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[pereira4]

I wouldn't be surprised if Chipmixer disappears within the next year or two. The average time for a mixer services seems to be around 3 years. 5 the strongest ones, as low as 1 for the weaker ones. We just had Bestmixer taken out by the cops recently... hopefully im wrong but that seems to be the trend. Chipmixer will probably go away in similar fashion than Bitmixer did. Probably even if the site isn't annihilated by the cops, the developers may just become increasingly paranoid after X year and start afresh.

In a way, not that different from exchangers.. Livecoin may go cryptopia eventually. Again, I hope im wrong, but let's not be naive here. Most crypto related services are short lived, except those that have heavily regulated.

Decentralize all the mixers! Make them un-cop-able!

Not possible in the classic sense of a server involved. Maybe with lightning network, but then again, there's people that will not trust anything but on-chain transactions.

Perhaps look into CoinJoin with wasabi's blinded bearer signatures as an improvement for the classic "dude hosting a website for tumbling coins" approach. There was recently a 100 people CoinJoin transaction which was successful.

Note that a server is involved in wasabi but the stuff that's logged wouldn't allow an attacker to connect ins and outs.

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[realr0ach]

Perhaps look into CoinJoin with wasabi's blinded bearer signatures as an improvement for the classic "dude hosting a website for tumbling coins" approach.

In the eyes of the govt it's laundering no matter how you try to obfuscate it.  Bitcoin is a govt tracking and control system that abolishes the 5th amendment.  Stop pretending that's not what it is and stop pretending the govt is ever going to allow you to tumble anything without being considered doing criminal activity.  If you don't want to be monitored in real-time by the slavechain, then you should boycott this garbage and use physical metals instead.

[Last of the V8s]

pereira4 nice to see you back, and particularly posting on this thread, saves me stalking you round the forum to read your good posts 

what did you mean about a deleted post?

[Ibian]

Perhaps look into CoinJoin with wasabi's blinded bearer signatures as an improvement for the classic "dude hosting a website for tumbling coins" approach.

In the eyes of the govt it's laundering no matter how you try to obfuscate it.  Bitcoin is a govt tracking and control system that abolishes the 5th amendment.  Stop pretending that's not what it is and stop pretending the govt is ever going to allow you to tumble anything without being considered doing criminal activity.  If you don't want to be monitored in real-time by the slavechain, then you should boycott this garbage and use physical metals instead.

Tell us where you buy milk with your silver and gold.

[realr0ach]

Tell us where you buy milk with your silver and gold.

Tell JayJuanGee you need an extra crewman for a MacGregor 26 north sea crossing.

[Ibian]

Tell us where you buy milk with your silver and gold.

Tell JayJuanGee you need an extra crewman for a MacGregor 26 north sea crossing.

Everyone needs milk. Good for your bones. Where do you exchange your shiny metals for white liquids?

[pereira4]

Perhaps look into CoinJoin with wasabi's blinded bearer signatures as an improvement for the classic "dude hosting a website for tumbling coins" approach.

In the eyes of the govt it's laundering no matter how you try to obfuscate it.  Bitcoin is a govt tracking and control system that abolishes the 5th amendment.  Stop pretending that's not what it is and stop pretending the govt is ever going to allow you to tumble anything without being considered doing criminal activity.  If you don't want to be monitored in real-time by the slavechain, then you should boycott this garbage and use physical metals instead.

Every gram of unreported gold you own buried on your backyard is also considered criminal activity. What's your point?  If you don't want to be monitored, as far as using metals goes, it's useless unless you live in an local Amish type community doing commerce strictly within those borders as anything outside it would get quickly confiscated. Anyone that has a real business is going to need to settle transactions globally for which gold is completely useless in the 21th century. Customs are monitored way tighter than Bitcoin transactions.

pereira4 nice to see you back, and particularly posting on this thread, saves me stalking you round the forum to read your good posts  

what did you mean about a deleted post?

I took a much needed break from posting on internet forums.

About the post: this one I click and doesn't show up:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg51407781#msg51407781

Edit ok it's actually there, it just wasn't scrolling all the way down because I have javascript turned off.

[Last of the V8s]

ok can't bear this any more
isn't theymos (very marginally) late with the DT1 list?
what's he cooking up now?
because this has to happen http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1067333.html  
any of our posh friends hear anything on the grapevine? LFc, nutildah, bones  

[fillippone]

ok can't bear this any more
isn't theymos (very marginally) late with the DT1 list?
what's he cooking up now?
because this has to happen http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1067333.html  
any of our posh friends hear anything on the grapevine? LFc, nutildah, bones  

Yeah!
Waiting this too...

EDIT: how comes any bottle opened with my relevant person cannot survive more than 45 minutes? That’s s a mystery to me.

[Last of the V8s]

ok can't bear this any more
isn't theymos (very marginally) late with the DT1 list?
what's he cooking up now?
because this has to happen http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1067333.html  
any of our posh friends hear anything on the grapevine? LFc, nutildah, bones  

Yeah!
Waiting this too...

EDIT: how comes any bottle opened with my relevant person cannot survive more than 45 minutes? That’s s a mystery to me.

gosh look at you mr smarty-pants http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1852120.html
we would have to call you sir? and not tease you for experimental english?

just wonder if theymos may change the system, hope you guys don't get disappoint.

even a whisky bottle?

edit forgot our own Dabs is dt1 since like forever
looks like mindrust also would be eligible http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/176777.html
under what i'm now calling the old rules

[rebal15]

If Paul Le Roux is really Satoshi, then Satoshi's wallet is in the hands of the CIA, and they probably already have the password, which could be obtained through torture.

I think the CIA and the FBI know who Satoshi is, so maybe it is why they did not interview john mcafee for his recent statements.

[JayJuanGee]

Trollgoossens, has your leader (((Satoshi))) come to give you your propaganda to recite yet for the day?

Satoshi is dead, you dumb fuck.

Don't be trying to attribute peeps here, with a known non-existent character. 

And, regarding your repetitive point about PMs... not interested.  Don't you have some other place to associate yourself with more like minded individuals, rather than striving, here, to somehow propagate your irrelevant assertions.

[El duderino_]

If Paul Le Roux is really Satoshi, then Satoshi's wallet is in the hands of the CIA, and they probably already have the password, which could be obtained through torture.

I think the CIA and the FBI know who Satoshi is, so maybe it is why they did not interview john mcafee for his recent statements.

Clever boy.... yeah they got Satoshi locked up in the secret agency basement...

[Biodom]

An interesting (and harsh!) critique of all ICOs.
https://medium.com/@jimmysong/why-icos-are-broken-3f918bd5b3fb

[El duderino_]

ok can't bear this any more
isn't theymos (very marginally) late with the DT1 list?
what's he cooking up now?
because this has to happen http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1067333.html  
any of our posh friends hear anything on the grapevine? LFc, nutildah, bones  

Damn V8 where is you on that list F***!!!!  

[JayJuanGee]

If Paul Le Roux is really Satoshi, then Satoshi's wallet is in the hands of the CIA, and they probably already have the password, which could be obtained through torture.

I think the CIA and the FBI know who Satoshi is, so maybe it is why they did not interview john mcafee for his recent statements.

McAfee is not going to voluntarily interview with any USA government agent in any kind of capacity, and probably would be reluctant to interview with any government agent that he cannot assure NOT to be cooperative with the USA government in some way....

In other words, haven't you heard that McAfee is running from the USA govt.. with the ironic twist that he is "running for president?"

Can you count on that kind of drug-induced walking bag of contradictions to actually provide you with any kind of credible intelligence... and yeah, right.. the latest inside info about "who is satoshi"?   

[Last of the V8s]

ok can't bear this any more
isn't theymos (very marginally) late with the DT1 list?
what's he cooking up now?
because this has to happen http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1067333.html  
any of our posh friends hear anything on the grapevine? LFc, nutildah, bones  

Damn V8 where is you on that list F***!!!!  

I wouldn't trust me with a bottle of whisky
seriously i don't do any bizniz here, and wouldn't want the hassle, and am blackballed by some folks, and not experienced enough in metatardation anyway

[fillippone]

ok can't bear this any more
isn't theymos (very marginally) late with the DT1 list?
what's he cooking up now?
because this has to happen http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1067333.html  
any of our posh friends hear anything on the grapevine? LFc, nutildah, bones  

Yeah!
Waiting this too...

EDIT: how comes any bottle opened with my relevant person cannot survive more than 45 minutes? That’s s a mystery to me.

gosh look at you mr smarty-pants http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/1852120.html
we would have to call you sir? and not tease you for experimental english?

just wonder if theymos may change the system, hope you guys don't get disappoint.

even a whisky bottle?

My English is as broken as my last (Italian) champagne (Austrian) crystal glass:fillippone loses grace when drunk.
Yeah I know a change in the rules or cap in numbers is required.
I see this coming so I won’t be disappointed.

[rebal15]

If Paul Le Roux is really Satoshi, then Satoshi's wallet is in the hands of the CIA, and they probably already have the password, which could be obtained through torture.

I think the CIA and the FBI know who Satoshi is, so maybe it is why they did not interview john mcafee for his recent statements.

Clever boy.... yeah they got Satoshi locked up in the secret agency basement...

[Last of the V8s]

I see this coming so I won’t be disappointed.

to add to your woes, this pace is retarded https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/
cf. https://www.datecalculator.org/days-from-today-calculator
Thursday 21 May 2020