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December 18, 2017, 01:18:21 PM

Meanwhile, on Reddit;

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7kf43b/bitcoincom_wallet_2_out_of_5_stars_531_ratings_we/drei7jx/

MemoryDealers Roger Ver - Bitcoin Entrepreneur - Bitcoin.com -239 points 5 hours ago
I made Andreas a millionaire. I suspect he is pretty happy with my tweet.


And i thought Roger couldn't sink any lower...lol, what a retard.
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December 18, 2017, 01:20:30 PM

Meanwhile, on Reddit;

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7kf43b/bitcoincom_wallet_2_out_of_5_stars_531_ratings_we/drei7jx/

MemoryDealers Roger Ver - Bitcoin Entrepreneur - Bitcoin.com -239 points 5 hours ago
I made Andreas a millionaire. I suspect he is pretty happy with my tweet.


And i thought Roger couldn't sink any lower...lol, what a retard.


Clinical narcissists overuse the word "I" (and "my") in their writing because they constantly self-reference. He managed to use it in both sentences, lol.
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December 18, 2017, 01:24:19 PM


We didnt buy Microsoft, I had very little money.  If I skipped the idea of using a computer and with extreme blind faith done nothing in life but put it all on MSFT then I guess maybe.   It was a 'new' company, they bought an airplane turbine maker.   Only recently with China etc and a rise in air travel has that done better.

Right now in crypto there is something new that we are missing that'll grow and be used.   This whole all or nothing bubble idea is incorrect, the technology will be used and is useful.  But one single ticker benefiting is unlikely.

Re: windows, crypto isnt easy enough to use and sure as hell does matter and will bring success to innovators in usability.


First try buying a stock for me was $1K of the IT company "Compuserve" ... on the 9/11/2001 early in the morning.

Never bought any other stock after that.
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December 18, 2017, 01:37:12 PM
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Mining has eventual low, uniform profit per unit of (hardware $  + energy $). Both hardware and energy markets are seriously skewed, that's what allows monopolies.

No, there's absolutely no reason this paradigm will ever change because technology that exists is just a reflection of asymmetric intelligence distribution of humans,
Or asymmetric resource distribution before the roll of the dice (Jared Diamond's Guns, Germs and Steel explains this nicely), but whatever. No matter if it's genetics or environmental luck.

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You're basically pretending a bunch of peons can crowd source a bitcoin miner better than intel can build, or that commodification of ASICs is inevitable when it's obviously not.
A bunch of peons or an aggressive startup company. Crowd source or reverse engineer, minus the research costs.  Greed is great fuel. And it needn't be better. All it has to be is "as cost effective as" under some assumptions.

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There is no incentive to sell a money printing machine for less or equal money than it would make you unless the goal is simply to put on a ruse
...or avoid entrepreneurial risk (China bans miners for the umpteenth time!) or management overhead. Or it's simply that you are in a different line of business (designing and selling hardware) and don't care about the paltry, diminishing returns given how much time and effort it would cost you.

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Let's also not forget that in adversarial mining you can automatically eliminate your rivals simply by having larger hash power.
The law of big numbers will attribute to each actor a revenue proportional to the hashing power - with a certain threshold to "get in the game" in the first place. It's not a 0/1, winner-takes-it-all game.

When you're not savagely ranting and try to articulate human-shaped phrases, replying to your posts point by point is possible indeed! I think I managed. However, it is a taxing endeavour and I can't let it become a full time job. Bring new concepts to the discussion and I might reply again.

P.S. It's not too late. You can STILL get into Bitcoin, unless the pirates stole all your silver and gold while you were "trustlessly, effectively, cheaply" moving it from the Goblin Bank to your underground bunker.
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December 18, 2017, 02:09:04 PM

BTC:


    $0000 - $1000: 1789 days
    $1000- $2000: 1271 days
    $2000- $3000: 23 days
    $3000- $4000: 62 days
    $4000- $5000: 61 days
    $5000- $6000: 8 days
    $6000- $7000: 13 days
    $7000- $8000: 14 days
    $8000- $9000: 9 days
    $9000-$10000: 2 days
    $10000-$11000: 1 day
    $11000-$12000: 6 days
    $12,000-$13,000: 17 hours
    $13,000-$14,000: 4 hours
    $14,000-$15,000: 10 hours
    $15,000-$16,000: 5 hours
    $16,000-$17,000: 8 hours
    $17,000-$18,000:
    $18,000-$19,000:


Current ATH:



Anyone have a source for the above chart? Or can fill in the blanks? Especially, the All Time High? (ATH)

Just trying to keep this current.

Link to the Bitcointalk hread I'm keeping track of this on if anyone is interested....(doubtful, that is) Smiley

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2565806.msg26127027#msg26127027


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December 18, 2017, 02:24:39 PM

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December 18, 2017, 02:24:52 PM

What's with the sharp dip? Did anything come out?
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December 18, 2017, 02:25:39 PM

What's with the sharp dip? Did anything come out?

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December 18, 2017, 02:36:41 PM

When is dpos hard fork? could affect us? No problem with miners there
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December 18, 2017, 02:37:49 PM

Looks like we are completing the third inverse head and shoulders of the month on the 1 hour and 30 min charts. Every 10 days, like clockwork. Bullish.

Today or tomorrow may be the day we break out above $20k.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/inverseheadandshoulders.asp
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December 18, 2017, 02:38:00 PM

bch pumpin, is it a bad sign ?
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December 18, 2017, 02:49:57 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry
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December 18, 2017, 02:56:22 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

How did they change your password on coinbase, bittrex and poloniex if you have 2FA enabled? Or you have it only for withdrawls?

ANyways, good to hear it didn't have bigger consequences.
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December 18, 2017, 03:00:07 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

I think the lesson learned is that you should have used 2FA on your Gmail account. And how did they manage to hack your Gmail anyway? Were you using a weak password? Or leaked it somewhere? Always use 2FA everywhere you can, and use a different, random password for each site (with the help of a password manager perhaps). And never write down or disclose your passwords to anyone (not even your parents, spouse, children, etc.).

Not meaning to offend you, but I've found that in most cases it's the user's lack of good security practices that's at fault.

Well, at least they didn't cause any serious damage.
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December 18, 2017, 03:02:40 PM

bch pumpin, is it a bad sign ?

People dumping Bcash instead of ''using'' them..



Bitcoin looks more healthy.

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December 18, 2017, 03:08:41 PM
Last edit: December 18, 2017, 04:07:30 PM by bones261

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

I think the lesson learned is that you should have used 2FA on your Gmail account. And how did they manage to hack your Gmail anyway? Were you using a weak password? Or leaked it somewhere? Always use 2FA everywhere you can, and use a different, random password for each site (with the help of a password manager perhaps). And never write down or disclose your passwords to anyone (not even your parents, spouse, children, etc.).

Not meaning to offend you, but I've found that in most cases it's the user's lack of good security practices that's at fault.

Well, at least they didn't cause any serious damage.

I really don't use the g-mail account. It was the main e-mail account through my ISP that they got into and were resetting my passwords. MY ISP e-mail doesn't have 2FA. I do use an different password randomly generated by a password manager for each site. I guess the weak link is the main ISP e-mail account that I use.

Edit: The ISP does have 2FA that I activated but it's weak. Only does it when it detects a new device and will only send code through text and e-mail. No Google Authenticator.
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December 18, 2017, 03:09:49 PM

bch pumpin, is it a bad sign ?

People dumping Bcash instead of ''using'' them..



Bitcoin looks more healthy.




As a LTC dumper of 2 min ago (to pay bills) the LTC price is now pumping.....(my skills at selling at the wrong time is epic!)

anyway, your welcome!

enjoy!



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December 18, 2017, 03:10:30 PM

Funny how we live in this bizarro world where Jamie Dimon calls Bitcoin a fraud, but J.P. Morgan upgrades Twitter and says it's one of the best buys of 2018. A company that literally makes no money and cannot be monetized.  Roll Eyes

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/twitter-shares-jump-after-jpmorgan-upgrades-the-stock.html
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December 18, 2017, 03:11:46 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

How did they change your password on coinbase, bittrex and poloniex if you have 2FA enabled? Or you have it only for withdrawls?

ANyways, good to hear it didn't have bigger consequences.

You can reset the password without doing the 2fa. They just need the e-mail that you use. Just not get into the account afterword.
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December 18, 2017, 03:21:37 PM

Funny how we live in this bizarro world where Jamie Dimon calls Bitcoin a fraud, but J.P. Morgan upgrades Twitter and says it's one of the best buys of 2018. A company that literally makes no money and cannot be monetized.  Roll Eyes

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/18/twitter-shares-jump-after-jpmorgan-upgrades-the-stock.html

But... it has been some time now since twitter started monetizing the service via ads:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/26/twitter-earnings-q3-revenue-eps-and-maus.html

Not saying it is a good investment though. I am happy with Bitcoin Smiley
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