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https://medium.com/@Zero404Cool/trezor-security-glitches-reveal-your-private-keys-761eeab03ff8
trezor wallet is hacked ,hope everyone's bitcoin not be stolen

Yesterday, they sent a mail about this and a firmware update. They state that the device must be physically opened... . ?

Until the risk is fully understood, I think a sensible precaution would be to protect your device.
For me that means not carrying it around and leaving it in my bag.

[steelboy]

https://medium.com/@Zero404Cool/trezor-security-glitches-reveal-your-private-keys-761eeab03ff8
trezor wallet is hacked ,hope everyone's bitcoin not be stolen

Yesterday, they sent a mail about this and a firmware update. They state that the device must be physically opened... . ?

Until the risk is fully understood, I think a sensible precaution would be to protect your device.
For me that means not carrying it around and leaving it in my bag.

Maybe only carry it internally until the issue has been resolved. 

[Heater]

Here is my price prediction: $10,900 USD - the date will depend on the mania levels. It could possibly happen in this run up, maybe the next one. Anything under this number is good value. If it overshoots - sell.

I based this number on the average operating expense of Paypal, Visa & Mastercard (7.1b) divided by the annual new coin supply. In other words, miner expenses.

After the next halving, the prediction doubles.

I have spoken.

[Last of the V8s]

come on, china. you can do it, some of you can now become sovereign individuals - think warlord, think king
you just need to buy bitcoins

[Elwar]

So we kicked out the idea of a double top and opened up a cup and handle.

This means moon for sure.

I predict a lot of resistance at $6666.

[orpington]

30000 CNY lots of resistance

[Last of the V8s]

hmm theymos' organ went down

it used to when they wanted to crash the price

now it seems they attack it when they want a little ath action

[Torque]

[Mrpumperitis]

https://www.segwetters.org/

[Elwar]

https://www.segwetters.org/

Classy.

[Mrpumperitis]

https://www.segwetters.org/

Classy.

Honest?..i think so.

[bitserve]

Hi bitserve,

How is a paper wallet not protected if a pc is compromised?

Paper wallets are vulnerable at any of the following moments:

- When created: Private key generation vulnerability or PC compromised.
- When redeemed: PC compromised.

They are also vulnerable in case of physical compromise during storing.

It seems the security vuln in Trezor firmware would also require physical access plus a not so simple firmware update with a hacked firmware to get access to private key.

Anyone concerned about potential physical exploits should go Ledger way. The secure element is a great enhacement in that aspect.

[Torque]

https://www.segwetters.org/

Classy.

Honest?..i think so.

[r0ach]

Whoever thinks bitcoin can't be destroyed with ease when it's network traffic isn't even obfuscated should take a look at the case of The Daily Stormer, who big corporations have essentially censored it from the internet in a time span of two days:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

https://www.rferl.org/a/u-s-neo-nazi-website-russian-domain-daily-stormer/28680409.html

First they came for the nazis, but I didn't speak out, because I was not a nazi.

[Torque]

was it you that was happy about blockstream satellites? ,lols , if not ..sorry lol

a few yr down the rd when 3rd party segwitcoin needs funds for this (fake) idea...they will tax the network,
increase fees, charge for wallets or something else ...but hey its ok, cause blockstream are sending up satellites lol..more like lining their pockets  
ok 5yr ltr, we now sending a node to the moon, we need to raise fees again...10yr ltr , we sending a node to mars, ..guess what..higher fees lol
but its all gd...who wouldnt want nodes in space eh

Ok pal. So if you are so unhappy about it:

Instead of of bitching and crying about it here, why don't you get the fk off this sub forum, go to some BCash forum, and enjoy your crappie shitcoin clone with the 10 other shitcoin fanboys and b happy with your life?

Oh that's right, because trolls gotta troll. You guys just can't stand the thought of Bitcoin succeeding, can you? It's must really be burning you guys up. BCash is DOA, and your silly BCash forums are dead dead dead. No one cares.

Welcome to /ignore

[Mrpumperitis]

lols, no need for big text, i dont wear glasses.
WOA...did i touch a nerve or something....chill out and go learn about satellites, you'll be surprised at what you may find out 

[ghandi]

Whoever thinks bitcoin can't be destroyed with ease when it's network traffic isn't even obfuscated should take a look at the case of The Daily Stormer, who big corporations have essentially censored it from the internet in a time span of two days:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

https://www.rferl.org/a/u-s-neo-nazi-website-russian-domain-daily-stormer/28680409.html

First they came for the nazis, but I didn't speak out, because I was not a nazi.

You understand the technical differences between a server-based Hosting and DDoS Protection and a decentralized peer-to-peer Network?

[Elwar]

Whoever thinks bitcoin can't be destroyed with ease when it's network traffic isn't even obfuscated should take a look at the case of The Daily Stormer, who big corporations have essentially censored it from the internet in a time span of two days:

https://blog.cloudflare.com/why-we-terminated-daily-stormer/

https://www.rferl.org/a/u-s-neo-nazi-website-russian-domain-daily-stormer/28680409.html

First they came for the nazis, but I didn't speak out, because I was not a nazi.

You understand the technical differences between a server-based Hosting and DDoS Protection and a decentralized peer-to-peer Network?

It also highlights why Bitcoin is so important. Imagine if the jews had bitcoin during WWII.

[fluidjax]

Hi bitserve,

How is a paper wallet not protected if a pc is compromised?

Paper wallets are vulnerable at any of the following moments:

- When created: Private key generation vulnerability or PC compromised.
- When redeemed: PC compromised.

They are also vulnerable in case of physical compromise during storing.

It seems the security vuln in Trezor firmware would also require physical access plus a not so simple firmware update with a hacked firmware to get access to private key.

Anyone concerned about potential physical exploits should go Ledger way. The secure element is a great enhacement in that aspect.

Armory talks about lots of security issues in their glacier protocol
link to Glacier from https://www.bitcoinarmory.com

I have a clean laptop that never sees the internet or wifi, it's got  Amory installed, and creates transactions offline, these are broadcast from an online machine that I use for everyday things and it doesn't really matter if its compromised. (transfer transactions between machines using a USB stick)
You can create and redeem paper wallets with very nearly 100% safety,

[bitserve]

Hi bitserve,

How is a paper wallet not protected if a pc is compromised?

Paper wallets are vulnerable at any of the following moments:

- When created: Private key generation vulnerability or PC compromised.
- When redeemed: PC compromised.

They are also vulnerable in case of physical compromise during storing.

It seems the security vuln in Trezor firmware would also require physical access plus a not so simple firmware update with a hacked firmware to get access to private key.

Anyone concerned about potential physical exploits should go Ledger way. The secure element is a great enhacement in that aspect.

Armory talks about lots of security issues in their glacier protocol
link to Glacier from https://www.bitcoinarmory.com

I have a clean laptop that never sees the internet or wifi, it's got  Amory installed, and creates transactions offline, these are broadcast from an online machine that I use for everyday things and it doesn't really matter if its compromised. (transfer transactions between machines using a USB stick)
You can create and redeem paper wallets with very nearly 100% safety,

Well, that is somewhat safe. But I still don't see the advantage in security over a hardware wallet while I see the less convenience in usage.