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Question: July 28 Closing Price:
<$3,000 - 2 (25%)
<$8,000 - 0 (0%)
$8,001-$8,500 - 0 (0%)
$8,501-$9,000 - 0 (0%)
$9,001-$9,500 - 1 (12.5%)
$9,501-$10,000 - 1 (12.5%)
$10,001-$10,500 - 0 (0%)
$10,501-$11,000 - 2 (25%)
$11,001-$11,500 - 1 (12.5%)
$11,501-$12,000 - 0 (0%)
$12,001-$12,500 - 0 (0%)
$12,501-$13,000 - 1 (12.5%)
$13,001-$13,500 - 0 (0%)
$13,501-$14,000 - 0 (0%)
>$14,000 - 0 (0%)
>$18,000 - 0 (0%)
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May 26, 2018, 04:47:31 PM

So...being involved in an ICO I get to peek behind the scenes to see how these things work.

One crazy thing I ran across is this whole telegram phenomenon. Apparently if you don't have at least 2k followers on telegram people automatically think your ICO is shit so they don't join, which means you don't get to 2k telegram followers which means when someone else comes they'll see you don't have a lot of followers so they don't follow...etc. and on and on.

So these ICOs have to shell out promises of a portion of their crypto to these bounty programs. Basically all of the shit signature campaigns you see, all of those people join your telegram channel, create very shitty youtube videos so that they can say they created content (I went to one of these videos, the guy went to the web page and video taped him scrolling down the page...with some background music...two different videos created doing that same thing).

So...they fill up telegram with a shit ton of bounty program people who probably don't give one shit about your ICO, they're on every telegram channel probably with 10 different accounts. So now you have 2k followers but everyone knows that those are mostly just bounty program people so you should really have 4k or 5k...or whatever.

It's all a bunch of crap. We jumped from 200-300 people on the telegram channel mostly organically from sending an e-mail out to people who expressed interest on the website and mainly just people getting the word out on their own. After the bounty program we shot up to 1.4k (plus we had a lot of news coverage this past week so it's not all bounty program). Some dude logged in today with some altcoin profile picture and asked "why so few members?". Because apparently we're not wasting as many coins on shit posters as other ICOs (is what I wanted to say...).

This whole telegram thing is pretty stupid, I have no idea why people think it is useful for an ICO. I remember using something like this in MUDs back in 1993, it was the gossip channel, and it was annoying then too. I just keep waiting for someone to chat: "level!"...."grats!"
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May 26, 2018, 04:53:57 PM

Nicholas Weaver hit piece http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/papers/cryptorisks.pdf contains nothing new.
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May 26, 2018, 05:10:31 PM

So...being involved in an ICO I get to peek behind the scenes to see how these things work.

One crazy thing I ran across is this whole telegram phenomenon. Apparently if you don't have at least 2k followers on telegram people automatically think your ICO is shit so they don't join, which means you don't get to 2k telegram followers which means when someone else comes they'll see you don't have a lot of followers so they don't follow...etc. and on and on.

So these ICOs have to shell out promises of a portion of their crypto to these bounty programs. Basically all of the shit signature campaigns you see, all of those people join your telegram channel, create very shitty youtube videos so that they can say they created content (I went to one of these videos, the guy went to the web page and video taped him scrolling down the page...with some background music...two different videos created doing that same thing).

So...they fill up telegram with a shit ton of bounty program people who probably don't give one shit about your ICO, they're on every telegram channel probably with 10 different accounts. So now you have 2k followers but everyone knows that those are mostly just bounty program people so you should really have 4k or 5k...or whatever.

It's all a bunch of crap. We jumped from 200-300 people on the telegram channel mostly organically from sending an e-mail out to people who expressed interest on the website and mainly just people getting the word out on their own. After the bounty program we shot up to 1.4k (plus we had a lot of news coverage this past week so it's not all bounty program). Some dude logged in today with some altcoin profile picture and asked "why so few members?". Because apparently we're not wasting as many coins on shit posters as other ICOs (is what I wanted to say...).

This whole telegram thing is pretty stupid, I have no idea why people think it is useful for an ICO. I remember using something like this in MUDs back in 1993, it was the gossip channel, and it was annoying then too. I just keep waiting for someone to chat: "level!"...."grats!"

You generalise a lot there. I did 1 program and I did it all honestly and I liked the project so I'm staying involved.

Why is the telegram different from the old IRC channel? its just a place to get a quick answer?

Just don't judge everyone the same please.
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May 26, 2018, 05:15:47 PM

I see in this thread many posts that discuss bitcoin prices in a day, this indicates there are still many people who care about bitcoin. immediately reach $ 10k  Wink
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May 26, 2018, 05:43:12 PM

Cant seriously see any business complaining about too much sales? fishy shit

no, it is a real thing, the miners have been abusing subsidies...and getting aggressive with utility crews.  

Chelan county has had it up to here and is probably going to tax the living shit out of them.

Well, the real problem is that they are refusing to set the price at the point where the supply curve and the demand curve intersect.

Oh - and the whole municipal monopoly thing.
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May 26, 2018, 06:06:01 PM

I clicked on the Alex Jones live show on youtube and there's this chat box on the right hand side of the screen scrolling by at 100 miles an hour and 1/2 of the comments are "nuke israel!".  It was amazing.
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May 26, 2018, 06:07:49 PM

Cant seriously see any business complaining about too much sales? fishy shit

no, it is a real thing, the miners have been abusing subsidies...and getting aggressive with utility crews.  

Chelan county has had it up to here and is probably going to tax the living shit out of them.

Well, the real problem is that they are refusing to set the price at the point where the supply curve and the demand curve intersect.

Oh - and the whole municipal monopoly thing.

Not arguing with that.

The region had artificially low power rates in an effort to entice industry to locate there.  The miners moved in all wild west style and now the jurisdictions are realizing that crypto mining doesn't employ anyone.  The miners didn't make any friends with their confrontational antics and now the deal is going to be altered bringing power costs more in line with reality, either through rate increases or special taxation.

As far as the public sector monopoly, normally I would share your disdain but this one becomes sticky for me because I don't think I can get behind corporations owning rivers.
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May 26, 2018, 06:39:18 PM

Screw it. I'm buying moar.

There might be some guys in this thread willing to sell to you..

Rosewater, kingcolex, and a few more
What gave you that idea? You see I bought in at $50 originally and the majority of my stash around $200 haven't sold anything serious at all (except one coin to pay taxes last year) the half coin idea was to say that even if this all went to shit I made a bit of cash.

Yes... the half coin idea, gave me that idea.... exactamente!!!
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May 26, 2018, 06:45:40 PM

Okey so whats next???


Were gonne drop to €3k???

thinking BTC is just testing the doug polk 10K bet

I haven't seen anything from DPolk, recently, but I would imagine that he must be getting a bit nervous..... Tone Vays did have the better side of the bet in terms of being able to use the bet as leverage.. but it did seem that DPolk did make what seemed to be a reasonably decent bet in which odds seemed to be working pretty good for him.. and not so much now..

I seriously doubt Doug is the least bit nervous.  He is a pro, he knows his odds and is resigned to the outcome the fates deliver.

Also, he isn't exactly going hungry if he loses.

edit/ I see capslock beat me to it

Yeah.. cAPSLOCK beat you to it, and you also failed to acknowledge that I responded to him too, and I said that I was making a point about changes in the market in the last two weeks that makes the odds for going sub $6k to be greater than they were two weeks ago...

seems peep want to read too much into what I am saying and kind of whit knighting Dpolk... Hey, maybe Dpolk might say something himself about what he thinks about the changed odds and his feelings about such changed odds, if he is not a bot, too?

dougbot...I had not considered that...hmmmmmmmmm

He does seem pretty real, but hey, the bot theme is kind of going around in recent times, and really causing some of us "real" peeps to question others and perhaps even question ourselfies....  A bot would not really be real unless it were to engage in sexual harassment, right?
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May 26, 2018, 07:56:06 PM

I cannot believe how much money Google spent developing the JayJuanGee chat AI for these results.

Must be one of those cases in which one questions whether everything in the whole word is a simulation, which remains doubtful on the existential level.

The fact that nocoiners, like you, seem to recognize some value in AI, thus you should recognize some value in bitcoin, too.. but some of the AI endorsing fucks are getting distracted by supposed value of various other cryptos rather than recognizing the real innovations of bitcoin...... similar to you, who seems to get distracted in recognizing value in PMs, it is like you are living in the past, yet you seem smart enough that even you probably don't believe the nonsense PM pumping bullshit that you spout nor the identity politics inflamatory posts, either.

Those fucking nocoiners that didn't want to go all in max leveraged long at 10k.

That is a strawman argument, if I have ever seen one.



Only you troll shills are suggesting that regular peeps should be playing around with leverage, because you hope that you can cause peeps to perceive BTC investing as gambling rather than the long term value that it actually is.  Fact of the matter, Tera, remains that it does not matter exactly when you began to buy into bitcoin, including starting at $19,666, because if you maintain a prudent strategy and you continue to prudently invest in BTC, such as dollar cost averaging, incrementalism, accumulation and buying on dips, you are quite likely to thank yourselfie profusely in 3-5 years (and perhaps a shorter period of time) that you took an active approach to get involved in BTC and to take stake and accumulate as many BTC as you can within your reasonable means (perhaps using some leverage, but certainly not max leveraging anything because past BTC performance should teach any reasonable person that BTC is like to continue to be volatile and even downwardly manipulated below its fundamental value).
Point is the bulls were very rude to me and others for not playing along with the moon arrows when we were at 10K, and since I have not yet recieved any letters of apology I suppose they are blaming us for this drop as well.  I used to see in stock forums the bulls were always blaming bears for ruining their pump and compromising the float lockdown or whatever. I thought it was ridiculous.
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Point is the bulls were very rude to me and others for not playing along with the moon arrows when we were at 10K,

Who cares?  Get the fuck over it...These are the interwebs, and what do you need some kind of validation in order to share your opinions?


and since I have not yet recieved any letters of apology

Why the fuck would you need some kind of letter of apology?  You are acting like you were right about something or that there was a past moment in which you could foresee the future?  That certainly is not the case.


I suppose they are blaming us for this drop as well.  

Who is "us"?  Trolls?  You are a troll, so you are attempting to proclaim that bulls are blaming trolls for the current BTC price drop and/or price stagnation?

On a side note, are BTC prices going up or down from here?  You surely do not know, even if you have your ongoing and everlasting bear theories that try to proclaim that you actually know something.


I used to see in stock forums the bulls were always blaming bears for ruining their pump and compromising the float lockdown or whatever. I thought it was ridiculous.

The main thing that is ridiculous is your ongoing harping on various points that are largely just trolling because you are attempting to proclaim that you have some kind of knowledge about the price direction... thereafter, you generalize and lump bulls into the same category, while attempting to play sorcerer victim...

Give me a break, tera dee trolling bear.   Roll Eyes
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May 26, 2018, 09:19:22 PM

Finally some volume. Don't care which way, just do something.
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May 26, 2018, 09:44:14 PM

Finally some volume. Don't care which way, just do something.
looks like market testing spike. whats interesting, is how it happened on many coins at the same time.
i'd like to know if it was also coordinated on more exchanges, or originated only on one
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Point is the bulls were very rude to me and others for not playing along with the moon arrows when we were at 10K, and since I have not yet recieved any letters of apology I suppose they are blaming us for this drop as well.  I used to see in stock forums the bulls were always blaming bears for ruining their pump and compromising the float lockdown or whatever. I thought it was ridiculous.

Please accept my apologizes for blaming you personally for the selloff from 20k down to what I can only hope you will allow to be the floor. thank you that is all. Smiley
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Finally some volume. Don't care which way, just do something.

Right into the toilet.

Fucking happy now ?
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May 26, 2018, 10:10:53 PM

Finally some volume. Don't care which way, just do something.

Right into the toilet.

Fucking happy now ?

Wow, that spike must have really pissed off some bear whale. Like a mother bear defending her baby bitmex short.
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Last edit: May 26, 2018, 10:51:04 PM by realr0ach

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Point is the bulls were very rude to me and others for not playing along with the moon arrows when we were at 10K,

I thought it was actually quite entertaining when bitcoin shills wished death upon Tera by "vitamin b12 poisoning" for 'not being bullish enough about bitcoin'.

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Can you enable messages from newbies realr0ach?
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May 26, 2018, 10:43:21 PM

Wow, that spike must have really pissed off some bear whale. Like a mother bear defending her baby bitmex short.

It's probably the moron scammers who operate Bitfinex.  The largest trading entity on Bitfinex who has controlled the entire market singlehandedly since the price was $200 bought TONS of coins at $9k trying to prop up the market in the original crash and it seemed like they've been trying to whipsaw the market up and down to try and attract some type of momentum traders idiots to dump their bags on.
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Finally some volume. Don't care which way, just do something.

Right into the toilet.

Fucking happy now ?
Well fuck let's see what happens now.
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