF and BIS, and they use their military arm (the Zionist occupied United States) to attack you:
just read an article about all that no wonder Nixon was hammered always follow the money, who gets hurt when their profits tumble and the laws change to suit them, never for the public tin foil hat conspiracy only when solar cells were profitable to big industry do we see emission schemes and carbon tax. When we stop the destruction of land and water, which is the most critical part to clean air, our environment will recover (is the climate change agenda to support big industry first under the guise of clean energy and climate change?) how does one know these days this can be applied to bitcoin as well, banks foresee the loss of profit from bitcoin and attack it with laws under the guise of terrorism you could apply this approach to all democratic propaganda thrown at the public under the guise of doing what is right for the public. its not always true but in many cases it does benefit banks and big industry, you may find a disgusting tale of ensuring the public is afflicted to extort their wealth
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March 03, 2017, 07:42:30 PM Last edit: March 03, 2017, 08:12:50 PM by jbreher |
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I'm disappointed. Jbreher is like the smartest of you apes and this was a pretty feeble attempt at trying to portray bitcoin as having traits of money equal or better than metals: The fact that bitcoin can be so called "upgraded", which really just means changed, means it's not anti-fragile by default.
On this point, you minsunderstand the definition of anti-fragile. By definition, in order to be anti-fragile, a thing must be able to evolve. No, it does not. Money is supposed to be boring - it's not supposed to "evolve" ... Jeebus - now you're copy-pasting across subs? OK, I'll play along, and copy-paste my reply from where it belongs over to here where you insisted on dragging it: Stay on point. I did not say 'money needs to be able to evolve', I said that the definition of 'anti-fragile' necessarily is imbued with the ability to evolve. You can claim that something needs to be unchanging if you want. While I disagree with you on this point, it is not a conversation I wish to carry out with you. You have a lot of monetary ideas which I think are just plain wrong, but they are axiomatic to you, and I don't care to tilt against that windmill. However, when you appropriate a defined term, and claim a use for it exactly opposite of its accepted definition -- such as your misappropriation of anti-fragile -- you can expect to get called out on it.
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I'm disappointed. Jbreher is like the smartest of you apes and this was a pretty feeble attempt at trying to portray bitcoin as having traits of money equal or better than metals: The fact that bitcoin can be so called "upgraded", which really just means changed, means it's not anti-fragile by default.
On this point, you minsunderstand the definition of anti-fragile. By definition, in order to be anti-fragile, a thing must be able to evolve. No, it does not. Money is supposed to be boring - it's not supposed to "evolve" ... Jeebus - now you're copy-pasting across subs? OK, I'll play along, and copy-paste my reply from where it belongs over to here where you insisted on draging it: Stay on point. I did not say 'money needs to be able to evolve', I said that the definition of 'anti-fragile' necessarily is imbued with the ability to evolve. You can claim that something needs to be unchanging if you want. While I disagree with you on this point, it is not a conversation I wish to carry out with you. You have a lot of monetary ideas which I think are just plain wrong, but they are axiomatic to you, and I don't care to tilt against that windmill. However, when you appropriate a defined term, and claim a use for it exactly opposite of its accepted definition -- such as your misappropriation of anti-fragile -- you can expect to get called out on it. the most amazing thing about bitcoin is you can build on top of it, create all manner of apps, applications, programming to incorporate a secure ledger into financial and business operations. thus ensuring bitcoin does evolve yet remains the same in essence there is no need for a strongly tested financial network to evolve but yet can evolve with external systems this is what i love about bitcoin
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March 03, 2017, 08:09:17 PM |
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such as your misappropriation of anti-fragile
Again, my response to that: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.msg18053760#msg18053760and my reply to the bogus reddit chart some guy posted that lies about all traits of bitcoin in order to try and pump and dump it lol: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fqx0imom87%2FTraits_Of_Money.png&t=665&c=G_86YmjNsZDVew) You posted a reddit propaganda chart that flat out lies and claims bitcoin is fungible, not to mention the part about "secure", "durable" and "decentralized" are not even a given. And how does the rough consensus attack play into scarcity? That chart was clearly created solely to try and pump and dump bitcoin and not for any type of education.
Someone is also probably going to claim "you can't destroy bitcoin with a hammer so it's durable!". Bitcoin requires a positive energy input to exist at all. How is that durable? It's essentially a living organism and all living things die. Bitcoin is a screen door standing in the way of the truck known as entropy to be run over and scattered to the wind, while things like gold are more entropy resistant (but not proof). And that is why one is money and one is only a currency. Money is supposed to be boring and not mutate into something else or cease to exist at random.
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If I read your reply correctly, you are essentially claiming 'language changes, so I get to be the one who changes it'. I reply: no, you don't. Anti-fragility by definition requires the ability to evolve. If not, then 'anti-fragile' would be a redundant synonym for 'non-fragile'. and my reply to the bogus reddit chart some guy posted that lies about all traits of bitcoin in order to try and pump and dump it lol:
Different conversation altogether.
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If I read your reply correctly, you are essentially claiming 'language changes, so I get to be the one who changes it'. I reply: no, you don't. Anti-fragility by definition requires the ability to evolve. If not, then 'anti-fragile' would be a redundant synonym for 'non-fragile'. Again, I consider "anti-fragile" mostly just a made up slogan in the first place that people try to attach an arbitrary definition to. You claim I didn't use the word correctly then forgot to mention that it was popularized by people in bitcoin who also have never used the word correctly in the first place. If everyone uses the word in a completely different colloquial manner, then that definition usually takes over. Anyway, who cares, it was a term popularized by people trying to pump and dump bitcoin and claiming it's as sturdy and durable as gold when it's not.
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sorry if this has already been posted... found on Reddit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The March 11 date came about because it is 180 days from the publication of the proposed BATS rule change in the Federal Register - there can be no more 45 or 90 day delays - SEC must approve or reject, with no decision = acceptance (Rule 19, Sec Exch Act of 1934)...
But look at how time periods for publications in the Federal Register are calculated pursuant to 1 CFR 18.17(b):
"Dates certain will be computed by counting the day after the publication day as one, and by counting each succeeding day, including Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. However, where the final count would fall on a Saturday, Sunday, or holiday, the date certain will be the next succeeding Federal business day."
That would put us at Monday, March 13 for the deadline. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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sorry if this has already been posted... found on Reddit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The March 11 date came about because it is 180 days from the publication of the proposed BATS rule change in the Federal Register - there can be no more 45 or 90 day delays - SEC must approve or reject, with no decision = acceptance (Rule 19, Sec Exch Act of 1934)...
But look at how time periods for publications in the Federal Register are calculated pursuant to 1 CFR 18.17(b):
"Dates certain will be computed by counting the day after the publication day as one, and by counting each succeeding day, including Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays. However, where the final count would fall on a Saturday, Sunday, or holiday, the date certain will be the next succeeding Federal business day."
That would put us at Monday, March 13 for the deadline. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
That's a pertinent bit of detective work. We were speculating why they made the last possible decision day a Saturday. It seemed strange considering they don't work on Saturdays. Now we know why. The meeting is 11 of March right? That means we have exactly 2 weeks from now. Is this normal for USA to hold such meetings on Suturday? it's working day?? and result will be same day or need also wait?
That's the decision deadline. There's no associated meeting. They might already have made up their minds. Falling on a Saturday is a bit of a weird move indeed. I've read elsewhere that no ETF has ever passed by doing nothing, which is what some people are expecting here, and there's no way something so new and complex would pass like that either. We'll know either way before that Saturday I expect.
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