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December 05, 2019, 04:51:15 PM

Bob:

1) When thinking about the time spent stuck at 10k, just remember that a few years ago we were bitching endlessly about how it was stuck at $600. That was so damn annoying, we wished it would DO SOMETHING....

Your $600 point does seem valid, here, yet there frequently can be questions and disagreements regarding where we are at, which is to try to speculate if we are going up or down from here and is the BTC price floating point pain bad enough.

I would say that in the vast majority of 2015 we were bouncing between $200 and $300... so yeah there was a lot of complaining, giving up and even expectation that the price was going to come back to those price points when it bounced out of that range at the end of 2015.

But then from November 2015 to May 2016, we were largely stuck in the $350 to $450 range, and surely a lot of complaining at that time, too. 

When we bounced above $450 in late May there was a lot of complaining between about August and October because BTC prices had regressed to $500s and $600s and there were questions whether the Bitfinex matter was going to take down the whole of bitcoin.

So even when we seemed to have recovered and reached new ATHs in the beginning of the year (2017), there were large FUD spreading attempts in March/April 2017 saying that sub $500 had to be revisited because BIG money was calling for it.. blah blah blah...


So, for me, it seems that we are currently stuck in the equivalence of the $350 to $450 range, yet of course, we have hardly any fucking clue regarding how long it is going to take to break back above our most significant local top of $13,880, and then from there are we going to get stuck a few more times before making a new ATH.

Some people think that breaking above $13,880 will cause making new ATHs as a kind of "given" and even though it does not seem to be too far, in terms of percentages to get from $13,880 to $19,666, there still could be some decent opportunities for profit taking in there. .. and attempts to drag this matter out and to shake as many weak hands as possible before real out of control FOMO can sink in. 

Seems to me that bearwhales have goals in life, too, and that is to keep BTC prices down for as long as they can and for as low as they can.  They cannot help their lil selfies, and their own behavior contributes towards causing the fucking outrageous explosive out of control FOMO behaviors that ensue.. 

Long term HODLers understand a lot of this, and the restriction of the new BTC supply does not help to make the bearwhale behavior less explosive, but instead to add more fuel to the likely ensuing explosion that seems almost inevitable, but maybe becomes worse and worse (better and better for HODLers) the longer that bearwhales are successful in keeping BTC prices down... Maybe they become victims of their own success, but it is more like something that they can only hold in the cage for so long... and any of us that really recognize and appreciate the pattern (even if we know that it is NOT guaranteed) are going to have a decent amount of our value prepared in such direction - meaning having had attempted to muster enough resources to accumulate a sufficient quantity of BTC without gambling too much.

Yeah, of course, there are still a lot of dumbasses who actually believe the bearwhale propaganda, yet some of them are going to convert and/or "become aware of bitcoin" during such out of control explosion period, and sure some of them will become casualties of that mess, but if they get in early enough, they still have decent chances of benefitting greatly, even if they are buying at $25k.. but of course, the price might subsequently come back down to $25k or even lower.... but anyhow whether it takes years to play out or months is still quite difficult to know, even though many of us have tentative feelings regarding how long this could take, and of course, I try to prepare myself for scenarios that are way the fuck less bullish than what even I have in my head to be quite likely.. .which is my lame-ass 6% per year price appreciation scenario... hahahahahahaha,,,,  and most of the damned time, I am quite satisfied to way the fuck outperform my own lame-ass conservative expectations.    Wink
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December 05, 2019, 05:08:16 PM

The French are revolting.
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December 05, 2019, 05:10:36 PM

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Every time they talk about these prices I get sick, it is torture, because no one told me about bitcoin at that time ... Cry
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December 05, 2019, 05:27:28 PM
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Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,433
Nothing has changed since the last 24 hours however Liverpool got another 3 points

Person I sit next to, at work, was at the Brighton game in hospitality he was sat next to Ian Rush. Thought some of you guys would be jealous.



Cool, I’ve done hospo a good few times. Had Alan Kennedy in our corporate box once (not my box - friends of a friend thing). I’ve played footy with Lallana’s son in the corridors there before Cheesy





Whats to hide ...... not bad looking at all, a bit smart actually Smiley #nohomo
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December 05, 2019, 05:29:54 PM

The French are revolting.
Not all of them . Some of their woman are tasty

Like how even the poolice are on strike
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December 05, 2019, 05:30:12 PM
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Bob:

1) When thinking about the time spent stuck at 10k, just remember that a few years ago we were bitching endlessly about how it was stuck at $600. That was so damn annoying, we wished it would DO SOMETHING....

......................................  !!!

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Whatever written there was easily doable in 1 or 2 lines, common man can't read a book every day  Kiss #nohomo

and BTW today = STFU you JJG

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December 05, 2019, 05:38:29 PM
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Two duct-taped banana work selling for $120,000 at Art Basel Miami, while the last one going for $150.000.

Didn't they thought about the decomposing process.. Undecided



https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/art-basel-miami-maurizio-cattelan-banana-scli-intl/index.html?utm_content=2019-12-05T06%3A35%3A05&utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_medium=social

This is effect ot the QE.
Easy money tide lift every boat.

Bitcoin hopelly will fix that.

Read Saifedean Ammous chapter on how hard money in the italian renaissance called for hard worked art (think about Michelangelo's frescoes on the Cappella Sistina).
Easy money calls for this .... i don't know how to define it.



This Everything Bubble is going to end very poorly.  Easy Money for those connected.  ZIRP and even NIRP.  Whether it goes with a bang or with a long whimper, hey, I don't know.

Diversification and low/no debt look like winning positions to me.
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December 05, 2019, 05:41:36 PM

Interesting..

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The impact of having 1% of a portfolio in Bitcoin

Therefore, it is of no surprise that investors have shown considerable interest in owning Cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin

Continue reading at http://bbfta.org


Source: https://twitter.com/BritBlockchain/status/1202596214736392192


Ya pueden ver, amigos?

That 1% (my BTC hodlings of my net) can mean something, more than one might think!

Vamos, pues...
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December 05, 2019, 05:45:34 PM

The French are revolting.

You're happy this afternoon, I don't want to think what you think of other nationalities. Grin
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December 05, 2019, 06:05:47 PM

The French are revolting.

In my experience, nothing gets the attention of the elites quite like the smell of burning BMW upholstery.

The frogs need to kick it up a notch.
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December 05, 2019, 06:09:52 PM

Good morning WO!
Observing @ $7,433
Nothing has changed since the last 24 hours however Liverpool got another 3 points

Person I sit next to, at work, was at the Brighton game in hospitality he was sat next to Ian Rush. Thought some of you guys would be jealous.



Cool, I’ve done hospo a good few times. Had Alan Kennedy in our corporate box once (not my box - friends of a friend thing). I’ve played footy with Lallana’s son in the corridors there before Cheesy





Whats to hide ...... not bad looking at all, a bit smart actually Smiley #nohomo

FFS, you doxed me, man.
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Interesting project. I would love to see the tx ID on mouse hover of every bubble. That can make it more informative.

Jeez thats relaxing.

One improvement I could recommend: 2 different background music playing. One a light happy tone for when there is a strong buy market and a dark tone for sell markets.

The French are revolting.

In my experience, nothing gets the attention of the elites quite like the smell of burning BMW upholstery.

The frogs need to kick it up a notch.

BMW is for turkish peasants. AUDI is where it's at. GET ON MY LEVEL!
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December 05, 2019, 06:22:25 PM

Why are you using his year old prediction?

There is another in his telegram channel and it is much more actual:



And here is his last comment (week ago):
There we have a weekly ma200 for 4000. We can visit it. And that fits the picture above.
So, according to this traingle picture we will see something around 4K till next year.

I am starting to think that maybe, new ATH won't happen any time soon. (in the next 2 years) If this shit graph becomes real, you should target the halvening after this one. Not the next one in May/2020. BTC can always surprise us suddenly but I am starting to lose hope.

It would make sense too. The bigger the triangle, the longer we wait for the next run. 20k ATH triangle was a lot bigger than the 1k ATH triangle so the bowl should be wider...
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December 05, 2019, 06:27:44 PM

The French are revolting.

In my experience, nothing gets the attention of the elites quite like the smell of burning BMW upholstery.

The frogs need to kick it up a notch.

It's the french view on democracy.
But it's fine that way. In most other "modern" countries most people are too tired, lazy or distracted to go on the streets and show the gov who is in charge.
Actually, it's we who pay these incompetent politicians, so it's them working for us, not the other way round. This is an aspect the french won't let their leaders forget.
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December 05, 2019, 06:33:57 PM

Why are you using his year old prediction?

There is another in his telegram channel and it is much more actual:



And here is his last comment (week ago):
There we have a weekly ma200 for 4000. We can visit it. And that fits the picture above.
So, according to this traingle picture we will see something around 4K till next year.

I am starting to think that maybe, new ATH won't happen any time soon. (in the next 2 years) If this shit graph becomes real, you should target the halvening after this one. Not the next one in May/2020. BTC can always surprise us suddenly but I am starting to lose hope.

It would make sense too. The bigger the triangle, the longer we wait for the next run. 20k ATH triangle was a lot bigger than the 1k ATH triangle so the bowl should be wider...

Even when you consider how many fingers were burnt at the end of Q4/2017 and after, it should naturally take a while to gain the needed faith into this powerful asset again. Until then it's mostly bears going to the party.
But why is the support line not starting at the very bottom, this would make a visit to slightly below $5000 more likely, if my weak eyes are seeing this correctly?
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December 05, 2019, 06:40:57 PM

Very sad to me how shit rises to the top, while hard working and passionate senior engineers get utterly abused and humiliated, by being forced to serve under managers that couldn't code "Hello World" in BASIC.

As I worked through the world of engineering and salaries I realized that there was a sort of ceiling as far as wages go. You could hit senior level and there was usually nothing above that.

Not being satisfied with just staying under that ceiling (high compared to most careers but a ceiling nonetheless) I went and got my Master's degree in IT management in order to step into that world where there is no ceiling (CEOs are at the top of that salary range and there is no limit there).

I hated the idea of being a manager. My master's degree was such a piece of cake compared to my Bachelor's in IT. I eventually discovered that you can get a significant bump to that ceiling by working overseas. The only limit there is how dangerous or shitty a location you're willing to go to but it tended to double or triple that ceiling. I was satisfied with that as an alternative to being management. Fortunately I was able to get out before becoming a manager. Even though, I guess now I am considered management level at Ocean Builders. Fortunately it does not feel like it yet.
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December 05, 2019, 07:11:32 PM

Very sad to me how shit rises to the top, while hard working and passionate senior engineers get utterly abused and humiliated, by being forced to serve under managers that couldn't code "Hello World" in BASIC.

As I worked through the world of engineering and salaries I realized that there was a sort of ceiling as far as wages go. You could hit senior level and there was usually nothing above that.

Not being satisfied with just staying under that ceiling (high compared to most careers but a ceiling nonetheless) I went and got my Master's degree in IT management in order to step into that world where there is no ceiling (CEOs are at the top of that salary range and there is no limit there).

I hated the idea of being a manager. My master's degree was such a piece of cake compared to my Bachelor's in IT. I eventually discovered that you can get a significant bump to that ceiling by working overseas. The only limit there is how dangerous or shitty a location you're willing to go to but it tended to double or triple that ceiling. I was satisfied with that as an alternative to being management. Fortunately I was able to get out before becoming a manager. Even though, I guess now I am considered management level at Ocean Builders. Fortunately it does not feel like it yet.

Just managing an IT company or branch doesn't make an IT manager in my opinion. It's just a manager then.
Only a manager with a computer degree should be allowed to become a master at IT management. This would save a lot of trouble.
Most managers i dealt with in the IT were former salesmen.
It's also a difference if a manager is a slave to the stock holders or monetary goals of the company, or if he/she can truly act in a global, balanced and economic way.

The other thing: Seniors are very good at playing the role of the sane voice in project making and design phases. But who needs sane voices in a world of profit maximizing?
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December 05, 2019, 07:20:39 PM

Many claim that Strong Gold Performance to Boost Bitcoin, In fact, gold could benefit from Bitcoin ..

According to  Mike McGlone (  Bloomberg Intelligence commodities analyst )

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The “Bitcoin is digital gold” narrative isn’t the only reason why the analyst is bullish on the cryptocurrency market heading into 2020. McGlone also wrote that Bitcoin is “winning the adoption race among crypto assets and is become increasingly scarce, which favors price appreciation.

Many expectations for Bitcoin by 2020, including:

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1.- The strong growth in U.S. equities, namely the S&P 500, implies that investors will soon start allocating more capital to risk-on investments like Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.

2.-The halving.

3.-While China has taken a harsh stance towards Bitcoin thus far, he noted that the authorities in China remain pro-digital assets because they are pro-blockchain.

A nice reading here: https://www.cryptomak.co.uk/bloomberg-bitcoin-price-likely-to-head-higher-alongside-gold/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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The French are revolting.

Nauseatingly revolting
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