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Most of us are in this scene long enough to have lived through at least one Halving. I cannot accept that anyone who's been through such experience would sell any amount of BTC now, unless it's part of a carefully laid out trading plan to take advantage of the volatility, and even then I would be very cautious.

Even though you are probably somewhat correct, AlcoHoDL, with your presumption that there are a decent number of WO thread regulars who have been through at least one halvening, in recent times, I am having my doubts about whether going through one halving is going to be enough for the vast majority of regular peeps, unless they happen to be decently rich before getting into bitcoin and putting a decent quantity of value into bitcoin before the effects of the halvening has truly kicked in.   

In recent times, I am thinking that the vast majority of regular peeps are going to need to hold through a couple of halvenings, unless kind of best case scenarios develop, and we should not be assuming best case scenarios.

Even if someone has established an investment portfolio of $100k, and then decide to be somewhat aggressive with BTC with a 20% investment into BTC, that would only be $20k and might not be a sufficient amount to reach fuck you status.

Surely, I agree with what seems to be your essential message, and that is that there is a kind of algorithm that is quite likely to play out that is going to cause a likely stepping up in the BTC price, so no one who is seriously trying to grow his/her BTC investment should be fucking around with any kind of large amount of BTC selling, but instead be focusing on accumulating BTC in this price arena while it lasts...  and my point remains that even if guys do that.. they are likely going to need a few BTC halvening cycles before they are likely to be able to get into a kind of comfort zone (or maybe 1.5 cycles might end up working out decently well for some too?)....

Maybe you're right and one Halving is not enough to harden a HoDLer so that he/she doesn't make a move like mindrust's. But going through (and surviving) the painful ATH-to-$3000 phase, you'd expect to be able to take the recent dip without much effort. If anything, it was (still is) a chance to accumulate some more coins before the incoming mathematically certain algorithmic event.

As I do not have the expertise and experience of your very well thought out DCA planning, I consider my approach of Buy-HoDL-Wait a safe bet against short-term volatility panic attacks and towards a sure-to-come (for me) "mooning" phase, of reaching "fuck you" or "comfortable" status. The latter is good enough for me, as my needs are not really Lambos, hookers and blow, but, rather, being able to realise a few pretty reasonably achievable dreams in the near future.
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 We had been keeping abreast of the news but things began to progress much more rapidly than we expected.  Early this morning, we got a text message from our government saying to get home asap because they were closing the border to all but non-essential travel.  Once we got the border, we were told to self-isolate for 2 weeks but it seems to be on the honour system.  We just managed to make it back to our preferred home.  Hopefully you won't have too much difficulty where you are.


Good to hear that. It's important to be already where you want to be.

Here it started like that.. The "honour system" you mention... Then it all escalated from there and in 48 hours we were in full nationwide lockdown.

(Funny note: It sounds as we are talking about an alien invasion and how it started in different places of the world before it all felt apart lol)

I am good, it's my GF's house where I also live frequently and have everything I need. But I recently bought a house with plenty of land which would be the PERFECT place to completely isolate from the world no matter how long this shit lasts... and not being there, precisely when it would be like the fucking paradise, is frustrating me to... unexpected levels. Plus I had plans (before this lockdown) to keep on the renovations I was doing myself, the gardening, getting the pool ready, etc etc.... which would be the best and most productive way to use all my time now and give a shit about everything else. Being unproductive when I could avoid it is taking on my nerves.

Anyway... I am polishing a master plan that will put to work before next monday at most if they don't relax the restrictions.

And if you say that you have to go to your property to feed your, chickens, horses, dogs, cats...
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LOL, Doomcallers.   Cheesy

Where are you now?

Oh God..... Good question. Wish I knew.

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A peer-reviewed study shows that 100% of patients, after 6 days of taking a Malaria drug were "virologically" cured

"Peer reviewed by who?"  The astute observer will notice I deleted the link to the peer reviewed trial from Slayer's quote.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/186Bel9RqfsmEx55FDum4xY_IlWSHnGbj/view I was trying to be sly.

To answer my own question:

"The study was conducted in accordance with the International Council for Harmonisation of Technical Requirements for Pharmaceuticals for Human Use (ICH) guidelines of good clinical practice, the Helsinki Declaration, and applicable standard operating procedures.
The protocol, appendices and any other relevant documentation were submitted to the French
National Agency for Drug Safety (ANSM) (2020-000890-25) and to the French Ethic
Committee (CPP Ile de France) (20.02.28.99113) for reviewing
and approved on 5th and 6th
March, 2020, respectively. This trial is registered with EU Clinical Trials Register, number
2020-000890-25."


https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/03/19/trump-says-fda-approved-anti-malaria-drug-chloroquine-to-test-as-coronavirus-treatment/#2412ffcc303d

“What’s also important is not to provide false hope,” said Hahn, who spoke after Trump, adding, “We may have the right drug, but it might not be in the appropriate dosage form right now, and it might do more harm than good.” I cherry picked a sentence loaded up with "might's" and "may." I cant controvert the data provided by Slayer in the peer reviewed clinical study, so this was the best I could do.  Smiley

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Trump strong armed past the FDA's push back on approval and got FDA to fully approve this for treatment.

Oh boy, Swole Trump to the rescue..... A softer man would have let the bureaucrats slow him down, but I'm not trying to give credit where it is due ya know.

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Its over boyz. Was a fun ride. Dont expect doom callers to apologize for scaring you out of your precious. Mindrust, I hope you buy back in. Its never a bad time to invest.
Are you drinking Cow Urine by chance? I've heard it can completely cure this virus.... Forgive my lashing out Slayer, I'm a bit emotionally invested in all this doom. Don't take my condescension towards you personally.

(Hey, it might work. However that's why you have studies and trials. And hate to say it but if it winds up killing more people than it saves that's not progress) I cant be bothered to research the drugs in question and learn that they have been in use a long time and people aren't in danger of being killed.

Kinda weird that my critique of a trial/study is that you should have trials and studies right??? Hell maybe I didn't even read the clinical trial/study Slayer posted. Guess I'll just keep you guys guessing.


Really perspicacious commentary. +1  Smiley
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Poor Mrs Slayer...

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This is a celebrity named Olga.

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Here is a long list of famous people w Covbull-19. Almost all are feeling fine, one has some body aches, and one is doing fine in a hospital.

Covbull-19 seems to have its strongest effects on money printers and T.P. lovers.

https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/famous-people-celebrities-with-coronavirus.html


Based on testing numbers about 11 percent of the NBA has Covbull. About half of a percent of the U.S. House of Representatives has tested positive.

They all are feeling fine.

I'm starting to wonder if somewhere between .5 and 11 percent of the U.S. has it and its actually extremely rare to get any symptoms stronger than the flu.

Germany has been doing a lot of testing. They have a .2 percent mortality rate. The new drugs should get it under flu death rates soon.

Prognosis: Covbull healthwise is a nothing burger and never comes close to killing as many as the 80k deaths caused by snake bites each year. Febrile money printers can't undo what they have done. Helicopter money is upon us.  Bernanke prophecy fulfilled.





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Poor Mrs Slayer... I read every word Mr. Slayer, this was all I had to say.


Nbd buddy, its like that sometimes when the doom callers are dealt with.  Wink
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March 20, 2020, 08:14:47 AM

Morning fam,

Observing $6,453 $6,558 $6,613. Everything seems a little better right now regarding bitcoin. 53 days until the halving, we might just be getting back on track - https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

Where’s HairyMaclairy & his fractal? Be good to see if we’re following the fractal or still below?
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Going back to $7000 seems very reasonable at this point.





My theory: they sat of the pile of USD for 2-3 days and decided they just couldn't take it anymore.
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Sorry Doom Boyz, the fear narratives are melting. Pump time is here.
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Up until 2012, insider trading was perfectly legal for members of Congress. Technically it is illegal now, but proving it in court would be quite difficult.
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This is a celebrity named Olga.

random calender type pic of girl (ukraine's miss march?)

Here is a long list of famous people w Covbull-19. Almost all are feeling fine, one has some body aches, and one is doing fine in a hospital.

Covbull-19 seems to have its strongest effects on money printers and T.P. lovers.

https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/famous-people-celebrities-with-coronavirus.html


Based on testing numbers about 11 percent of the NBA has Covbull. About half of a percent of the U.S. House of Representatives has tested positive.

They all are feeling fine.

I'm starting to wonder if somewhere between .5 and 11 percent of the U.S. has it and its actually extremely rare to get any symptoms stronger than the flu.

Germany has been doing a lot of testing. They have a .2 percent mortality rate. The new drugs should get it under flu death rates soon.

Prognosis: Covbull healthwise is a nothing burger and never comes close to killing as many as the 80k deaths caused by snake bites each year. Febrile money printers can't undo what they have done. Helicopter money is upon us.  Bernanke prophecy fulfilled.


There are two major strains of SARS-CoV-2. One is causing 99% "mild" symptoms. The other one is not so nice.
Ask fillippone. Every day there are more young men on respirators in Italy. It's delayed but it will spread in the USA too.
Build your house of cards.

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Remember, shorters preaching doom aren't your friend right now. They will wear disguises and try to lure you into the sewer to panic sell.

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They want your precious. Hodlvirus will keep you safe.
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 We had been keeping abreast of the news but things began to progress much more rapidly than we expected.  Early this morning, we got a text message from our government saying to get home asap because they were closing the border to all but non-essential travel.  Once we got the border, we were told to self-isolate for 2 weeks but it seems to be on the honour system.  We just managed to make it back to our preferred home.  Hopefully you won't have too much difficulty where you are.


Good to hear that. It's important to be already where you want to be.

Here it started like that.. The "honour system" you mention... Then it all escalated from there and in 48 hours we were in full nationwide lockdown.

(Funny note: It sounds as we are talking about an alien invasion and how it started in different places of the world before it all felt apart lol)

I am good, it's my GF's house where I also live frequently and have everything I need. But I recently bought a house with plenty of land which would be the PERFECT place to completely isolate from the world no matter how long this shit lasts... and not being there, precisely when it would be like the fucking paradise, is frustrating me to... unexpected levels. Plus I had plans (before this lockdown) to keep on the renovations I was doing myself, the gardening, getting the pool ready, etc etc.... which would be the best and most productive way to use all my time now and give a shit about everything else. Being unproductive when I could avoid it is taking on my nerves.

Anyway... I am polishing a master plan that will put to work before next monday at most if they don't relax the restrictions.

And if you say that you have to go to your property to feed your, chickens, horses, dogs, cats...

Yeah, that was Plan A. I do indeed have some feral cats wandering around the property. A couple of them mostly living there. I do have water and food dispensers for them that will run out soon. They are not really "mine" so no documentation... but I could show the surveillance camera footage if questioned... But donno, doesn't look like a solid alibi but more like a false excuse. Also I have heard they are some times registering provided information and could contrast it next time you are stopped, more so when it's just your word without any supporting documentation for your claims.

Plan B. I have prepared all documentation I could find to "prove" it is my "usual home", like deed, internet fiber bill, bank statements, etc... This is important because it is not the home I have in my National Identity Card, nor the one in fiscal records being all three different.

So I can "prove" I am living there, ok... now comes the problem that I am 15km away and also I need an "authorised reason" to go out. So I will go to the pharmacy here to get some meds and maybe to a Carrefour to try buy something usually "scarce" (Maybe TP).

If I am questioned why I did go that far and not to the supermarket a few hundred meters away (from my real destination) I will explain that I couldn't find the TP and decided to drive to the Carrefour because I assumed they would have the TP and also knew there were a nearby pharmacy.

That is if I am questioned while still being near my origin point. As I get closer to my destination without being stopped I will go to a gas station and refuel and that will become my new (more credible) explanation.

...

This is ridiculous.

At least Bitcoin is pumping. This is fine... sorta.
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Poor mindrust  Cry
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This is a celebrity named Olga.

random calender type pic of girl (ukraine's miss march?)

Here is a long list of famous people w Covbull-19. Almost all are feeling fine, one has some body aches, and one is doing fine in a hospital.

Covbull-19 seems to have its strongest effects on money printers and T.P. lovers.

https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/famous-people-celebrities-with-coronavirus.html


Based on testing numbers about 11 percent of the NBA has Covbull. About half of a percent of the U.S. House of Representatives has tested positive.

They all are feeling fine.

I'm starting to wonder if somewhere between .5 and 11 percent of the U.S. has it and its actually extremely rare to get any symptoms stronger than the flu.

Germany has been doing a lot of testing. They have a .2 percent mortality rate. The new drugs should get it under flu death rates soon.

Prognosis: Covbull healthwise is a nothing burger and never comes close to killing as many as the 80k deaths caused by snake bites each year. Febrile money printers can't undo what they have done. Helicopter money is upon us.  Bernanke prophecy fulfilled.


There are two major strains of SARS-CoV-2. One is causing 99% "mild" symptoms. The other one is not so nice.
Ask fillippone. Every day there are more young men on respirators in Italy. It's delayed but it will spread in the USA too. I like pretending I haven't read all the climate data from our earlier convos. Washington matches the needed criteria but its already fizzled out there. New York matches it and its peaking now. I also chose to ignore the success of the new drug treaments that are helping make this a nothing burger.

Build your house of cards. I'm scared, why aren't you?

Bitcoin doesn't care  Grin

Because we are talking about a fraction of the deaths snake bites cause each year.  Roll Eyes

Yes, King Bitcoin will do well from all the money printing the hysteria and panic have caused. The hysteria is melting away, but the printed money will not.

Doom callers will not apologize for scaring newbs out of coins.

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This is a celebrity named Olga.

...

Here is a long list of famous people w Covbull-19. Almost all are feeling fine, one has some body aches, and one is doing fine in a hospital.

Covbull-19 seems to have its strongest effects on money printers and T.P. lovers.

https://www.vulture.com/2020/03/famous-people-celebrities-with-coronavirus.html


Based on testing numbers about 11 percent of the NBA has Covbull. About half of a percent of the U.S. House of Representatives has tested positive.

They all are feeling fine.

I'm starting to wonder if somewhere between .5 and 11 percent of the U.S. has it and its actually extremely rare to get any symptoms stronger than the flu.

Germany has been doing a lot of testing. They have a .2 percent mortality rate. The new drugs should get it under flu death rates soon.

Prognosis: Covbull healthwise is a nothing burger and never comes close to killing as many as the 80k deaths caused by snake bites each year. Febrile money printers can't undo what they have done. Helicopter money is upon us.  Bernanke prophecy fulfilled.


Dude, you are not getting it, do you?

It's not the fucking Ebola, yeah, and it may be even softer than the flu for most persons but:

1) Unlike the flu, no one is inmune
2) It is highly contagious... probably more than the flu.
3) Some of the very few people that have bad symptoms usually develop a very bad pneumonia.
4) Patients with a bad pneumonia usually need ventilators to have a chance to survive.
5) We don't have more than a few thousands ventilators and it is very hard to obtain more right now because every fucking country needs them and manufacturers are overwhelmed.
6) There is also a complete scarcity of masks and other personal protection items.. Which makes anyone going anywhere near an hospital or a doctor, for whatever reason, to have all the chances to be infected.

In Italy the number of people needing ventilators to survive have already exceeded the number of available ventilators. Which, btw, are also needed for some things other than this covid thingy. In Spain we are quickly reaching that critical ceiling in some regions like Madrid.

This is not about number of deaths but about the medical services being overwhelmed and unable to keep giving proper treatment to the patients that need it. So every effort it is being focused in slowing the spreading of the virus trying to maintain the figure of people needing ICU/ventilators below the number of available ones... until everyone have already been exposed to it... or a vaccine is ready.

Get it now?
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