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[jbreher]

Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2402558.msg24764984#msg24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Were you this excited about ETH? did you ride that flippening too?

No. And no. Quite frankly, Ethereum seems to me to be a token without a purpose. I cannot for the life of me fathom why anyone would pay more then seven cents for a coin whose inflation emission is in the sole purview of some immature idiot savant. Especially seeing as he destroyed its entire reason for being by violating the inviolable smart contracts. But let's not talk about Ethereum here - let's talk about Bitcoin.

Also, what's your professional involvement in monero?

I hold some. Well, by today's price, the man on the street would likely say I hold a lot. But it is a mere afterthought upon my Bitcoin holdings. But let's not talk about monero here - let's talk about Bitcoin.

you submitted code?

Not to any cryptocurrency projects.

how many alt pies you got your hands in exactly?

'Hands in'? Probably zero. I have minor holdings of a few others. Byteball. I've not yet claimed Clams, Bitcoin Gold (haha - I had to correct my forefinger, who wanted to type Bitcoin Fold), BitCore, or several others that looked like the claim process might reveal something. Namecoin. And a couple of shitcoins that I thought had an interesting enough angle that they might pump someday (still waiting and losing hope on those). I think that's (at least close to) it.

Why?

But let's not talk about altcoins here - let's talk about Bitcoin. Are we not concerned with Bitcoin in this thread? I am.

[jbreher]

Several more posts deleted.

Glad to see this crap deleted from this valuable thread... was about time cause IMO it's brazen to pollute this thread the way you did

Must keep the discussions free from deceiving propaganda.

If you believe anything I typed in those deleted posts was untrue, I invite you to the companion thread where I have reposted the deleted posts. Some with commentary on why I think they are legitimate by post #1 in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2402558.0

But I'm guessing you ain't got the balls for it. Or whatever the equivalent would be, should you be female.

[notme]

Yep, and those of us who were hodlers of both sides were labelled fools and shills.  You've got to be a special kind of cocky to think only one side of a contentious fork is valuable and that you can pick which side that is immediately after the fork.  Clearly there are people who value each path.  That's why it is contentious.

A contentious fork is something different. BCH was not launched as a result of a contentious fork, more like an altcoin with a shared tx history but with different parameters.

A major catalyst for BCH was segwit being forced down miners throats when less than the original threshold was in favor of it.

IIRC the code was rather clear that in case of less than X% miner adoption segwit wouldn't happen, with X being something like 90-95%... how is that "forcing" miners? Segwit only happened because the miners signaled in favor of it - even though some had a twist (2x) to it.

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0148.mediawiki

Support was at around 40 percent.  Then BIP-148 came along and threatened to disconnect any nodes that relayed blocks that were not signaling for segwit.  At that point, you either signal or stop mining, so miners signaled.  They were also encouraged by strong support (90%+) for the segwit2x agreement, which turned out to be a joke.

BCH forked off to avoid segwit and increase blocksize.  How is that not a contentious fork?

One morning Wu decided that if btc goes with segwit he will launch his altcoin. This is unilateral action. It's like me deciding that I want to launch bitcoin <another name here> for whatever reason. It's not an organic split like what happened, say, in ETH, where the devs proposed a change and some people stuck with the old chain where "code is law". There's a difference. Even Wu won't claim BCH is Bitcoin. He says it's something different. At least he's honest about it.

There is a very large community of bitcoiners besides Wu involved with BCH.  If you never venture out of bitcointalk.org or /r/bitcoin, I can't blame you for being blind to it.  Censorship tends to create echo chambers, to the detriment of the people in those chambers.  I never made the claim that BCH is Bitcoin.  Clearly that moniker is more closely associated with the Segwit chain.  But that may change with time.  My claim is that BCH is more closely aligned with Satoshi's whitepaper.  At 1MB and with 2 week difficulty adjustment, the segwit chain is much more fragile than BCH.  BCH's mempool has not ever seen backlog and now that the difficulty adjustment algorithm has been upgraded, blocks times are much more reliable than the segwit chain.

[jbreher]

Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2402558.msg24764984#msg24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Honestly? It's probably because you are a cash clown.

So you advocate banning because of interest, regardless of the actual posted content. Thank you for outing yourself as a petty tyrant.

I mean when my posts about biology and what that means for the jewish problem don't get deleted and yours do, what other conclusion could be reached? And I'm fine with that.

Yet the posts that are being deleted are not Bitcoin Cash oriented. Some of the deleted posts are focused exclusively upon Bitcoin Segwit.

Oh - one was a response to the Tesla Roadster. My Bad. Then again, the post that that one replied to is still up. Selective enforcement at its finest worst.

[jbreher]

That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT.

Latest? That allegation has been floating around for months. And rather than FUD, there seems to be quite a bit of evidence behind it. What with the promises of audits that never come, Bitfinex's hack loss leaving them insolvent and perhaps plucking 'money' out of thin air to capitalize itself, the terms of USDT, which essentially say 'if you own tether, you don't own doodly-squat'...

[Ibian]

Massive sales are normal. Massive mempool is not normal. The network is weak, needs upgrade.

May I ask, what is your native language ?

I would like to find a proper translation for "Fuck Off", that you may - more fully - appreciate.

Newbie has a point. Ten bucks a pop is too much.

[Ibian]

Several more posts deleted. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2402558.msg24764984#msg24764984

I sure wish @infofront would inform me of exactly what stated criteria I have run afoul of, while the posts to which I am replying somehow escape deletion.

Honestly? It's probably because you are a cash clown.

So you advocate banning because of interest, regardless of the actual posted content. Thank you for outing yourself as a petty tyrant.

I mean when my posts about biology and what that means for the jewish problem don't get deleted and yours do, what other conclusion could be reached? And I'm fine with that.

Yet the posts that are being deleted are not Bitcoin Cash oriented. Some of the deleted posts are focused exclusively upon Bitcoin Segwit.

Oh - one was a response to the Tesla Roadster. My Bad. Then again, the post that that one replied to is still up. Selective enforcement at its finest worst.

There is no middle ground in a war of this sort. It's bitcoin, or nothing of consequence. You have chosen your side. In other words, fuck off.

[bones261]

That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT.

Latest? That allegation has been floating around for months. And rather than FUD, there seems to be quite a bit of evidence behind it. What with the promises of audits that never come, Bitfinex's hack loss leaving them insolvent and perhaps plucking 'money' out of thin air to capitalize itself, the terms of USDT, which essentially say 'if you own tether, you don't own doodly-squat'...

Um nice to remove my qualifying statement in order to improve your argument.

I wouldn't put anything past Bitfinex. I haven't used them since the hack back in August 2016.

[jbreher]

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As Torque said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As (Torque?) said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

Make of this what you will...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.msg8974494#msg8974494
I'm not proud.

[jbreher]

There is no middle ground in a war of this sort. It's bitcoin, or nothing of consequence. You have chosen your side. In other words, fuck off.

OK for me, but not for thee, eh? Again, thank you for outing yourself as a petty tyrant. Hopefully, those that matter will at least give lip service to the concept of 'equal protection under the law'. I can only imagine that @infofront is trying to grease some irritating squeaky wheel that keeps whining at him to DO SOMETHING!!!!111!1! Perhaps with some introspection, infofront will do the right thing.














Oh yeah - fuck off yourself.

[jbreher]

That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT.

Latest? That allegation has been floating around for months. And rather than FUD, there seems to be quite a bit of evidence behind it. What with the promises of audits that never come, Bitfinex's hack loss leaving them insolvent and perhaps plucking 'money' out of thin air to capitalize itself, the terms of USDT, which essentially say 'if you own tether, you don't own doodly-squat'...

Um nice to remove my qualifying statement in order to improve your argument.

I wouldn't put anything past Bitfinex. I haven't used them since the hack back in August 2016.

Sorry - didn't realize you would have considered it inseparable. Apologies.

[cofefeGandalf]

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As (Torque?) said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

It's been "already too late to get in". Every since. Stopped preaching a long time ago.

[lightfoot]

M5: Don't buy a BMW, buy a good Porsche. I'd recommend the 928S4 for the best bang for the buck these days, fast as hell.

[HairyMaclairy]

Massive sales are normal. Massive mempool is not normal. The network is weak, needs upgrade.

May I ask, what is your native language ?

I would like to find a proper translation for "Fuck Off", that you may - more fully - appreciate.

My native language is language of Slush. Another question, darling?

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[jbreher]

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As (Torque?) said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

Make of this what you will...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.msg8974494#msg8974494
I'm not proud.

Meh. You're here now. Cool. Evidently, enough penetrated for you to retain some interest. Hell, due to my own foot-dragging, I missed out on most of the sub-dollar zone. Just because, despite being intrigued, I did not set enough time to truly look into it. It does seem fantastical at first exposure.

Or were you trying to send me a veiled message about deleted posts?

[HairyMaclairy]

Sadly it appears my limit order to low for the recent dip.  

It’s hard work this day trading.  All this lying around and sleeping and checking your limit orders every few hours.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I don't know about you, but psychologically this has been a very mixed bag for me. No one really wants anyone else to succeed, it seems. I think my lips are sealed going forward.

Back in 2011 - 2013, I really proselytized far and wide. I wanted everyone I knew to be able to take advantage of this new technology that was obviously going to change the way money works for all humanity. Free us all from the vampire squid.

But I took ridicule and abuse for my attempts. So my voice muted. Finally, I just stopped talking about it altogether.

As (Torque?) said a few posts back, you can lead a horse to water...

Make of this what you will...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.msg8974494#msg8974494
I'm not proud.

Meh. You're here now. Cool. Evidently, enough penetrated for you to retain some interest. Hell, due to my own foot-dragging, I missed out on most of the sub-dollar zone. Just because, despite being intrigued, I did not set enough time to truly look into it. It does seem fantastical at first exposure.

Or were you trying to send me a veiled message about deleted posts?

I hadn't even noticed the deleted posts. Lulz.
Anyway, I for one don't doubt your commitment to the cause, and I think the negative trust is total bullshit.
edit: But I'm a complete core tard now. So our kids can't have relations or anything. It just wan't meant to be.

[bones261]

That seems to be the latest FUD from the bears, that Bitfinex is creating funny money with USDT.

Latest? That allegation has been floating around for months. And rather than FUD, there seems to be quite a bit of evidence behind it. What with the promises of audits that never come, Bitfinex's hack loss leaving them insolvent and perhaps plucking 'money' out of thin air to capitalize itself, the terms of USDT, which essentially say 'if you own tether, you don't own doodly-squat'...

Um nice to remove my qualifying statement in order to improve your argument.

I wouldn't put anything past Bitfinex. I haven't used them since the hack back in August 2016.

Sorry - didn't realize you would have considered it inseparable. Apologies.

Yes, I do happen to believe that something is definitely amiss when it comes to Finex. I just hope that when and if the house of cards falls down it isn't another MTGOX moment. Then again, accumulating more BTC for cheap could be another opportunity.

[LewisPirenne]

icos will be regulated to the best of their ability, more likely it'll be like america and ico operators will shun identifiable europeans.
china hasn't and can't regulate any cryptocurrency. they can regulate exchanges and other ways to interact with them. that's what they're doing everywhere in the world already pretty much.

As discussed before, since ICO will be banned/regulated, it is just easier to do those "IFO", Initial Fork Offering, i.e. fork and pre-mine a percentage, onboard millions of users instantly.  Even a 0.01~0.02 crossrate would be worth a few billions dollars, a magnitude greater than the biggest ICO. 

That is assuming of course that they actually got a crew that can copy-paste and code a bit, unlike that S2X wreck.