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[Arriemoller]

If you do drop dead from a second infection the vaccine trials are going to get very interesting.
everyone that has been vaccinated will drop dead when they are exposed to the virus. That's gonna make people keep their distance.

[JayJuanGee]

I bought 0.35 Bitcoin recently when the price hits $3,850

Best decision I ever made, what a profit.  

And YES, Bitcoin was already dead long time ago.

And, you always (and only) bang 10s, too.  


 

Those were mine. I sold them by accident. Please can I have them back. I’ll give you £5 for your trouble.

Yep... I know that it is scary when the price is plunging so damned drastically, but experienced BTC HODLers should be prepared for such wildness, and such wildness in bitcoin is NOT likely to be over any time soon.... actually, seems that the odds for outrageous wildness outweigh the odds for not having outrageous wildness.  That is part of what makes bitcoin such a great investment to the upside is because it is so god damned new that so many peeps do not recognize or appreciate its value, but long time BTC HODLers should know better in terms of both recognizing and appreciating BTC's value, so that either they are buying on dips or at minimum they are not selling on dips. 

Seems that peeps have difficulties learning, even long time BTC HODLers.

[Arriemoller]

I'm going to bed now. I have one of those nice British crime novels I want to finish.
It's "The Chalk Pit" by Elly Griffiths, Book #9 in the Ruth Galloway series if anyone wants to know.
They are quite enjoyable.

https://mysterysequels.com/ruth-galloway-series-in-order/the-chalk-pit

[hodl_2015]

remember
the thing mutates
and there is suggestion that the second round kills you deader than shit

I read that corona viruses are stable and not prone to mutate, unlike the flu.
I don't believe "the second will kill you" rumors, haven't read that in any reputable paper.

It's a single-strand RNA virus. It may be relatively stable, and the mutations may be unlikely to have much effect, but it still mutates quite a lot.

[jojo69]

remember

the thing mutates

and there is suggestion that the second round kills you deader than shit

I read that corona viruses are stable and not prone to mutate, unlike the flu.
I don't believe "the second will kill you" rumors, haven't read that in any reputable paper.

let's hope

I don't know shit, just a monkey with a keyboard here

[bitserve]

P.S.: Also, it is not more health workers what we need right now. It is fucking ventilators and PPE.

I am not going to deny that there is a decent amount of importance regarding ventilators and PPE...

If by "a decent amount of importance" you mean that people is ALREADY dying because there are not enough ventilators and doctors need to triage and decide who gets one and have a (good) chance to live and who doesn't and just dies from asfixia. Then yes... there is a decent amount of importance regarding ventilators.

but I am inclined to believe that testing is amongst the most important in order to stop the fucking mass panic and the shutting down of everything.  Fuck that shit.

So, 100x up on various testing methods and production of tests and getting everyone the fuck tested.  Thereafter some folks are going to get a green light... or at least understand what their status is and whether or not they can interact.. and of course, testing is not going to be a one and done thing, but it is likely the path forward towards opening businesses back up and lifting travel/movement restrictions.

Not yet. First get things under control. Do you know what is another reason almost all activity has been shut down? Because as soon as the hospital are kept at maximum capacity you can't "afford" to have any kind of accident that requires medical attention, ie: a car crash, a construction work accident, etc.... So you better avoid that.

We don't know how many people is infected (probably one or two orders of magnitude more than current figures)... but just knowing there are way more than we can cope with should probably enough information. The figure we can rely on is occupation of ICU beds and, more difficult to inmediately "create" new ones, ventilators... and we have already run out of them. That's the problem that needs to be solved.

Until then, this thing is way bigger than being infected or not... most people will eventually be and that is not such a big deal but, right now, even inmune people (if there is such a thing) can't have access to health care if they need it. You better don't get ill now or you might be fucked.

Depending on where you live YMMV. But things are quickly changing EVERYWHERE day after day.

[xhomerx10]

A new Day, a new restriction in Italy.

Now it is forbid to move out or your local municipality.

Coronavirus, ban on the movement of people from the municipality where they are "except for proven needs"

https://www.corriere.it/cronache/20_marzo_22/coronavirus-divieto-spostamento-le-persone-comune-cui-si-trovano-af7a9136-6c51-11ea-8403-94d97cb6fb9f.shtml

Italy has now closed every non-essential activity.
You can exit from home only in a 200 m radius, for whatever reason, but work and food shopping.
Many supermarkets have now restricted opening hours, in addition only one person per family can enter the shop.

The only last step to be exactly like China is welders on the house doors.

Huh?  is that true?

There was not welding of doors in china, was there?

 It was going on but we'll never know how widespread it may or may not have been.

https://youtu.be/XJTDeh88hww

[vapourminer]

remember

the thing mutates

and there is suggestion that the second round kills you deader than shit

I read that corona viruses are stable and not prone to mutate, unlike the flu.
I don't believe "the second will kill you" rumors, haven't read that in any reputable paper.

let's hope

I don't know shit, just a monkey with a keyboard here

i thought mutations usually were in the less lethal direction as the virus wants the host to survive after all.. but same here, just another monkey shitposting.

was weird grilling meat out on the deck in perfect comfort the other day while knowing there is a war coming. human vs the virii. who will win..

[Cryptotourist]

Guys, I'm not at all religious, but I certainly don't appreciate where this is going.
Like, for real? You have to be shitting me.

I prefer to drop dead right now - than to physically mark me in any way, against my will - like sheep.
Do wake the fuck up. It is matter of freedom. This what is really tested.

Peeps like you deserve an implanted chip, so TPTB can unambiguously track your surly lil ass.  


 

Jay Juan Gee joking,
humor value set to full,
error and reboot.

#haiku

[JayJuanGee]

Worldometers just reported over 12k cases in New York today! See below...
Some idiot lady just walked past me going into a supermarket coughing like crazy!
Maybe Bitcoin could hit 4800$ again soon imho

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I figured that you, Hyperjacked, would not have sufficient stamina or self-restraint to last very long in terms of your holding back from FUD spreading nonsense... hahahahhahaha

In other words, welcome back to your real and true underlying bear bullshit lil selfie... 


 

[Toxic2040]

Looks like another round of testing long fib support in the short term.

1h



As we are imho, in a sentiment market atm..you can pretty much throw technicals out the window for the now.  That being said..a clearer picture should develop after the weekly close this afternoon.  #dyor
W

#cleanhands2020

[JayJuanGee]

Guys, I'm not at all religious, but I certainly don't appreciate where this is going.
Like, for real? You have to be shitting me.

I prefer to drop dead right now - than to physically mark me in any way, against my will - like sheep.
Do wake the fuck up. It is matter of freedom. This what is really tested.

Peeps like you deserve an implanted chip, so TPTB can unambiguously track your surly lil ass.  


 

Jay Juan Gee joking,
humor value set to full,
error and reboot.

#haiku

No reboot necessary.   

[fillippone]

Hello gang,

I don't usually do this kind of thing, but I'd like to point out a valuable bitcoin related initiative.

Helperbit is an Italian company that deals with Peer to Peer donations, with maximum transparency:

Helperbit: the most innovative way to raise funds
TRANSPARENT - We use Blockchain technology to offer full transparency of economic flows

FREE - No registration fees or hidden costs

SAFE - You have full control of your funds thanks to Helperbit's Multifirma Bitcoin Wallet

POWERFUL - Bitcoin and altcoin supported

They are organizing a fundraiser for an advanced medical post for pre-triage:

COVID-19 Advanced Medical Post For Pre-Triage

COVID-19 Advanced Medical Post For Pre-Triage In Italy


CREATED BY:Croce Rossa Italiana | Comitato Colli Albani
BITCOIN ADDRESS:3NpNJfgpYVyZSa8YCfUufC3idVtF3iSX6d

UPDATE March 15th
The project has reached the target goal of € 10,000 to purchase the AMP: we did it thank to your generosity!
But we don't stop here, we reopen the fundraising campaign with a new goal: to complete the AMP core structure with the accessories necessary for emergency operations, such as a DefiMonitor (a defibrillator with vital signs monitor).

Regarding the second level Advanced Medical Post for COVID-19 pre-triage, we are proceeding with the purchase of the material to be ready for its deployment in the local area.

Your support is greatly appreciated!
Thank You!

———————————————————————————————

PROJECT DESCRIPTION
The Coronavirus disease in Italy has created a national health emergency. At the time of writing we have had more than 31.5 thousand confirmed cases and 2503 deaths. It is already difficult to locate the intensive care beds when needed and we are still a long way from peak infection.
See the latest officially confirmed data at: http://tiny.cc/07s7kz

The Italian Red Cross | Colli Albani Committee is asking for Bitcoin donations (and other cryptocurrencies) to purchase and set-up a Second Level Advanced Medical Post for pre-triage of COVID-19 cases.

Our target of 10.000 € will be used to purchase the core infrastructure and medical equipment for the project. Any surplus will be used to provide medical staff with the personal protection they need.

Here the original thread where they presented their project on BitcoinTalk in 2015:

Helperbit P2P Aid - natural disaster and bitcoin

Disclaimer:

• I am not in any way related to Helperbit (I only attended the presentation of their project by their founder Guido Baroncini Turrichia years ago at a Bitcoin Meetup in Milan)
• I also place it above all to give an example of how the blockchain can be used to add transparency to a project
• It is not an obligation to donate funds, everyone makes their own assessments, based on their possibilities, inclinations and preferences.

Hey guys,
notificing a few donations arrived since I published this post.
https://app.helperbit.com/project/5e6a64ee84cb8662d901a29c

Of course I dream some of us WOers donated a few (more than a few) sats to this cause.
Even if it was other people, it doesn't matter.
Faith in humanity restored.
 

[JayJuanGee]

Bitcoin above $80K

But... but... you're trying to say I'll be too old for the $100k party? Damn...  

Not at all. Before 2030 comes I'm almost positive we'll see a spike above that.

What I'm talking about is the low, or sideways, price of BTC will float around ~$80K  in ten years. Or higher.

And by that time asset inflation will have been really really bad.

The longer that I have been studying the bitcoin space, the more I have come to consider that both the bottom spikes and the bottom floating arena are amongst the more important factors, rather than the various upward price spikes, and of course, nothing is guaranteed, even while "~$80K  in ten years" as a floor seems to be a relatively conservative bet......  

and yeah, it could be argued that some of us are drinking too much BTC kool-aide, but given the whole way that these matters are playing out, bitcoin remains bullish as fuck.. and surely, hope that many of us (including yours truly) is still alive and well and even feeling powerful enough to witness 2030 and even to enjoy the likely wealth from such passage of events... thinking about it.. a floor BTC price that is more or less 13x greater than our current bouncing around price.

For younger folks, folks just learning about bitcoin, folks with a very limited budget or even folks who fucked up in their bitcoin strategy(ies) in the past (not only mindrust, but others), you should be able to figure out a way to reasonably and prudently profit from this decently likely situation, without going too fucking crazy in terms of a target timeline and not gambling too much with your own finances or psychology, either... and even DCAing a modest amount of $100 per month (or whatever amount that you can reasonably manage without devolving into a mindrust-like meltdown) is going to likely put you in a very fucking good (great) place in 10 years or so.

Well said JJG. DCAing every month or three is a much better strategy that just FOMOing in during every bull run spike.

I mean, even if my conservative prediction of a $80K/btc floor in ten years turned out to be wrong, and it was instead say half of that. $40K+/btc. That's still, what, like 7X higher from here? Tell me what stock or other investment would do that by 2030? I'd be willing to bet none of them. None. Certainly not a corporate-blessed 401K, that's for damn sure.

For fk sake, even if people didn't like or want to own Bitcoin, they should at least be buying some Gold or Silver and hold it long term. But the sheeple aren't even willing to do that much. And then ten more years pass by and they wonder why they feel even poorer (Pssst! It's stagflation, stupid).  

I agree with everything you said including the fact that BTC could end up way under performing your conservative investment and still end up being a very decent investment.  I don't consider gold/silver to deserve any kind of close to equal mention in terms of reasonable hedges, but I guess that I get your point about the stupid-ass monetary printing that is going on, and you would think that gold/silver should perform somewhat better than traditional investments, even though even gold/silver are so goddamned manipulated that it is really difficult to know if they are actually going to end up holding their value relative to other fiat-based asset classes..

Anyhow, I think that they are hardly even worth mentioning, here, except maybe if someone has a portion of his/her portfolio that is dedicated to dollar hedges, and maybe 95% or so of that would be bitcoin and around 5% would be PMs such as gold/silver... of course, people will vary on this, so I guess that I am just hesitant about any inference of a gold/silver endorsement, even during these crazy times.. and even though I do get your "better than" sitting on your hands point.

[Toxic2040]

let's hope

I don't know shit, just a monkey with a keyboard here

Can only type 12 wpm...but has zero fomo..   

covid-19 - 0   /  Monkey - 1

[Hyperjacked]

Worldometers just reported over 12k cases in New York today! See below...
Some idiot lady just walked past me going into a supermarket coughing like crazy!
Maybe Bitcoin could hit 4800$ again soon imho

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

I figured that you, Hyperjacked, would not have sufficient stamina or self-restraint to last very long in terms of your holding back from FUD spreading nonsense... hahahahhahaha

In other words, welcome back to your real and true underlying bear bullshit lil selfie... 


 

Here I am in a corona hot zone and I have your stupid comments!!! Really??? I didn't sell anything moron! I bought some food and supplies for my family to ride this out. I don't panic and have no fear so take your comments and stick it you self assuming fool.
What I said was an honest assessment of the current situation  

[JayJuanGee]

P.S.: Also, it is not more health workers what we need right now. It is fucking ventilators and PPE.

I am not going to deny that there is a decent amount of importance regarding ventilators and PPE...

If by "a decent amount of importance" you mean that people is ALREADY dying because there are not enough ventilators and doctors need to triage and decide who gets one and have a (good) chance to live and who doesn't and just dies from asfixia. Then yes... there is a decent amount of importance regarding ventilators.

but I am inclined to believe that testing is amongst the most important in order to stop the fucking mass panic and the shutting down of everything.  Fuck that shit.

So, 100x up on various testing methods and production of tests and getting everyone the fuck tested.  Thereafter some folks are going to get a green light... or at least understand what their status is and whether or not they can interact.. and of course, testing is not going to be a one and done thing, but it is likely the path forward towards opening businesses back up and lifting travel/movement restrictions.

Not yet. First get things under control. Do you know what is another reason almost all activity has been shut down? Because as soon as the hospital are kept at maximum capacity you can't "afford" to have any kind of accident that requires medical attention, ie: a car crash, a construction work accident, etc.... So you better avoid that.

We don't know how many people is infected (probably one or two orders of magnitude more than current figures)... but just knowing there are way more than we can cope with should probably enough information. The figure we can rely on is occupation of ICU beds and, more difficult to inmediately "create" new ones, ventilators... and we have already run out of them. That's the problem that needs to be solved.

Until then, this thing is way bigger than being infected or not... most people will eventually be and that is not such a big deal but, right now, even inmune people (if there is such a thing) can't have access to health care if they need it. You better don't get ill now or you might be fucked.

Depending on where you live YMMV. But things are quickly changing EVERYWHERE day after day.

You are seeming to be really in a kind of panic mode, and to me it seems that better information is going to be  important in this regard, so putting a lot of efforts into various kinds of testing does seem to remain a very important way forward to helping to alleviate some of the various ongoing panic concerns. 

World-wide blanket shut downs and social isolation is just not sustainable nor practical, so hopefully we do not just enter into a world in which everything around the whole world is blindly (and out of fear) shut down for 3-12 months out of a narrow focus that bad things are going to happen (bad things are always happening, but bad things happen when things are shut down too..).. there is no absolute solution to avoiding bad things, and there are usually multi-faceted approaches, perspectives, contradictions and even injustices that occur no matter what courses of action are pursued.

[Wekkel]

wtf is that scammy shit doing in your sig? deeponion was outed long ago was it not?

Yes, that was some time ago, but I like the crew and visit their forum once in a while. Good times. Maybe it will pump again once day. I admit being too lazy to change anything to my profile 

[JayJuanGee]

remember

the thing mutates

and there is suggestion that the second round kills you deader than shit

I read that corona viruses are stable and not prone to mutate, unlike the flu.
I don't believe "the second will kill you" rumors, haven't read that in any reputable paper.

let's hope

I don't know shit, just a monkey with a keyboard here

i thought mutations usually were in the less lethal direction as the virus wants the host to survive after all.. but same here, just another monkey shitposting.

was weird grilling meat out on the deck in perfect comfort the other day while knowing there is a war coming. human vs the virii. who will win..

In the last two weeks, I had gone to the store on a couple of occasions, and I could not resist the nice cuts of steak that were on sale.. fuck..   Each time, I bought enough for four days... I am not sure of the reason for the sale, but usually I miss those kinds of meat sales because they only tend to last a day or two. 

Anyhow, seems like an ongoing sale, and I felt so bad eating those for several days in a row (or should I say a couple weeks, now).. they were so damned yummy.

[Cryptotourist]

Guys, I'm not at all religious, but I certainly don't appreciate where this is going.
Like, for real? You have to be shitting me.

I prefer to drop dead right now - than to physically mark me in any way, against my will - like sheep.
Do wake the fuck up. It is matter of freedom. This what is really tested.

Peeps like you deserve an implanted chip, so TPTB can unambiguously track your surly lil ass.  


 

Jay Juan Gee joking,
humor value set to full,
error and reboot.

#haiku

No reboot necessary.   

You can't be. It's against the algorithm.
Besides, I said I'd rather be dead. Make it so.