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[jojo69]

your type will end up being the first in line for purging once they accomplish full blockchain adoption.

certainly possible, so enlighten us, oh guru, how do we identify and fight the real masters?

You do not.

well, that is certainly helpful... 


I have accepted struggle in my life.  Acquiescence is distasteful to the point that it taints all other pleasures.

[xhomerx10]

Listen, I know these are difficult times. But let's try to remain civil. Remember why we're here.

To crush souls and steal their money? Yeah, most of us seem to have forgotten.

To make sure (((Goldman Sachs))) is left holding the bag on completely valueless, imaginary assets like bitcoin and ethereum while the goyim sell retardedly overvalued craptocurrency to buy up the whole silver and gold market.

Do you really think the minnows that hang out here can possibly make even a dent in the PM supply?   Maybe you ought to hit up the Winklevoss twins. However, I don't think even they could muster enough to make a dent. Maybe you can get Barry to suddenly change the investment strategy of DCG.  

2 billion oz above ground silver = $32 billion
bitcoin market cap = $242 billion

Come on man.  Peru alone has 120,000 MT of silver reserve.  That's 3.85 billion troy ounces.  I think your numbers are way off.

I'm talking about above ground investment grade silver that can be delivered to market.  You're talking about so called "deep storage" silver, which isn't even economical to extract.  Even so, you referenced (the largest below ground silver reserve in the world?) and it's only $60.8 billion.  But that's like saying trees aren't valuable because I saw a tree over there we haven't cut down and dragged to market yet.  

It requires two neutron stars colliding to make that silver, so unlike the tree, once that largest in the world silver reserve is gone, you aren't getting another one.  And mostly unlike gold, civilization actually needs that silver to function and uses it up all the time.  It also might take some astronomical time span like 20 years to extract the silver you referenced, and might cost an order of magnitude higher silver prices for it to happen.  When you say the world has so and so amount of silver below ground, the number is meaningless because it might cost $100+ an ounce to extract the stuff you're talking about.

 No. It's like saying, "there's a tree over there because nobody wants the fuckin' thing and it's not worth their sweat to cut it down.".
Anyway, when civilization runs out of mirrors and current year shiny collectible coins, they'll gladly pay $100 per ounce for silver provided that haven't found a way to collide a couple of neutron stars to make some a little more cheaply.

[TERA2]

Meanwhile a random coin called 'burst' is up 160%, but nobody is upset that they missed the burst train to increase their coins 160%. Theyre only upset that they missed the fiat train to increase their coins 30%.

[flynn]

2017: 1 btc = 1 fiat
 

This part is confusing me...

[Rosewater Foundation]

Meanwhile a random coin called 'burst' is up 160%, but nobody is upset that they missed the burst train to increase their coins 160%. Theyre only upset that they missed the fiat train to increase their coins 30%.

I remember burst. God, shit coins were dumb.

[TERA2]

[roach_lost]

https://pictures.dealer.com/f/fiatofportlandfiat/1605/391f3ec8cf71674d36371cb956fb7a68x.jpg

It includes a consumer and bonus cash.

[BayAreaCoins]

My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin Core Coin is absolutely shitting on the confidence of cryptocurrency as a whole... if anything Bitcoin Cash is trying to save us.

The average cost per transaction for BCore Coin at the moment is over $40!!!

If you want to buy a candy bar with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 40x the cost due to fees.

If you want to buy a hit of acid with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 4x the cost due to fees.

If you want to buy a 8th of weed with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 2x the cost due to fees.

I seriously doubt that BCore Coin would have been what it is today without the Silk Road and I doubt the Silk Road would have been anything with such absurd transfer fees.

Even if you aren't buying drugs... why would anyone use BCore to send payments when there are SO many cheaper options?  In fact, I can't think of a single option that costs more than BCore to send $500.

For those who say "Bitcoin isn't meant to buy candy with!"... why would Satoshi waste his time talking about Bitcoin and vending machines in that case?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6269#msg6269

[HairyMaclairy]

Meanwhile a random coin called 'burst' is up 160%, but nobody is upset that they missed the burst train to increase their coins 160%. Theyre only upset that they missed the fiat train to increase their coins 30%.

 I think this one is too deep for me. Why would anyone care about a random PND?

[TERA2]

Bitcoin just isn't suitable for single hits of acid these days, only ten strips and if this keeps up, it'll be sheets. Actually if you're still using bitcoin to buy drugs that's kind of stupid. That should have been over in 2013.

[JayJuanGee]

I really want to see one final total panic sell, all the way down to $10,000 in a matter of minutes, all out hysteria, just like the old days.

That would be bracing! I have standing buy orders all the way down to there and further yet.



I've pulled enough fiat out this sucka in the last few weeks to get me through another crypto winter. See ya at the next halving?

'Cause we know it is inevitable that it will hit ATHs again some day. The only question being when.

Well, unless it is killed off by a preference for the other fork, that is.

Your orders are way too close together - especially for someone who is supposedly more experienced and for someone who has built some equity.

Hey - Butt The Fuck Out. And I say that in the most loving way. ::wink::

Really, I mean to say, you trade the way you want, and I'll trade the way I want. My 'too close together' orders netted me several BTC last night. I'm doing just fine, thankyouverymuch.

After all, what the hell else am I gonna do with the fiat side profits?

Hey Jbreher, at least when you talk about trading strategies (whether BTC or alts.. of course, BTC is more relevant), you are talking about something that is meaningful to what participants in this thread (and bitcoin) want to brainstorm these kinds of various trading strategies.

I also said my part too in regard to the problematic nature of the seeming structure of your orders.  I am not trying to be a dick, but I am trying to assist your retarded ass, without being patronizing and perhaps you have some kind of explanation that would allow your system to make sense, but having your buy and sell orders so close together seems a bit naive and impractical (or did I say retarded earlier?), and I am saying those things in a loving way.     - even though I am doing it in a public thread, rather than privately.

Sure buying a lot of bitcoin can make you a lot of money, but it appears that you have your orders set for about $250 increments.  You have about 26 orders between $6800 and $13500.  It also appears that you have about a $500 spread.  I actually don't have a problem with keeping your spread about 2x your increments, but merely quibbling about the seeming non-practicality of such close increments.

Yeah, of course when I was a beginner trader I was trying to get a lot of experience, so I set my order increments very close together in terms of percentage, starting with about 1.5% and working my way to larger increments.  I was also trying to build my stackings on both sides; however, it seems that you have been doing this kind of thing at least as long as me, and probably longer, so, I cannot see why you would either need to gain additional experience or you would not have figured out other ways to stack your buy/sell orders so they are not so close together.

Also, with bitcoin, sure we can have a lot of reversals that cause us to have to reset our buy/sell orders, but when you have built equity we should tend to not have time to be spending on resetting so many orders, unless that is your only exchange or the only pair that you are trading... and also the outrageous runs that take BTC 50% or larger without any meaningful corrections...and then continuing more and more and more which is resulting in nearly an unmanageable quantity of orders being filled.

Sure when BTC prices are in the $6,800 territory, the price increments are around 4%; however, when the price is in the $13,500 territory, you have only about 2% increments.  Do you have a bot that is assisting you with manageing and keeping up with these kinds of frequencies especially when BTC prices are moving outrageously fast?  Just seems too much when we have 30% price movements in a few days... and frequent 10-20% price swings in a day and back and forth, within that too.

Funny you have had any time to write anything in this thread or anywhere else or to do anything else in your life?

And really, does it matter how much money you are supposedly making if you are ending up spending so much time on something like this, when you could probably achieve a lot of the same objectives, even while maintaining greater increments and spreads.  Tell me what I am missing?  Why you torture yourself like that?

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.

bcash is so fun

et tu, BAC.

[AlcoHoDL]

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Oterwhise closest to the winning date wins

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Hey micgoossens!

Thanks for the new game! I LIKE IT!!!

10 February 2018 for me please.

[TERA2]

All this debate over what the blocksize should be or if there should be lightning network and I'm sitting here thinking the solution is neither and that we should have some kind of sharding or tree where not all nodes have to store the full chain.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Meanwhile a random coin called 'burst' is up 160%, but nobody is upset that they missed the burst train to increase their coins 160%. Theyre only upset that they missed the fiat train to increase their coins 30%.

 I think this one is too deep for me. Why would anyone care about a random PND?

I'd like to know how he missed hamstercoin is up 400%.

[JayJuanGee]

I really want to see one final total panic sell, all the way down to $10,000 in a matter of minutes, all out hysteria, just like the old days.

That would be bracing! I have standing buy orders all the way down to there and further yet.



I've pulled enough fiat out this sucka in the last few weeks to get me through another crypto winter. See ya at the next halving?

'Cause we know it is inevitable that it will hit ATHs again some day. The only question being when.

Well, unless it is killed off by a preference for the other fork, that is.

Your orders are way too close together - especially for someone who is supposedly more experienced and for someone who has built some equity.

Maybe he’s actually a bot?

Actually that is a good point.  A bot could actually reasonably set orders closer together than any real person would want to tolerate.

OTOH, a bot that left a hole at $7500 would be a very funny bot indeed.

It's actually not that time consuming. Just look over at the other monitor from time to time, and enter one order for each executing order.

Although a bot might be handy...

Actually, I kind of like the "jbreher is a bot" theory, so stop trying to ruin such theory with contrary facts.       

[jbreher]

I also said my part too in regard to the problematic nature of the seeming structure of your orders.  I am not trying to be a dick, but I am trying to assist your retarded ass, without being patronizing and perhaps you have some kind of explanation that would allow your system to make sense, but having your buy and sell orders so close together seems a bit naive and impractical (or did I say retarded earlier?), and I am saying those things in a loving way.     - even though I am doing it in a public thread, rather than privately.

Look, fuckwad ( ::mwah!:: ) the way to maximize profits from volatility to to place your orders such that they are as close as you deem tolerable. Right? Placed at $250 (good call by the way), I can profit off every $250 cycle. If they were placed at (e.g.) $1000, the price could (and frequently does) make a dozen or so $250 cycles within that $1000. Yielding me $3000*unit rather than $1000*unit (or whatever BTC, if taking profit on the BTC side). And 3 is more than 1. RIGHT?

And it really is not that burdensome. As I stated earlier, just check the other monitor every once in a while and enter an order or two when warranted.

That said, just two days ago, I pulled off the $125 increment plan, having fulfilled my cash infusion desires. OTOH, several weeks ago, I had not been trading at all. But of late, I decided I wanted to make a large purchase. Mission accomplished, I will indeed be scaling back. Gradually.

Retarded my ass.

[realr0ach]

I think the fact that years ago, everyone knows that solar energy requires massive amount of silver and yet silver failed to stage even a meaningful rally is quite bearish.

That has zero to do with it.  The US produces BARELY ANY silver at all.  They rigged the price of silver to both try and prop up the debt based scam dollar, plus it means the US pays nothing for all the silver it imports.  It also means nations like Mexico give away some of their most precious assets for nothing.  All that is now changing.

Many of these other nations they tried to impoverish on purpose started hoarding gold (like India and numerous arab states).  So now there is no real incentive for organizations like the Pilgrim society to prop up gold and suppress silver.  If anything, there's now more incentive to let silver rise and suppress gold.  None of the world powers want places like India to all become millionaires overnight.  That would just mean the other nations are their slaves, and why would anyone be a slave to India?  The fact India has lots of gold means the price of gold is capped at a certain point but silver can moonshot.

Fort Knox doesn't have the gold there either and JP Morgan has acquired an enormous amount of silver on behalf of the US govt as part of their plan B, C, D, E, F, G when the monetary system blows up; that and strategic reserve. So as you can see, silver is not going to be suppressed much longer since there's no real reason to.  When the metals sector breaks free, they aren't going to try and stop silver from ripping people's faces off.

Even China, which is on Silver Standard for a millennium and was one of the largest silver producer in the world (still is), doesn't care about silver.

There is a reason China now issues silver in the same acrylic, protective capsules as they do gold.  You just haven't seen why yet.

Silver as well as all precious metals have a long future of suppression at least until full blockchain adoption is in place. By then only the inner party will be able to use their blockchain money for pm purchases so everyone will be happy by default.
You will learn not to even want it eventually, particularly when there is absolutely no way to use your tokens to get it and everyone you know was born in the same system.

Haha.  The jews have far overplayed their hand and everyone knows it's them pushing for a cashless society slave system and all the other horrors they're behind. The more they push from here, the faster the rest of the planet will dispose of them for good.  They are the biggest paper tiger that has ever existed and will be shocked at how fast they're exterminated.

https://i.imgur.com/CZcLk55.gif

Hating another group the actual owners want you to hate isn't very enlightened and it is a little disappointing.

Are the odds not very high that the Jews are just another one of the groups they hide behind? It would be too obvious otherwise.
The owners have been generating hatred for groups they can hide behind for all of history, what would be different now?

Having you hate whatever group that is too broad to isolate them is very productive for them so why have you fallen in this trap so deeply despite seeing so much? It would be much easier to realize the reality that is the owners are too small of a group to every be correctly identified when the scale is that of a major religion or race. It would then be very obvious too that you are being played and there is no meaningful power to you or yours, only occasional appearance of power when someone wins the lottery or does well in the casino. All by design to keep reality going.

If you were part of the owners you would do to others exactly what they do to you, just with a different label, so why not just admit jealousy and live without hatred and always improving yourself, enjoying every tiny amount of real power anonymity allows you to enjoy as long as you keep your thoughts to yourself?

While there were some goyim usurers in the old days, it's clear to anyone the jew has seized the majority of the pie now.  Due to the Hofjuden and their intermarrying with nobility, we may even be underestimating the problem and just be smothered with nepotistic cryptojews as far as the eye can see.  The I-talians change their last name when coming to America in order to try and integrate.  The jew changes his last name in order to...avoid detection.

Anyway, you would find it's a more productive use of your time trying to persuade Adolf Eichmann that the jew isn't a plague upon humanity that has to be gotten rid of than me.

[JayJuanGee]

My concern is not that bcash will overtake bitcoin. It's that these attacks on bitcoin will undermine confidence in all cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin Core Coin is absolutely shitting on the confidence of cryptocurrency as a whole... if anything Bitcoin Cash is trying to save us.

The average cost per transaction for BCore Coin at the moment is over $40!!!

If you want to buy a candy bar with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 40x the cost due to fees.

If you want to buy a hit of acid with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 4x the cost due to fees.

If you want to buy a 8th of weed with BCore Coin... you are going to pay 2x the cost due to fees.

I seriously doubt that BCore Coin would have been what it is today without the Silk Road and I doubt the Silk Road would have been anything with such absurd transfer fees.

Even if you aren't buying drugs... why would anyone use BCore to send payments when there are SO many cheaper options?  In fact, I can't think of a single option that costs more than BCore to send $500.

For those who say "Bitcoin isn't meant to buy candy with!"... why would Satoshi waste his time talking about Bitcoin and vending machines in that case?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6269#msg6269

I don't know what the fuck you are trolling these repetitious points.


Yeah... we fucking know that there has been ongoing spam attacks that are beyond previous attacks, and they have been going on for nearly two weeks driving fees higher and higher and higher.

Yes, we know bitcoin has not figured out ways to address these kinds of free market desires to ongoingly attack bitcoin, and to drive up fees for everyone..

The fees are not a feature of bitcoin, but it is a means to skim off transactions to separate them from likely ongoing and persistent spam.

So, yeah, if the spam continues to be economical and continues to go on for years, then perhaps bitcoiners will be stuck with permanent high fees that are caused by these attacks.. .. maybe that will be the new bitcoin, perhaps?  maybe bitcoin will not be able to economically and competitively process transactions under $1k.. so then bitcoin's value is going to have to be somewhere else, and perhaps for the larger and larger transactions.... maybe this will resolve itself, and maybe it will not... .. but don't fucking act as if this is some kind of purposeful thing that core developers have caused.  

[criptix]

why you go up when i want to short you BTC


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