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[Rosewater Foundation]

Floating gardens of techno-delight, what more to it is there. Anyone not possessed with heaping gobs of money need not apply. I guess San Francisco is full.

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[JayJuanGee]

<sup>Hello user JayJuanGee,

We have suspended and closed your account on suspicion of cooly prancing your way to victory. We don't like that</sup>

I am trying to hodl backl on getting too  CITTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Because some members prefer that I HODL BACKL.

[Rosewater Foundation]

And you will buy protection from the nearest nation-state with a standing army of poor people.

[600watt]

A $30M coin has done more volume in the last 24 hours than Bitstamp.

some fucker is posting more shit in a bitcoin speculation subforum in the last 24 hours than...

[JayJuanGee]

Stop fucking exaggerating and defending jbreher.  

... proclaiming doom and gloom and spreading FUD based on little to no evidence, including yourself when you go to support jbreher and the other Bitfinex fearmongering

I find it somewhat odd that you have turned an observation about the rather unique and seemingly precarious position that Bitfinex is in, into some sort of referendum on me.

The defense was of you, and you have had an ongoing conspiracy theory regarding Bitfinex, probably over a year.. .. so it is NOT about you, but instead about your ongoing mostly speculative and conspiratorial position.

[Elwar]

Don't try to escape from the world! Try to change it for the better!

That would require changing people. People have repeatedly demonstrated that they dislike freedom. Or at least it is a very low priority.

Why try to fight to give people something they do not want? Live and let live. I have nothing against someone else not wanting freedom if I am able to go find it myself.

What is your definition of freedom?

No force.

Freedom to sleep at the Ritz or under a bridge. That kind of freedom?

Freedom to do either depending upon the voluntary agreement between whoever owns those places you want to sleep.

[becoin]

Don't try to escape from the world! Try to change it for the better!

That would require changing people. People have repeatedly demonstrated that they dislike freedom. Or at least it is a very low priority.

Why try to fight to give people something they do not want? Live and let live. I have nothing against someone else not wanting freedom if I am able to go find it myself.

What is your definition of freedom?

No force.

If you have nothing to eat you're still forced by your own body to find something to eat. This is why people have to cooperate to find/produce their food. Every member in such a group has rights and obligations. Your right is somebody else's obligation. Every obligation you have limits your freedom! Absolute freedom means no obligations and thus no rights. It means lack of society. It means absolute solitude and loneliness. Is that what you're trying to achieve? Of course, not!

[Rosewater Foundation]

^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people.

[Elwar]

And you will buy protection from the nearest nation-state with a standing army of poor people.

The initial seastead prototype will be in a Tahitian lagoon in a Special Economic Zone under French Polynesian criminal code.

[Rosewater Foundation]

And you will buy protection from the nearest nation-state with a standing army of poor people.

The initial seastead prototype will be in a Tahitian lagoon in a Special Economic Zone under French Polynesian criminal code.

Right. Under the protection of the French then? And abiding by their laws?

[Elwar]

^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people.

Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties?

[Elwar]

And you will buy protection from the nearest nation-state with a standing army of poor people.

The initial seastead prototype will be in a Tahitian lagoon in a Special Economic Zone under French Polynesian criminal code.

Right. Under the protection of the French then? And abiding by their laws?

Abiding by their criminal code with some limited economic freedom and sovereignty.

[Rosewater Foundation]

^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people.

Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties?

I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal.

[Hyperjacked]

Don't try to escape from the world! Try to change it for the better!

That would require changing people. People have repeatedly demonstrated that they dislike freedom. Or at least it is a very low priority.

Why try to fight to give people something they do not want? Live and let live. I have nothing against someone else not wanting freedom if I am able to go find it myself.

What is your definition of freedom?

No force.

If you have nothing to eat you're still forced by your own body to find something to eat. This is why people have to cooperate to find/produce their food. Every member in such a group has rights and obligations. Your right is somebody else's obligation. Every obligation you have limits your freedom! Absolute freedom means no obligations and thus no rights. It means lack of society. It means absolute solitude and loneliness. Is that what you're trying to achieve? Of course, not!

Freedom is not being weighed down by unwanted obligations and the ability to do want you want with your time... For some it is socializing with friends and family while helping the less fortunate ! For some it's vanity and striving after the wind... Sometimes is the little things that mean the most IMHO

[Elwar]

If you have nothing to eat you're still forced by your own body to find something to eat. This is why people have to cooperate to find/produce their food. Every member in such a group has rights and obligations. Your right is somebody else's obligation. Every obligation you have limits your freedom! Absolute freedom means no obligations and thus no rights. It means lack of society. It means absolute solitude and loneliness. Is that what you're trying to achieve? Of course, not!

So now you're being forced by your own body? You're not obliged to anyone. Nobody is obliged to you.

You can voluntarily cooperate. Most people do not like voluntary interactions. Especially if they have nothing to offer other than calling for force.

[Elwar]

^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people.

Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties?

I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal.

It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger.

[Rosewater Foundation]

^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people.

Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties?

I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal.

It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger.

Suddenly it sounds like a multinational corporation. Nope. Sinister.
I can't help it. I like it even less now.

[Elwar]

^It's cool. We're not taking any poor people.

Are you as concerned about the hundreds of thousands of miles of ocean front property that aren't cheap? Or just a tiny little floating island that will have no impact upon anyone else? Would you use force to allow poor people to live in ocean front properties?

I'm saying, if all this is is just a fork of the current world real estate racket, I don't get the appeal.

It is a prototype. The people actually making any decisions about its purpose will not be on Internet websites. They will be living on the seastead working to make it into something bigger.

Suddenly it sounds like a multinational corporation. Nope. Sinister.
I can't help it. I like it even less now.

Definitely not for you.

[Rosewater Foundation]

^When that first refugee gets turned away, the ugly face of future-states will be staring you right in the face.

[Elwar]

^When that first refugee gets turned away, the ugly face of future-states will be staring you right in the face.

Your preconceived notions of something in such a primitive stage is lovely. Takes me to the way way back machine of the early days of Bitcoin.

And like Bitcoin, seasteading will be started by libertarians and taken over by the same people that want it regulated and watered down.