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March 22, 2020, 02:57:23 PM

Is your book a childrens book? Military intervention is a Bad Thing, it means things are so bad the military has become necessary.

Have you ever read a book?
Or is it only youtube and blogs all the way?

Medical military tents, and/or medical military gear, is far from military intervention the way you mean it.
Can actually use the resources for a good cause for a change.

Obviously Sweden, edit: Switzerland, Croatia, can tell the difference.
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March 22, 2020, 03:07:23 PM
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I've been compiling a Corona Hits folder for the car, and was astonished to find Marcus used to be an officer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvC_0foemLY
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March 22, 2020, 03:16:31 PM
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Here's an article about one of the military units. (In Swedish).

https://www.friatider.se/forsvarsmakten-upprattar-faltsjukhus-coronasmittade

Emm... these guys are not wearing any masks?  Shocked

And the text under the photo tells you that it's a stock photo from the exercise Aurora 17.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_17

Aurora 17 was a military exercise that took place in Sweden during a three-week period, from 11 through 29 September 2017.[1] Its main focus was the defence of Gotland.[2] It was Sweden’s biggest military exercise in 23 years and involved troops from the United States and some other NATO countries.[2]
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Good morn Bitcoinland
Sixty seventy dollars
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Fuck Covid-19.
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No live sport, so now this UK rugby commentator has resorted to commentary tweets on everyday life and its brilliant.

(scroll down for tweet compilation..might be messy on mobile devices... IDK)
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Shit's gettin real:

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1241423796453638145
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Nice feel good article...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-was-designed-for-a-financial-crisis-so-far-its-working-well
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There are many who argue that Bitcoin cannot be a store-of-value based on its whipsaw volatility but valuable insight can be drawn from gold’s price action during the 2008 financial crisis.

Agree.

Gold certainly doesn’t look like a safe haven after a 24% plunge in less than 2 months, even more worrisome is the fact that the S&P 500 remained flat during that period. Therefore, is it really fair to analyze any correlation over such a short period? Does that sharp movement in price invalidate gold’s resilience during market uncertainties?

Was the public not paying attention that both Gold and Bitcoin have been running up the last few years since they both bottomed? Gold especially never starts a new bull run unless the "insiders" know what is coming down the pipe. They are always ahead of the public by a few years. By the time a market crash comes, Gold has already moved up from it's bottom by at least 25-30%.

Then after a crash is fully over, deflationary assets will take off to try and outrun inflation (or perhaps, because of it). Every. Single. Fkn. Time. Fueled by the Fed's trillions in free money, of course.

Remind me in 10 years, here are my conservative predictions:

By 2030 -
Stock market at another ATH
Gold above $2800/ounce
Bitcoin above $80K
Average new car $30K+
Average 1500 sq.ft. new house $350K+
Oil price? Who the fk knows, the world is swimming in it.
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March 22, 2020, 03:50:45 PM
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Nice feel good article...

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-was-designed-for-a-financial-crisis-so-far-its-working-well
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There are many who argue that Bitcoin cannot be a store-of-value based on its whipsaw volatility but valuable insight can be drawn from gold’s price action during the 2008 financial crisis.

Gold certainly doesn’t look like a safe haven after a 24% plunge in less than 2 months, even more worrisome is the fact that the S&P 500 remained flat during that period. Therefore, is it really fair to analyze any correlation over such a short period? Does that sharp movement in price invalidate gold’s resilience during market uncertainties?

The fact is that Bitcoin has zero correlation with other asset classes.
Said in laymen terms: Honey Badger doesn't give a fuck.
I won't comment again my own theory about "mining capitulation" induced dump in bitcoin, only to be reinforced by general asset classes crash. So Bitcoin capitulation started for reasons all inside the bitcoin "ecosystem" only to be later reinforced by general market crash.

Bitcoin going down because other asset classes crash (Equity, Debt and Gold) going down could lead you to think that bitcoin is still used as a gambling tools by many.
Trading bitcoin has low correlation to other asset classes and high volatility, this is a wonderful instrument for scalping (beware: this doesn't mean in any way it is a profitable strategy to scalp on bitcoin).
So, despite the digital gold is the best narrative I can think of while dealing with bitcoin, this proved to still be a narrative, not supported by data and market evidences.

Actually, if you want to have a ray of light, you can think that bitcoin is not the one you observe on the exchanges.
As beautifully pointed out by @Plutosky on the Italian board, bitcoins used for trading are only a minuscule part of the whole bitcoin used out there.

If bitcoin would have been a pure gambling tool, given the enormous swings during the last days we would have seen a great surge in  bitcoin transactions and a subsequent rise in transaction fees. Ok, we observed a rise in both metrics, but nothing comparable to what would have happened if we had observed a "rush" to the exchanges to trade bitcoins. We observed a few weak hands running to convert into Fiat, a few buying) but the vast majority of hodlers kept on...hodling.

If we look at LN statistics we see that the allocated bitcoins in LN are almost unchanged. Sign that no one thought their precious coins were at risk committed to a LN channel.



Number of allocated BTC coins actually slightly increased over the market dump: sign that the LN user didn't think their coins were at risk being committed to a channel instead of rushing to a fiat exchange.

So, don't infer anything about bitcoin only looking at the price: the price is one of the many aspects of bitcoin, but there is much more to deal with than price.




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Neighbors giving out donuts, just awesome, bless you America. Grin
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March 22, 2020, 04:03:21 PM

Bitcoin above $80K

But... but... you're trying to say I'll be too old for the $100k party? Damn...  Grin Grin Grin
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Nice one, fillippone.
Out of sMerit. Will get back to this one after I scooped up one again.
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US CDC admitted some #COVID19 patients were misdiagnosed as flu during 2019 flu season. 34 million infected & 20000 died. If #COVID19 began last September, & US has been lack of testing ability, how many would have been infected? US should find out when patient zero appeared.
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The fact is that Bitcoin has zero correlation with other asset classes.

Not a fact. Even @aantop recognizes the correlation:



There's other more mathematically sound ways of identifying increasing correlation but they are too cumbersome and boring to reproduce at the moment.

Trading bitcoin has low correlation to other asset classes and high volatility

Low, yes. None, no.

If bitcoin would have been a pure gambling tool, given the enormous swings during the last days we would have seen a great surge in  bitcoin transactions and a subsequent rise in transaction fees. Ok, we observed a rise in both metrics, but nothing comparable to what would have happened if we had observed a "rush" to the exchanges to trade bitcoins.

Today's swings are due to more investors using different high leverage options that weren't available in 2017, thus there is no need to move huge amounts of coins around on-chain. BitMEX was around back then but not nearly as many people were using it as today. And now it has several competitors that weren't around back then, as well.

So, don't infer anything about bitcoin only looking at the price: the price is one of the many aspects of bitcoin, but there is much more to deal with than price.

Yes, I do agree with this. And its these fundamental aspects that give bitcoin its value, which I believe ultimately will hold, so long as we still have internet and electricity.
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March 22, 2020, 04:14:17 PM

Bitcoin above $80K

But... but... you're trying to say I'll be too old for the $100k party? Damn...  Grin Grin Grin

Not at all. Before 2030 comes I'm almost positive we'll see a spike above that.

What I'm talking about is the low, or sideways, price of BTC will float around ~$80K  in ten years. Or higher.

And by that time asset inflation will have been really really bad.
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So it begins, Venezuela closing banks down. Bitcoin buying boosted. Link below.
https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-buying-boosted-in-venezuela-as-bank-branches-close-down/
You think Trump's printing money and such is silly, wait to you see the fly by night money printing and dubious actions by mostly
third world authoritarian regimes. This is gonna be bad for lots of folks. Sad

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Don't know if its true, but it sounds so british that I am confident it is.

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The fact is that Bitcoin has zero correlation with other asset classes.

Not a fact. Even @aantop recognizes the correlation:



There's other more mathematically sound ways of identifying increasing correlation but they are too cumbersome and boring to reproduce at the moment.

Correlation cannot be observed over a brief crash. If bitcoin and stocks market crash at the same time, this has no (levy little) impact on correlation, that must be observed on long period to be meant significative.


Today's swings are due to more investors using different high leverage options that weren't available in 2017, thus there is no need to move huge amounts of coins around on-chain. BitMEX was around back then but not nearly as many people were using it as today. And now it has several competitors that weren't around back then, as well.

Correct, good point, maybe you are right, but I think volumes of this kind of leveraged trading is not so prominent in total trading amounts.



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We come from here:

JJG https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg54071466#msg54071466

Added the links to each page, I have also added some more.

Bitcoin Podcast

- The Bad crypto podcast https://badcryptopodcast.com/

- Bitcoin & Markets https://bitcoinandmarkets.com/

- Bitcoin echo chamber https://bitcoinechochamber.com/

- The bitcoin knowledge podcast https://www.bitcoin.kn/

- The bitcoin network podcast https://thebitcoinpodcast.com/

- Bitcoinmeister https://player.fm/series/2540016

- Bottomshelf bitcoin https://anchor.fm/bottomshelfbtc

- Citizen Bitcoin https://citizenbitcoin.world/

- Crypto & Grill https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/crypto-grill-cryptoandgrill-szVfuj_FecH/

- Crypto Cousins https://cryptocousins.com/crypto-cousins-podcast/

- Crypto Voices https://soundcloud.com/cryptovoices

- The Cryptoconomy https://anchor.fm/thecryptoconomy

- Fun With Bitcoin https://anchor.fm/funwithbitcoin

- Noded Bitcoin https://noded.org/

- The pomp https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pomp-podcast/id1434060078

- Pov Crypto https://povcryptopod.libsyn.com/

- Rekt podcast https://www.rektpodcast.com/listen-1

- Stephan Livera https://stephanlivera.com/

- Tales From the Crypt https://talesfromthecrypt.libsyn.com/

- Unchained https://unchainedpodcast.com/

- Unconfirmed https://unconfirmed.libsyn.com/

- World Crypto Network https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-world-crypto-network-podcast/id825708806

- Bitcoin Podcast https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information/podcasts.html

- Blockdigest https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb53lXz2IzEFT5JNHSbdvPg/videos

- Cryptoconomy https://twitter.com/TheCryptoconomy

- Messari Crypto Podcasts  https://messari.io/resource/crypto-podcasts

- aantonop  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJWCJCWOxBYSi5DhCieLOLQ

- CoinDesk Podcast Network https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/late-confirmation-by-coindesk/id1414384043

You can summarize every podacst you hear in a post, we will read it carefully. Cool
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Don't know if its true, but it sounds so british that I am confident it is.

*thumbs-up*

It's probably true. We do also have many examples of police doing things like that to entertain the people.

Here's an example:

https://twitter.com/Andrea_DLFA/status/1240037300073115648

Edit, a few more:

https://twitter.com/joancollet1/status/1241672866308984832

https://twitter.com/pereceron/status/1241414109238886400
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So it begins, Venezuela closing banks down. Bitcoin buying boosted. Link below.
https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-buying-boosted-in-venezuela-as-bank-branches-close-down/
You think Trump's printing money and such is silly, wait to you see the fly by night money printing and dubious actions by mostly
third world authoritarian regimes. This is gonna be bad for lots of folks. Sad



In fact, it's not just Venezuela... in many countries banks are literally running out of money (cash). Here's when BTC is coming to help...  Cool
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