Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[york780]

Not yet ---> https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/ST356mvt-03062334-BITCOIN-BE-PREPARED/


Dont let them trap you !

York saves you again

[Torque]

In the hopes we can start an actual dialog and quit throwing insults at each other:

BU does not want a contentious fork.  It is just a tool to allow larger blocks without requiring the blessing of self-appointed bitcoin priests.  Miners will only utilize the tool when the market is ready to have larger blocks.  They are not dumb enough to shoot themselves in the foot.  There is no magic threshold that will trigger a hard fork.

If you actually want to understand BU and not just parrot the unfounded attacks on it, check out the BU subfourm on the forum where the idea was hatched back in 2015: https://bitco.in/forum/forums/bitcoin-unlimited.15/

Start threads, ask questions, find out what BU actually is.  If you are right that is is bad, you'll be able to attack it much better once you understand it.

I like how people that have no control over a hard fork like to challenge other folks that don't have any control over a hard fork to endless debate.  Makes total sense, right?

[MinermanNC]

This is hilarious, BU etc. all I know is what ever Bitcoin is taking away Alt coins are giving back  hasn't been this good since early last year 

[Holliday]

I like how people that have no control over a hard fork like to challenge other folks that don't have any control over a hard fork to endless debate.  Makes total sense, right?

Endless debate passes the time when the exchange rate is dropping hard and fast!

Also, any of us could be mining pool operators, couldn't we?

[notme]

In the hopes we can start an actual dialog and quit throwing insults at each other:

C'mon! Stop talking BS and fork it!
If you don't, just STFU!

I guess you missed the part about BU doesn't want a contentious fork.  I would be very happy if we could all STFU about BU, but people keep saying that BU wants to fork without consensus, which is an utter lie.

[Killerpotleaf]

price is dropping?

better login and debate this
 once and for all

[Killerpotleaf]

will it drop again, or should i just go all in now?

[Ted E. Bare]

BU does not want a contentious fork.  It is just a tool to allow larger blocks without requiring the blessing of self-appointed bitcoin priests.  Miners will only utilize the tool when the market is ready to have larger blocks.  They are not dumb enough to shoot themselves in the foot.  There is no magic threshold that will trigger a hard fork.

If you actually want to understand BU and not just parrot the unfounded attacks on it, check out the BU subfourm on the forum where the idea was hatched back in 2015: https://bitco.in/forum/forums/bitcoin-unlimited.15/

Start threads, ask questions, find out what BU actually is.  If you are right that is is bad, you'll be able to attack it much better once you understand it.

Finally a realistic reply concerning the scaling debate. Thank you!

I also have been saying there is no fork planned. FUD and misunderstandings have contributed to this excessive dump.
Well, hooray for cheap coins I guess...

Adam congratulations for buying at the bottom.

[bitserve]

In the hopes we can start an actual dialog and quit throwing insults at each other:

C'mon! Stop talking BS and fork it!
If you don't, just STFU!

I guess you missed the part about BU doesn't want a contentious fork.  I would be very happy if we could all STFU about BU, but people keep saying that BU wants to fork without consensus, which is an utter lie.

BU doesn't want to fork without consensus? Great, everything is ok then.... except that's not what many BU supporters are saying.

Also... when we talk about consensus? Are we talking about 95% consensus or which percentage? <- This is the most fundamental point.

[chopstick]

def going under 1k. At some point. Possibly soon.

Eth likely to hit $100+ this year.

[MinermanNC]

I'm not selling any BTC till we see 1200 again.

And I'm sure we will soon. There's a lot of hoopla going on for nothing lol

[notme]

In the hopes we can start an actual dialog and quit throwing insults at each other:

C'mon! Stop talking BS and fork it!
If you don't, just STFU!

I guess you missed the part about BU doesn't want a contentious fork.  I would be very happy if we could all STFU about BU, but people keep saying that BU wants to fork without consensus, which is an utter lie.

BU doesn't want to fork without consensus? Great, everything is ok then.... except that's not what many BU supporters are saying.

Also... when we talk about consensus? Are we talking about 95% consensus or which percentage? <- This is the most fundamental point.

Which BU supporters?  Can you provide any links?  I've only seen this claim from people who are running around screaming about BU being evil, which makes since if they actually believe that BU actually wants to fracture bitcoin.

[MinermanNC]

def going under 1k. At some point. Possibly soon.

Eth likely to hit $100+ this year.

Yes on ETH but not so sure we'll dip below 1k... 

I think we will see a major alt really step out on to the stage this year... perhaps ETH? but I wouldn't bet on it lol

[Killerpotleaf]

In the hopes we can start an actual dialog and quit throwing insults at each other:

C'mon! Stop talking BS and fork it!
If you don't, just STFU!

I guess you missed the part about BU doesn't want a contentious fork.  I would be very happy if we could all STFU about BU, but people keep saying that BU wants to fork without consensus, which is an utter lie.

BU doesn't want to fork without consensus? Great, everything is ok then.... except that's not what many BU supporters are saying.

Also... when we talk about consensus? Are we talking about 95% consensus or which percentage? <- This is the most fundamental point.

if core would drop its 75% discounted block weight thing and instead do a simple 2MB limit + segwit

we would have 100% consensus, with 2 3(lets not forget classic's 1%) different implementations on the network.

[chopstick]

Yes, but Core has decided that any blocksize increase at all is bad.

1mb for evah.

They might as well get it tattooed.

[bitserve]

In the hopes we can start an actual dialog and quit throwing insults at each other:

C'mon! Stop talking BS and fork it!
If you don't, just STFU!

I guess you missed the part about BU doesn't want a contentious fork.  I would be very happy if we could all STFU about BU, but people keep saying that BU wants to fork without consensus, which is an utter lie.

BU doesn't want to fork without consensus? Great, everything is ok then.... except that's not what many BU supporters are saying.

Also... when we talk about consensus? Are we talking about 95% consensus or which percentage? <- This is the most fundamental point.

Which BU supporters?  Can you provide any links?  I've only seen this claim from people who are running around screaming about BU being evil, which makes since if they actually believe that BU actually wants to fracture bitcoin.

No, not links that I can remember now... in fact i am talking mostly from comments read here and in twitter/reddit that were suppossedly from BU supporters (in the line of "if it has to be a contentious hard fork, so be it").

Also, please correct me if I am wrong, but... If BU were "happily" running in 51% of the Bitcoin network AND the majority of those miners decided to rise the blocksize... Wouldn't that mean an incoming contentious hard fork would happen?

[Biodom]

I'm not selling any BTC till we see 1200 again.

And I'm sure we will soon. There's a lot of hoopla going on for nothing lol

thanks...putting a sell order in at $1199.99  

def going under 1k. At some point. Possibly soon.

Eth likely to hit $100+ this year.

no, it will not go above 30% in market cap (90% probability in my opinion) OR flip all the way (10%).

[Torque]

Eth likely to hit $100+ this year.

[sugarbaby]

The house is on fire...
...new altcoin will be born but ...stronger chain will win.

...what times to be on!

[Torque]

when this bitch is done we might not need bigger blocks 

Don't worry, the dumper will be out of coins @ ~$1000.