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July 23, 2017, 01:14:57 PM

2247 Unconfirmed Transactions <- Is that a record low in quite some time?

Have anyone checked the balances of the well known exchange wallets to get an idea of what percentage of coins have been withdrawn? I don't think it is a huge percentage, just a feeling....

P.S.: Wow 939 Unconfirmed Transactions .... Basically we are up to date...

"Spam the network" ended a few weeks ago, where have you been?

haha, donno, last time I checked it was around 10.000-20.000 which was a low enough number and obviously the spam had already ceased. But seeing it go to almost cero after each block... wow.
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July 23, 2017, 01:20:40 PM

Greed gets them all in the end
In my case ignorance will leave me, I'm a little bit lost now
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July 23, 2017, 01:30:16 PM

2247 Unconfirmed Transactions <- Is that a record low in quite some time?

0 transaction in mempool.

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July 23, 2017, 01:56:48 PM

Malicious mining cartel isn't good for anybody. We need Luke to threaten another POW change. That always helps.
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July 23, 2017, 01:58:24 PM

2247 Unconfirmed Transactions <- Is that a record low in quite some time?

0 transaction in mempool.



Lol so 1Mb blocks are big enough then!!!
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July 23, 2017, 02:08:15 PM

without malicious eunuchs, yes & then some
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July 23, 2017, 02:11:38 PM

Yep ... less than 1Mb  Grin





And pretty volumes for a day of end of week + 2016 blocks warning in action.




Canadian Exchanges are ... high !

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July 23, 2017, 02:21:39 PM

Malicious mining cartel isn't good for anybody. We need Luke to threaten another POW change. That always helps.

It is my opinion that a PoW change should be devised, engineered, tested and put in the code ready to activate. Activation should not involve any kind of miner support, of course. It should on the contrary assume miners will fight back.

The new PoW should have suitable tweakable parameters. Certain choices for parameter values would basically leave the PoW as it is, and other choices would be more disruptive. There should be signaling to get a feel for the available hashpower with different PoW's/parameter choices.

If the machinery works well enough, this could become the weapon that will never have to be used.
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July 23, 2017, 02:41:55 PM

Malicious mining cartel isn't good for anybody. We need Luke to threaten another POW change. That always helps.

It is my opinion that a PoW change should be devised, engineered, tested and put in the code ready to activate. Activation should not involve any kind of miner support, of course. It should on the contrary assume miners will fight back.

The new PoW should have suitable tweakable parameters. Certain choices for parameter values would basically leave the PoW as it is, and other choices would be more disruptive. There should be signaling to get a feel for the available hashpower with different PoW's/parameter choices.

If the machinery works well enough, this could become the weapon that will never have to be used.

A POW change needs to be kept secret until released, this prevents pre-prepared attacks from malicious miners, and an ASIC head start.
LukeJr has already completed a POW change, where the hashing algorithm can be changed at the last minute. But POW change has got to be a last resort, it opens the network up to all kinds of abuse, many of the enemies have very deep pockets.   







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July 23, 2017, 02:48:34 PM

Can someone explain me what is happening right now...? I am
Confused  Huh Huh


I see poeple are saying that bip141 is not good for btc And even bip91 is locked in..

There is still a big big chance of splitting btc on 2 coins..

Thanks for your explination
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July 23, 2017, 02:51:32 PM

Can someone explain me what is happening right now...? I am
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I see poeple are saying that bip141 is not good for btc And even bip91 is locked in..

There is still a big big chance of splitting btc on 2 coins..

Thanks for your explination

A chain split is inevitable at this point. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) You don't have to do anything except pray.
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July 23, 2017, 03:01:39 PM

Malicious mining cartel isn't good for anybody. We need Luke to threaten another POW change. That always helps.

It is my opinion that a PoW change should be devised, engineered, tested and put in the code ready to activate. Activation should not involve any kind of miner support, of course. It should on the contrary assume miners will fight back.

The new PoW should have suitable tweakable parameters. Certain choices for parameter values would basically leave the PoW as it is, and other choices would be more disruptive. There should be signaling to get a feel for the available hashpower with different PoW's/parameter choices.

If the machinery works well enough, this could become the weapon that will never have to be used.

A POW change needs to be kept secret until released, this prevents pre-prepared attacks from malicious miners, and an ASIC head start.

Not necessarily. The parameters might be coefficients in a linear combination of probability/frequency distribution for several algos. Good luck designing an ASIC that can do all of them. Besides, a RAM-hungry algo makes ASICs economically nonviable. It could be one of the several algos, just to enforce mining by non-specialized hardware with a specified frequency.

By the way, wouldn't a sudden unannounced PoW change freeze BTC for days?

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LukeJr has already completed a POW change, where the hashing algorithm can be changed at the last minute. But POW change has got to be a last resort, it opens the network up to all kinds of abuse, many of the enemies have very deep pockets.  

It seems to me that the mere threat of a PoW change ready to trigger might be as effective, without being so disruptive - as long as it's only crouching. I guess it would drive an ASIC designer nuts to assess the production and stocking of several board types which would possibly lie unsold until forever.

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July 23, 2017, 03:06:04 PM

Can someone explain me what is happening right now...? I am
Confused  Huh Huh


I see poeple are saying that bip141 is not good for btc And even bip91 is locked in..

There is still a big big chance of splitting btc on 2 coins..

Thanks for your explination

A chain split is inevitable at this point. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) You don't have to do anything except pray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzDmVwI2JY
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July 23, 2017, 03:07:22 PM

https://www.btcforkmonitor.info/ useful
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July 23, 2017, 03:09:07 PM

Can someone explain me what is happening right now...? I am
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I see poeple are saying that bip141 is not good for btc And even bip91 is locked in..

There is still a big big chance of splitting btc on 2 coins..

Thanks for your explination

A chain split is inevitable at this point. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) You don't have to do anything except pray.

Where are you getting this from? Why are you absolutely sure there will be a chain split? Or are you just fudding?
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July 23, 2017, 03:11:05 PM

2247 Unconfirmed Transactions <- Is that a record low in quite some time?

Have anyone checked the balances of the well known exchange wallets to get an idea of what percentage of coins have been withdrawn? I don't think it is a huge percentage, just a feeling....

P.S.: Wow 939 Unconfirmed Transactions .... Basically we are up to date...

yes and I noticed blocks are no longer full for quite some time now.

I wonder if all those 'spam' transactions that were being used to jam up the network but got dumped when the mempool was overflowing are recorded on some device somewhere waiting to get periodically rebroadcast and can now be mined for fees?

That's an interesting idea. Besides having those tx's recorded somwhere, they should have to check before if the inputs have already been spent, or the transaction was already passed into blockchain or risk the entire block being rejected (a $35.000 mistake) but.... seems plausible.

I wonder if the fact that all miners have been rebooting their nodes almost all at once (to do the necessary upgrades) have had some effect on clearing the mempool. I do supposse the mempool may have some replicating capacity (I really donno) but maybe it have had an impact?
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July 23, 2017, 03:12:45 PM

Can someone explain me what is happening right now...? I am
Confused  Huh Huh


I see poeple are saying that bip141 is not good for btc And even bip91 is locked in..

There is still a big big chance of splitting btc on 2 coins..

Thanks for your explination

A chain split is inevitable at this point. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) You don't have to do anything except pray.

Where are you getting this from? Why are you absolutely sure there will be a chain split? Or are you just fudding?

I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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July 23, 2017, 03:14:34 PM

ViaBTC wanting to fork off an altcoin at the worst possible moment does NOT imply a chain split.

It's just another altcoin. Nothing to see here.

They decided to fork on a freeze of the Bitcoin blockchain? Cool, thanks for that, I will use those BCC wisely.
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July 23, 2017, 03:16:49 PM

ViaBTC wanting to fork off an altcoin at the worst possible moment does NOT imply a chain split.

It's just another altcoin. Nothing to see here.

Horse hockey!
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A chain split is inevitable at this point. (Correct me if I'm wrong.) You don't have to do anything except pray.

wrong. a chain split has been averted. an alt is being created.
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