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November 27, 2017, 08:10:56 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

CoinMarketCap is a global blend.  It picks up all sorts of weird prices. I wouldn’t trust it.  Click on the price to see the mix.
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November 27, 2017, 08:17:30 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

Isn't Coinmarketcap is hour/s behind on its price updates? I also noticed it too when I was tracking the previous days Bitcoin Cash heavy rally. I shifted to blockfolio because it is better and I can set alarms.   
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November 27, 2017, 08:23:07 AM

Just so you guys know, there's Black Friday 21% discount on Ledger Nano S until 27 november.

Hmm. I've been thinking about equipping the progeny. They're currently on paper wallets. But would that be additional incentive for them to not hodl?



And I repeat my query: What's the vision?

Just a few people living on houseboats. Nothing to concern yourself with.
That's a shame. If there was a worthwhile vision you would not have anything against sharing it. On the contrary. Oh well.

On the eve of Elwar's starting of probably the most significant chapter of his life's journey, you're going to call him to task for not engaging with a hornet's nest of internet trolls that only want to show how this work is sheer folly? Why the hell would he expend the mental bandwidth?



not saying it cant be done. saying an off-shore gated community for the transnational rich isn't interesting
its obscene

As opposed to, say, an on-shore gated community for the transnational rich? Either one is interesting at least to the transnational rich. As if that's all that's going on here.
Though this is also an experiment in new forms of governance. Something from which the world could probably benefit greatly.
BTW, your green gene is showing.



If you are on an iPhone using Safari it’s 10x more secure than a windows PC.  Androids are a joke though.

I suppose you're an apple fan and an expert in vulns bro, could you tell us more about these spreadsheets and what it means?

https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/49/Apple.html
https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/1224/Google.html

I've not been to this website before, and am not interested in spending the time to dig in to the results. That said, rather than comparing Apple to Google, should you not be comparing iOS to android?

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/34425/Apple-IOS.html?vendor_id=49
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224
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November 27, 2017, 08:44:04 AM

If you're still holding BTG congrats combined value of BTC+BTG is over $10k

Wow!
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If you are on an iPhone using Safari it’s 10x more secure than a windows PC.  Androids are a joke though.

I suppose you're an apple fan and an expert in vulns bro, could you tell us more about these spreadsheets and what it means?

https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/49/Apple.html
https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/1224/Google.html

I've not been to this website before, and am not interested in spending the time to dig in to the results. That said, rather than comparing Apple to Google, should you not be comparing iOS to android?

https://www.cvedetails.com/product/34425/Apple-IOS.html?vendor_id=49
https://www.cvedetails.com/product/19997/Google-Android.html?vendor_id=1224

I understand the logic behind your choice but I like to see the bigger picture, he mentioned iphone and safari combined ...which are apple products

also this is the correct link to ios vulns https://www.cvedetails.com/product/15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html?vendor_id=49
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November 27, 2017, 08:45:23 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

Bitstamp is an individual exchange. It is sometimes referred to as Bearstamp because its prices are often lower than other exchanges. The prices at different exchanges vary greatly due to location, features and other considerations.

Coinmarketcap is a price indexing service like Bitcoinaverage, Preev, or the Coindesk BPI. These indexing services use averages from multiple exchanges, weighted by volumes.

I only use  Coinmarketcap for altcoins because I find that Bitcoinaverage gives a truer indication of global prices, as it averages more exchanges and excludes volumes from zero-fee exchanges. Bitcoinaverage is also the base price used by the majority of BTC ATMs here in Toronto, so to me it's most representative of real-world prices.
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November 27, 2017, 08:49:00 AM

That's  a pretty steep wall up to 10k on stamp. I'm betting it'll get munched or pulled.
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November 27, 2017, 08:49:32 AM

Ok I have been out for a run and feel better now.  It is now acceptable for the price to continue to rise in a slow and orderly fashion.


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November 27, 2017, 08:49:49 AM

Just so you guys know, there's Black Friday 21% discount on Ledger Nano S until 27 november.

Hmm. I've been thinking about equipping the progeny. They're currently on paper wallets. But would that be additional incentive for them to not hodl?

I don't know about your progeny. But in my case it has somehow encouraged me to hodl more... It's long to explain, but it has made me reduce my exchange exposure to the bare minimum for trading and completely eliminate my previous usage of software wallets. But If someone wants to sell (not hodl) I guess he would do it no matter what.

Also a combination of paperwallets (ultra cold storage) + hardware wallet (hot/cold wallet on one device) is perfectly reasonable. Whatever fits better for each person.

If you want someone to really USE Bitcoin, a hardware wallet is the ONLY way to go. I keep saying hardware wallets are probably the best and most useful innovation in Bitcoin of the past few years, so I am a bit biased towards its mainstream adoption.
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November 27, 2017, 09:02:04 AM

I usually look at bitstamp and coinmarketcap for my USD prices.

Does anyone know why they are always about 200 USD apart since a few days?

At the moment: Bitstamp: 9600, Coinmarketcap: 9770

Bitstamp is an individual exchange. It is sometimes referred to as Bearstamp because its prices are often lower than other exchanges. The prices at different exchanges vary greatly due to location, features and other considerations.

Coinmarketcap is a price indexing service like Bitcoinaverage, Preev, or the Coindesk BPI. These indexing services use averages from multiple exchanges, weighted by volumes.

I only use  Coinmarketcap for altcoins because I find that Bitcoinaverage gives a truer indication of global prices, as it averages more exchanges and excludes volumes from zero-fee exchanges. Bitcoinaverage is also the base price used by the majority of BTC ATMs here in Toronto, so to me it's most representative of real-world prices.

And Kraken is even more lagging, mostly around 100 € lower than (Bear)Stamp... .
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I am not sure why folks find it so amazing that the order book would have sell orders that are mostly within about 30% of the current price, and after that there are not too many sell orders on the books.  Frequently, it seems to work like that, and sell orders will get put on the books as the price rises, no? 

Back in the good ole days, when the price was in the $1k range, I had set my sell orders up to $3,500 ish.  Then when  we got into the $4-5k range I had sell orders up to $10k, and then when we got to $6k-ish, I put my sell orders to $13k-ish.  Now my sell orders go to $15k-ish, and so it is starting to feel like I may need to add some more sell orders in the $15k to $20k territory.. even though I am a bit reluctant, I am starting to think that I gotta pee pare myself... cause we be moving UPPITY a bit faster than expected.
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November 27, 2017, 09:33:24 AM
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...the good ole days, when the price was in the $1k range...

Lawl. Earlier this year, you mean.  Cheesy

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Now a grand a coin is the "good ole days". As a Canadian, 5 digits is becoming old hat. Now it's 6 digits or be damned.

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Bedtime for me. Hopefully by morning (noon) we'll have digested this little profit-taking/consolidation and we'll be back on track toward $10k.
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November 27, 2017, 09:38:44 AM

is crypto done?? Huh

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November 27, 2017, 09:39:41 AM

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November 27, 2017, 09:42:30 AM

Are we poor and miserable again?
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November 27, 2017, 09:56:07 AM

BTFD? Maybe that's what they look like now?
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November 27, 2017, 09:56:45 AM

next 24h are critical!
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November 27, 2017, 09:58:58 AM

China is going to ban bitcoin
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November 27, 2017, 10:01:35 AM

Looks like I need to go back to work. Anyone hiring?

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November 27, 2017, 10:05:56 AM

We are all gonna die!
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