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Question: Dec. 14 Closing Price:
<$6,000 - 10 (11.4%)
$6,000-$6,500 - 5 (5.7%)
$6,500-$7,000 - 9 (10.2%)
$7,000-$7,500 - 11 (12.5%)
$7,500-$8,000 - 18 (20.5%)
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>$9,000 - 20 (22.7%)
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July 27, 2019, 02:47:37 PM



Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.




Ready to make a bet on it ?

I bet NO at 99%.

Second that. 99.999%

You haven't even had time to watch it. Look at the cycle again. That last pump sticks out like a sore thumb. Markets simply don't do that naturally.



See what happens with Bitfinex/Tether on Monday. That may put this whole pump in a very different context.




So Bet or not ? If there is an escrow here for the bet.

1 BTC ?

wtf has betting got to do with any of this ? You think just because your hopium's strong the appraisal's wrong ?

The points are well made - in particular that rally was one of the more "engineered" moves bitcoin has ever made so the guy is reasonable in looking at the longer term picture.


But is fundamentally wrong. Halving is every 4 years. So cycles are not getting longer. Yes, they will not be same length, but some shorter then other. I believe current will be shorter then last.  What we know is that cycles will be weaker. And most people already put that factor in their prediction charts.

This video mentions that currently we can be in fake bull run. What is true. Depends how you look at things or of a mayor bull run in a cycle or of several smaller ones during one cycle.  Yes we are to high right now. But we will definitely not hit the bottom. There is less then 300 days to the halving. And already two times whole world saw halving in action. They will not want to stay behind.
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July 27, 2019, 02:54:24 PM

Wow I can see we're having another tiny dump so the thread is full of our regular beartroll retards with hilarious $4900 and even $2500 forecasts and shitty TAs.  Grin Grin Grin  I'm sure some weak hands are going to sell we can't prevent it (and maybe we shoudn't)? Who cares, just HODL on brethren!  Cool
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July 27, 2019, 02:57:00 PM

Wow I can see we're having another tiny dump so the thread is full of our regular beartroll retards with hilarious $4900 and even $2500 forecasts and shitty TAs.  Grin Grin Grin  I'm sure some weak hands are going to sell we can't prevent it (and maybe we shoudn't)? Who cares, just HODL on brethren!  Cool

HODL all the way down from $19,xxx but sell at $9,4xx.
Perfect noob/pussy/weak hands/cuckolding strategy.
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July 27, 2019, 03:03:53 PM


Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.




Probably the worst thing about this chart is that this YouTube guy will still have 13k followers even after he is proven massively wrong in early August. Its just more sensationalist TA nonsense from a guy who draws a hundred lines and circles on a chart and thinks he's Nostradamus. He should take a page from McAfee and say he'll eat his own dick if BTC doesn't sink to $2500 by early August, probably would double his subscribers.
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July 27, 2019, 03:03:53 PM

Another block was just found.

12.5 BTC less to be mined before the final cap.
Yes, final.

And one block closer to the reward halving.

Scarcity is coming.

🚀🚀🚀

https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1154952643082706944?s=20
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Indeed its getting more scarce every moment and at a v ery sudden moment its will move so fast that you actually can miss the train (be smart don't let that happen, prevent and buy asap) Cheesy

Also enjoy your Saturday bro's
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July 27, 2019, 03:05:17 PM

Holy shit mic, we posted at the exact same second, look at the post times, that was weird.

Its a doublepost timestamp.
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July 27, 2019, 03:07:03 PM

Holy shit mic, we posted at the exact same second, look at the post times, that was weird.

Its a doublepost timestamp.

Indeed Cheesy

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July 27, 2019, 03:09:32 PM

Wow I can see we're having another tiny dump so the thread is full of our regular beartroll retards with hilarious $4900 and even $2500 forecasts and shitty TAs.  Grin Grin Grin  I'm sure some weak hands are going to sell we can't prevent it (and maybe we shoudn't)? Who cares, just HODL on brethren!  Cool

HODL all the way down from $19,xxx but sell at $9,4xx.
Perfect noob/pussy/weak hands/cuckolding strategy.
HODL  is the reason that people lost there money and all we know that I can be manipulated it's not like gold but first we need that shitty coins with no value to leave the market than we will have a real BTC market I think we didn't reach the bottom yet cuz shit coins still exist
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July 27, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
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I'm beginning to lose my patience with you, jiggy; are you able to have a rational, back and forth discussion without immediately going on the defensive and resorting to inflammatory accusations?

You are new here, aren't you.
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July 27, 2019, 03:16:59 PM

in particular that rally was one of the more "engineered" moves bitcoin has ever made

(((bitcoin)))

https://www.ccn.com/alex-jones-tells-joe-rogan-george-soros-offered-me-5-million-to-pump-bitcoin/


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July 27, 2019, 03:38:19 PM

HODL  is the reason that people lost there money and all we know that I can be manipulated it's not like gold but first we need that shitty coins with no value to leave the market than we will have a real BTC market I think we didn't reach the bottom yet cuz shit coins still exist


Bitch, I’ve been buying & HODLING since 3 figures. I’ve lost nothing & I’m sure many here are similar.
The only people who lose money are those selling BTC for less than they bought for.

1BTC = 1BTC

You don’t lose anything if you don’t sell. The price will reach new ATH’s, it’s near enough guaranteed.
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July 27, 2019, 03:48:38 PM



Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.




Ready to make a bet on it ?

I bet NO at 99%.

Second that. 99.999%

You haven't even had time to watch it. Look at the cycle again. That last pump sticks out like a sore thumb. Markets simply don't do that naturally.



See what happens with Bitfinex/Tether on Monday. That may put this whole pump in a very different context.




So Bet or not ? If there is an escrow here for the bet.

1 BTC ?

wtf has betting got to do with any of this ? You think just because your hopium's strong the appraisal's wrong ?

The points are well made - in particular that rally was one of the more "engineered" moves bitcoin has ever made so the guy is reasonable in looking at the longer term picture.


Concerning the long term perspective : new ATH -> price discovery. OK nothing to add about this.

Just, think that all is manipulated and this same persons will push BTC to 2.5K$ (new low) in the next 2weeks...  No relation with hopium or whatever.. Just no sense for me and very unlikely.

That's why we can put a Bet on it. If for you this scenario is very likely.

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July 27, 2019, 03:51:01 PM
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There's no need to be upset:

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Holy shit mic, we posted at the exact same second, look at the post times, that was weird.
Its a doublepost timestamp.

We've just had our first public WO docking   Wink
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Holy shit mic, we posted at the exact same second, look at the post times, that was weird.
Its a doublepost timestamp.

We've just had our first public WO docking   Wink

Sheeeiiitttt

I only found out what docking was a couple of years ago. Had to google it Cheesy
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July 27, 2019, 04:06:35 PM

Holy shit mic, we posted at the exact same second, look at the post times, that was weird.
Its a doublepost timestamp.

We've just had our first public WO docking   Wink

So we double person merit it .........
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July 27, 2019, 04:08:46 PM
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

I see the battle for $10k is far from won and we're back where we were over a week ago... currently $9463USD/$12470CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Get your cheap coins while you can.

F*** I hate every buck we go lower.... to many have had the opportunity to buy in on extremely cheap prices for an EXTREMEly high valuable asset, so I don't like previous NO-coiners to get their hand on to cheap coins Cheesy

I hope the ones that bought and HODLed the previous higher price ranges will get their reward (for HODLing and keep on learning and working in the BTC-community)... I would hate some friends of me that bought big %'s of their wealth into BTC, that they would have to witness some NO-coiners of the group to buy in lower as they did Roll Eyes

I personally welcome the opportunity for noobs to get in at super-low prices of only 4 digits. Even no-coiners can have a Bitcoin epiphany, see the light, repent their lost-sheep no-coiner ways, and buy in while the price is down. It's never too late.

Those who paid pennies for their coins could have resented the opportunity for latecomers to buy in at double- or triple-digit prices during the big dips in 2013, and 2014-5. As it is some of those who bought during that last deep dip in August 2015 are among the most avid holders today, as are those who paid 4 digits in late 2013..

When we hit 6 digits (and beyond?) in the next few years only fools won't be holders. Most of us will be living happily ever after on Easy Street, even today's noobs.
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July 27, 2019, 04:11:11 PM


Halfway through 2021 before we even see 10k again according to this analysis. Just looking at the cycles.




Ready to make a bet on it ?

I bet NO at 99%.

Second that. 99.999%

You haven't even had time to watch it. Look at the cycle again. That last pump sticks out like a sore thumb. Markets simply don't do that naturally.

See what happens with Bitfinex/Tether on Monday. That may put this whole pump in a very different context.


The chart doesnt really imply 2500 in august to me, that would be an unprecedented drop straight down. But reverting back to the lower bound on the chart later this year is not unreasonable at all imo. We could revert back to the 2015 fractal and look back at it all as a libra/fed/tether minibubble that distorted the graph, had everyone thinking it was 2017 all over again, but then things went back to normal and everything smoothed out.

Its hard for me to deny the change of direction by the Fed, new stock market all time highs, Libra hype, soaring BTC dominance, and tether scare all at the same time created a perfect storm of hype and mania much earlier than we expected. Wouldnt be unreasonable for the majority of those gains to fade this year. If so its not really a bad thing but just a simmering down until the supply cuts in half to really get the party started.

Think of it as the ultimate testing of rocket thrusters for the real blast off post halving. A warning shot to all the banksters and fudsters of things to come. Just my take rn. A blast off to 20k will surely change my mind.

Yeah, but what if it ends up rhyming with 2013?
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FYI to those who are wondering where the market might be going.

The IRS doesn't bother to send out letters reminding 10,000 crypto owners that they can report capital losses on their crypto sales. 'Cause why would they do that?

Just sayin'.  Wink
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July 27, 2019, 04:41:54 PM

I know bitcoin, and you, litecoin are no bitcoin.   Tongue

Of course A is not equal to B, but they do share similarities in protocol design and proposed use/implementation.

I'd be very interested to hear your take on the differences between litecoin and bitcoin, jiggy.

Just like you really don't give any shits about what I think about litecoin, I don't give any shits about such topic.

I'm beginning to lose my patience with you, jiggy; are you able to have a rational, back and forth discussion without immediately going on the defensive and resorting to inflammatory accusations?

Stop proclaiming that you're the arbiter of my intentions, you aren't.

First of all, you already failed and refused to engage in genuine responses (rather than poo pooing like a typical troll/shill no coiner) regarding your previous quasi-irrelevant dumbass no coiner / bitcoin naysaying points that I already responded to.. and further,  this is not a thread to compare and contrast various shit coins.  Helrow?

Refuse to engage or respond? I'm on mobile most of the time, which makes it difficult to format long posts and reply to multiple users.

With regard to our previous discussion, I was asking questions while you would answer; you never actually responded by asking me any specific questions of your own.

If you would like me to answer some specific questions or provide information of some kind, please, ask away!

Don't force the matter, you diptwat.  If you were to have anything that was to be worthy of a question then I am sure someone would ask you.  I have not seen it, so far, but maybe at some point in the future, there might be something useful coming out of one or more of your posts.  I am pretty skeptical, but I have not completely lost hope, yet.

But if you consider the one aspect of bitcoin that you proclaim to NOT accept or understand, you might want to look into network effects, but no, you claim to not understand or believe that such network effects are important in the discussion,

Incorrect, as I specifically acknowledged the network effect and first mover advantage that bitcoin has, in my previous posts.

Maybe you are making some progress, perhaps?  I know that you want to present an aura that you are already wise, but something is definitely missing from your presentation.

I will grant that you seem to be doing both, 1) attempt to act like you don't know anything in order that you can present your trolling questions as if you are a newbie, and 2) when you are pointed out as being a retarded troll/shill then you shift gears to attempt to present as if you knew everything all along.

Largely you come off as full of shit and disingenuine, but there are probably either some newbies who might believe you or perhaps some other troll/shills who will seek common cause with your ongoing child-like nonsense.

instead you want to get caught up in distracting discussions about slight technical differences that may or may not exist

Protocol differences between projects definitely exist, you should be aware of this.

Yep.  Of course.

and in the end don't even matter in the scheme of things.. because bitcoin is not broken, so you have to overcome that presumption of brokenness first,

I never claimed the bitcoin was broken in any way, you're simply being disingenuous.

That's part of my point, you dumb ass.  If you cannot at least demonstrate that bitcoin is broken, then you have not even reached the first stage of being able to present some alternative as having any kind of meaningful relevance.

and you also have to show that your shitty ass project that you want to tout, whether litecoin or some other random project, whatever it is has sufficiently overcome whatever supposedly broken part of bitcoin that it is going to matter, instead of just being possibly absorbed into bitcoin as a tweak.

I'm not touting anything, I'm asking basic questions about the differences in protocol between projects.

Why would I need to answer any questions from you?  If you have some project that you want to compare with bitcoin, then you have the burden to present your facts and your arguments.  Why should anyone else be doing your work for you when there is nothing wrong with bitcoin, you diptwat?

Specifically, I've asked what makes bitcoin "better" or "best".
If your answer to this question is "it's more popular and it got there first", that's fine.

Bitcoin invented something meaningful.  If something meaningful has been invented then it cannot be reinvented.. it can be imitated.. those are different concepts.  So whether I am claiming bitcoin is better or best or not does not likely matter, because I have no burden to establish anything.  Maybe in some circles I might just claim that bitcoin is not broken, so if you want to replace it with something the burden is on you to show with facts, logic and persuasion that whatever you have is sufficiently better to cause networking effects to move over... so get your burdens straight.. there is no burdens for the incumbent to prove itself in any kind of substantive way.   The burden is on the wannabe.. like I already repeated many times...  

Am I turning blue in the face yet?




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What 600watt said..... hahahahahahahaha
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