wrostek
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February 25, 2014, 08:58:56 AM |
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Hmmm, mtgox home page source code now reads: <html>
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<title>MtGox.com</title>
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gizmoh
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February 25, 2014, 08:59:08 AM |
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On mtgox.com source code:
<!-- put announce for mtgox acq here -->
Confirmed News. Source from source code:MtGox Acquisition by Gox.com , by new owner: Mark Karpeles Junior  |
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raid_n
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February 25, 2014, 08:59:55 AM |
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I think today we can only be certain that things are uncertain
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JCviggen
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February 25, 2014, 09:00:08 AM |
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"At this point 744,408 BTC are missing due to malleability-related theft which went unnoticed for several years."
This simply can't be right unless a few insiders were stealing them. That document is FUD, guaranteed. I believe Mt.Gox are not solvent and will not survive on their own but that 744k BTC theft smells like BS like a lot of other stuff that doesn't make sense in that "leak". |
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medialab101
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February 25, 2014, 09:01:18 AM |
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"At this point 744,408 BTC are missing due to malleability-related theft which went unnoticed for several years."
This simply can't be right unless a few insiders were stealing them. My guess is someone spilled coffee on the cold storage backup... |
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raid_n
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February 25, 2014, 09:02:20 AM |
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"At this point 744,408 BTC are missing due to malleability-related theft which went unnoticed for several years."
This simply can't be right unless a few insiders were stealing them. My guess is someone spilled coffee on the cold storage backup... Well it makes a huge difference if the cold storage has been stolen or if the keys are lost |
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Mythul
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February 25, 2014, 09:04:00 AM |
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Hmmm, mtgox home page source code now reads: <html>
<head>
<title>MtGox.com</title>
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OMG PANIC ! |
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JCviggen
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February 25, 2014, 09:04:58 AM |
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OMG PANIC !
Everyone's trying to figure out if this is good or bad first. |
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BitThink
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February 25, 2014, 09:07:37 AM |
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"At this point 744,408 BTC are missing due to malleability-related theft which went unnoticed for several years."
This simply can't be right unless a few insiders were stealing them. This simply cannot be right. Nobody will overlook this for years. Therefore, this is definitely not the truth, or at least not the whole truth. |
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CoinHoarder
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
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February 25, 2014, 09:08:39 AM |
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"At this point 744,408 BTC are missing due to malleability-related theft which went unnoticed for several years."
This simply can't be right unless a few insiders were stealing them. That document is FUD, guaranteed. I believe Mt.Gox are not solvent and will not survive on their own but that 744k BTC theft smells like BS like a lot of other stuff that doesn't make sense in that "leak". I agree, after reading it a couple times I think the leak is fake.. it just seems so far fetched. It's weird that several parts of it have been confirmed independently though, something just isn't adding up. "A leak in our hot wallet" causing coins to be lost from their "cold wallet". If that truly happened, then they have the worst security practices ever... |
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raid_n
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February 25, 2014, 09:10:06 AM |
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Well the market is kind of treating the release as truth.
Gox can only win from this. If it is true well they've already pretty much lost everything so what is there to lose
If they lost a substantial amount of coins but much less than the 744k people will actually take it as good news
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Mythul
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February 25, 2014, 09:10:25 AM |
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So are real BTC more scarce than ever now ? Isn't that....errr....good news ?
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Yololintian
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February 25, 2014, 09:11:12 AM |
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I went to sleep 30 pages ago. Is all that happened that mtgox stopped trading until further notice?
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wrostek
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February 25, 2014, 09:11:22 AM |
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JCviggen
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February 25, 2014, 09:11:38 AM |
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I agree, after reading it a couple times I think the leak is fake.. it just seems so far fetched. It's weird that several parts of it have been confirmed independently though, something just isn't adding up.
"A leak in out hot wallet" causing coins to be lost from their "cold wallet". If that truly happened, then they have the worse security practices ever...
Well a cold wallet isn't really a cold wallet if it can leak coins through a hot wallet anyway. The number itself is very far fetched indeed. A theft of this magnitude would not go unnoticed for very long, not to mention if it were real a single person or entity would effectively have the power to dump every exchange's order book to pretty much zero. I think the problems at Gox are still much more fiat liquidity issues coupled with technical problems Mark has no clue how to solve. Oh, and the entire "internal" document refers to Gox in the 3rd person as if commenting on the situation from the outside. |
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MANofthePEOPLE
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February 25, 2014, 09:12:08 AM |
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So are real BTC more scarce than ever now ? Isn't that....errr....good news ?
How so? It's not like the coins vanished into the air just because they were stolen? |
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jojo69
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February 25, 2014, 09:12:11 AM |
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all this fud was engineered to let them buy out their liabilities on the cheap
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JCviggen
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February 25, 2014, 09:13:39 AM |
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Meanwile bitcoinbuilder has gone tits up, darnit...
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mmitech
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things you own end up owning you
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February 25, 2014, 09:14:35 AM |
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OK end up the FUD about gox https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/438138218614390784Jeff Garzik @jgarzik OK, here is my zero-evidence speculation: @MtGox got bought by someone willing to clean up the mess. I thought I should set some things straight. Please don't take this as official from Mt.Gox in anyway, but I have a duty to come clean and calm some of the rampant FUD and rumours. That "Crisis Management" document did not come from Mt.Gox internally, and there are a lot of attempts to discredit Gox. I don't want to irritate Mark or our benefactors, so I can't say much, but I can say that have a little faith. Mt.Gox is not "down". The landing page is blank, correct. Also, Gox.com should be active, and I know Mark and the rest of the management is extremely grateful for many benefactors who are currently in the process of arranging to make Gox as robust and top-notch as it can possibly be. Do not worry, and please keep the tin-foil hats away.. I know it's hard and I need to repeat this is my personal statement, not an official release, but I will say this - good news is coming. Have faith. Hm.. https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/438138218614390784  -ne0futur (the inevitable - "This account is new!" will start, and that's fine. so what? I make it a habit of avoiding reddit, but in this situation I think an exception was due) |
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wrostek
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February 25, 2014, 09:18:25 AM |
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I bet its the Winklevi that just bought out Gox!
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