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[kurious]

Dogs - I remember when we posted Spartans...

May I be nostalgic...?:

[fotosonics]

This is the way I see it. Support for hodl policy.

Except there's a clear downward trend since the ATH and no new ATHs have come in.  This has corresponded to an increase in bad newses, which don't appear to be slowing.  As it is confirmed that there really cannot be any more good newses from this point on, it's safe to conclude this downward trend will continue, as I have confirmed.

Except all the increase in good news which doesn't appear to be slowing and the "bad news" was clearly pointed out as mere tools to get clicks and ad sales for news companies.

Oh and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Confirmation in your own head that there cannot be any more good news ≠ confirmation.

You need to troll harder.

I cannot confirm what you just said.

I do not see anyone asking or needing confirmation from you. In fact, nothing you say can be confirmed. Nor is there agreement on what you consider "confirmed" and the empirical definition, hence the list of fallacies. If you can't agree that your argument is invalid because it's a fallacy then you are in quite the pickle my friend.

[proudhon]

This is the way I see it. Support for hodl policy.

Except there's a clear downward trend since the ATH and no new ATHs have come in.  This has corresponded to an increase in bad newses, which don't appear to be slowing.  As it is confirmed that there really cannot be any more good newses from this point on, it's safe to conclude this downward trend will continue, as I have confirmed.

Except all the increase in good news which doesn't appear to be slowing and the "bad news" was clearly pointed out as mere tools to get clicks and ad sales for news companies.

Oh and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Confirmation in your own head that there cannot be any more good news ≠ confirmation.

You need to troll harder.

I cannot confirm what you just said.

I do not see anyone asking or needing confirmation from you. In fact, nothing you say can be confirmed. Nor is there agreement on what you consider "confirmed" and the empirical definition, hence the list of fallacies. If you can't agree that your argument is invalid because it's a fallacy then you are in quite the pickle my friend.

I can confirm I am not in a pickle.

[alexeft]

Why Lee doesnt speak about the -40% in LTC diff on one week ?

I just saw that!!! WOW!!! It must have hurt!

[macsga]

Congratzzzzz !

Just one advice : sleep or take a nap whenever you can  

Yeah:)   This is my second, I know how that goes. Anyway some odds and ends then back to the hospital, see ya all.

CCMF!

YEAH !!! MOAR GOATZ!!!!!

Congratulations friend! My best wishes for a very prosperous life for you, your kids and your wife!

[empowering]

This is the way I see it. Support for hodl policy.

Except there's a clear downward trend since the ATH and no new ATHs have come in.  This has corresponded to an increase in bad newses, which don't appear to be slowing.  As it is confirmed that there really cannot be any more good newses from this point on, it's safe to conclude this downward trend will continue, as I have confirmed.

Except all the increase in good news which doesn't appear to be slowing and the "bad news" was clearly pointed out as mere tools to get clicks and ad sales for news companies.

Oh and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies


Confirmation in your own head that there cannot be any more good news ≠ confirmation.

You need to troll harder.

I cannot confirm what you just said.

I do not see anyone asking or needing confirmation from you. In fact, nothing you say can be confirmed. Nor is there agreement on what you consider "confirmed" and the empirical definition, hence the list of fallacies. If you can't agree that your argument is invalid because it's a fallacy then you are in quite the pickle my friend.

I can confirm I am not in a pickle.

starting to think you may be a pickle.

[fotosonics]

This is the way I see it. Support for hodl policy.

Except there's a clear downward trend since the ATH and no new ATHs have come in.  This has corresponded to an increase in bad newses, which don't appear to be slowing.  As it is confirmed that there really cannot be any more good newses from this point on, it's safe to conclude this downward trend will continue, as I have confirmed.

Except all the increase in good news which doesn't appear to be slowing and the "bad news" was clearly pointed out as mere tools to get clicks and ad sales for news companies.

Oh and this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies


Confirmation in your own head that there cannot be any more good news ≠ confirmation.

You need to troll harder.

I cannot confirm what you just said.

I do not see anyone asking or needing confirmation from you. In fact, nothing you say can be confirmed. Nor is there agreement on what you consider "confirmed" and the empirical definition, hence the list of fallacies. If you can't agree that your argument is invalid because it's a fallacy then you are in quite the pickle my friend.

I can confirm I am not in a pickle.

starting to think you may be a pickle.

[aminorex]

You need to troll harder.

Not so much.  He's quite good.  I mean, even people who are deeply averse to trolling begin to appreciate his work after a while.  I always feel a little better after a proudhon troll.  He's making the world a better place, and I wouldn't want him to overwork himself to exhaustion!

[proudhon]

You need to troll harder.

Not so much.  He's quite good.  I mean, even people who are deeply averse to trolling begin to appreciate his work after a while.  I always feel a little better after a proudhon troll.  He's making the world a better place, and I wouldn't want him to overwork himself to exhaustion!

A glorious confirm to you, sir.  Here, have 4000 newses.  I confirm.

[empowering]

You need to troll harder.

Not so much.  He's quite good.  I mean, even people who are deeply averse to trolling begin to appreciate his work after a while.  I always feel a little better after a proudhon troll.  He's making the world a better place, and I wouldn't want him to overwork himself to exhaustion!

You are right... say what you want but the guy is a pro troll - makes me smile with his "newses"

[fotosonics]

You need to troll harder.

Not so much.  He's quite good.  I mean, even people who are deeply averse to trolling begin to appreciate his work after a while.  I always feel a little better after a proudhon troll.  He's making the world a better place, and I wouldn't want him to overwork himself to exhaustion!

All you need to do is post something that makes sense and is a real solid one for the bulls, and the trolls become alarmed.

[Richy_T]

Its generally true. Its why women flip their moods so often and are never satisfied. Its why they say "you can never win an argument with a women" - because she is never arguing logic and facts.

omg

Lulz

[billyjoeallen]

This is the way I see it. Support for hodl policy.

I think you may have it backwards. The government, any government, is essentially an engine for driving money to the special interests. They do that through taxation and regulation to get distributed costs and concentrated benefits. Bankers may be a special interest group, but we are a more concentrated and therefore more special group. For bankers, it is far more cost effective to hedge against a bitcoin takeover by buying a small stake in it than it is to fight us with largely ineffective prohibitions and regulations. Most bankers who even know about bitcoin think it is a joke or a fad. The banksters who see it as a threat are not numerous enough to fight it and don't want to do it if their fellow bankers are going to free ride on their efforts. So they hedge and join us. The other bankers won't realize what a disruptive technology it is until it's too late. they are the Tower records and blockbuster video owners of the financial world.

[kurious]

This is the way I see it. Support for hodl policy.

I think you may have it backwards. The government, any government, is essentially an engine for driving money to the special interests. They do that through taxation and regulation to get distributed costs and concentrated benefits. Bankers may be a special interest group, but we are a more concentrated and therefore more special group. For bankers, it is far more cost effective to hedge against a bitcoin takeover by buying a small stake in it than it is to fight us with largely ineffective prohibitions and regulations. Most bankers who even know about bitcoin think it is a joke or a fad. The banksters who see it as a threat are not numerous enough to fight it and don't want to do it if their fellow bankers are going to free ride on their efforts. So they hedge and join us. The other bankers won't realize what a disruptive technology it is until it's too late. they are the Tower records and blockbuster video owners of the financial world.

I used to work in the music business - it was unreal how it resisted downloads, until it was too late and sank their entire business model.  

After fighting and slagging off Napster et al, Steve Jobs came along and took over 25% of the entire music business at a stroke - and it was game over.

They never saw it coming, refused to.  

[JorgeStolfi]

Bitcoincharts.com dropped BTC-e/USD? 

Now its seems that they list only BTC-e/EUR and BTC-e/RUR.  Yet Bitcoinwisdom.com still lists BTC-e/USD.

And they still don't list Huobi or OKCoin, but list BTC-China.  For technical reasons, or political?

[Davyd05]

Its generally true. Its why women flip their moods so often and are never satisfied. Its why they say "you can never win an argument with a women" - because she is never arguing logic and facts.

Oh come on, kind of generalising here, methinks - please don't scare whatever females might still be bothering to check in here away...?

Hence, the use of the phrase "Its generally true". For most women in most situations this is true, but in professional situations women are generally able to pull it together.

lol and all men are dicks, and ignorant to their arrogance...your reiteration of said statements sadly makes me believe Women are equally correct in assuming that...all in all every person I have ever communicated and interacted with dealt with things differently, there we're similarities, but very rarely did they coincide with sex. Either way my shit anecdotal at best. Just think your short sighted trying to categorize most women to fit that terrible stereotype.

[Walsoraj]

Bitcoincharts.com dropped BTC-e/USD? 

Now its seems that they list only BTC-e/EUR and BTC-e/RUR.  Yet Bitcoinwisdom.com still lists BTC-e/USD.

And they still don't list Huobi or OKCoin, but list BTC-China.  For technical reasons, or political?

BTCe trade data is likely faked as well.

[billyjoeallen]

I think you may have it backwards. The government, any government, is essentially an engine for driving money to the special interests. They do that through taxation and regulation to get distributed costs and concentrated benefits. Bankers may be a special interest group, but we are a more concentrated and therefore more special group. For bankers, it is far more cost effective to hedge against a bitcoin takeover by buying a small stake in it than it is to fight us with largely ineffective prohibitions and regulations. Most bankers who even know about bitcoin think it is a joke or a fad. The banksters who see it as a threat are not numerous enough to fight it and don't want to do it if their fellow bankers are going to free ride on their efforts. So they hedge and join us. The other bankers won't realize what a disruptive technology it is until it's too late. they are the Tower records and blockbuster video owners of the financial world.

I used to work in the music business - it was unreal how it resisted downloads, until it was too late and sank their entire business model.  

After fighting and slagging off Napster et al, Steve Jobs came along and took over 25% of the entire music business at a stroke - and it was game over.

They never saw it coming, refused to.  

Their business model is going to change regardless of whatever else they do. You can't uninvent new technology. If I was a bankster, I would try to pull a Steve Jobs (Steve Job?) using my existing market leverage while I still had it. The first bankster to break from the pack wins. Or they all lose and someone else just takes over their entire market. Bitcoin is coming. My bank closed today because of the weather. WTF?? the weather? seriously?

Bitcoin today is like the Internet before the World Wide Web. We don't even have our mass adoption app yet. We have email where we can message a few thousand other nerds.  Overstock, Coinbase and Bitfinex are like Usenet, telnet and gopher. Official approval is like when America Online, Compuserve and Prodigy opened their internet portals. Still waiting for our Mozilla Browser.

[electronistul]

Bitcoincharts.com dropped BTC-e/USD? 
Now its seems that they list only BTC-e/EUR and BTC-e/RUR.  Yet Bitcoinwisdom.com still lists BTC-e/USD.
And they still don't list Huobi or OKCoin, but list BTC-China.  For technical reasons, or political?

BTCe trade data is likely faked as well.

I would beg to disagree, I saw each and every move I made on that exchange "live", on Bitcoinwisdom. I'm nobody, with relatively small amounts, but i could identify my moves every time and they were accurate.
Now, whether they have their own "inside game" rolling on the exchange I don't know.

[fonzie]

Bitcoincharts.com dropped BTC-e/USD?  

Now its seems that they list only BTC-e/EUR and BTC-e/RUR.  Yet Bitcoinwisdom.com still lists BTC-e/USD.

And they still don't list Huobi or OKCoin, but list BTC-China.  For technical reasons, or political?

BTCe trade data is likely faked as well.

Sounds awesome. 3 of the biggest exchanges are probably faking their trading data and holding the price up. Will they all dissapear on January 31.??

1.Huobi
2:Gox
3.Btc-e.

Only Bearstamp will(might) stay. Guess in which direction the price will go?