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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (1.1%)
7/28 - 11 (11.6%)
8/4 - 16 (16.8%)
8/11 - 7 (7.4%)
8/18 - 5 (5.3%)
8/25 - 7 (7.4%)
After August - 48 (50.5%)
Total Voters: 95

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February 16, 2021, 07:16:00 PM

Ya, nervous about moving money to my bank account.

Risk an exchange going down or risk the bank freezing my account for sending money from a bitcoin exchange...and then telling me to come to the closest branch to sort it out.

Does the exchange have "stablecoins" ? USDC, USDT, DAI ? You could convert the money into those, and effectively withdraw from the exchange to your own wallet. Most will run on top of ETH so you'd need a little bit of that too.

Your bank account does not give you any interest. Those stablecoins, either you keep it in your own wallet, or experiment with the new defi banks (Nexo, Celsius, BlockFi, Gemini Earn) so you get 4% to 8% or something.
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February 16, 2021, 07:22:12 PM

What a disgusting poll !! And the results almost made me puke...

So do you really think 2.5x from last cycle is current top??  with all the money printing frenzy ?? c'mon!!

The poll is worded carefully. It asks "When do you plan to START...?"

The keyword is START. Even if someone has a higher target in mind, locating the top is not easy - actually nearly impossible, it could be argued.

Whoops!!  For some reason, I misread the poll too, so I ended up answering "never" rather than "I already have." 

So a careful BCA* strategy could be an effective way to extract a preset amount of fiat, hedging against a premature end of the bull cycle. Not that I deem it likely as it is now, or that I need that much fiat in this predicament. Personally, I'm not starting anytime soon, but we all have different circumstances, so it will be interesting to see the poll's results.

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Even if BTC prices go shooting up 5x in less than 6 months, which they did, if you are still in a BTC accumulation phase, then I don't see how you quickly transition over to a BTC cashing out stage... that just seems like gambling, unless you are just cashing out in fairly small and incremental ways, which would signify that you may have moved from a more BTC accumulation emphasizing phase to a more BTC maintenance emphasizing phase.

Surely, liquidation is the phase that comes after maintenance, so I am not sure if the poll is really getting at whether we might be entering into a BTC liquidation phase, because these days, in my thinking, a BTC liquidation is more of a timeline thing rather than a BTC price movement thing, but I could see how very great BTC price movements might inspire some movement into a BTC liquidation stage rather than just a more aggressive maintenance stage that allows for selling more BTC base on price movements. 

The more I type, the more I begin to feel that I might not be making much sense, so yeah, maybe a punchline continues to be that each of us are going to have differing ways of thinking about the matter of how much fiat to cash out and what would be the purposes and maybe even the framework for such cashenings out.  Sure some folks have the purposes of buying back BTC cheaper, and for me the buying back cheaper was an incidental outcome of my practices and not a primary aim of mine.. so I never really considered myself to be cash out for that purpose, specifically and purposefully.

Note, I have considered myself to be in a kind of maintenance emphasizing phase of my bitcoin journey since about early 2015 (which would mean that I was in a bitcoin accumulation emphasizing phase through most of 2014), but there was still quite a bit of efforts of BTC accumulation in my practices between early 2015 and early 2017 and largely using DCA techniques, which thereafter I would categorize myself as having had transitioned into a more BTC maintenance stage and emphasizing the accumulation apart from incidental BTC accumulation that came from a kind of maintenance effort. 

Don't get me wrong because I am reframing and reemphasizing some of these points now, so it seems to me that I had not realized exactly which stages I had been in while I was in them - especially in 2014 and 2015, even though I did realize the purpose of what I was trying to do.    So anyhow, I began to employ selling of BTC starting at about $250 from about October 2015, and so that ongoing BTC selling has persisted until today.. which seems to be the answer to the question of when did you start to take profits - no regrets, and a way to attempt to balance matters somewhat based on my having had considered myself to have had over-accumulated BTC especially in the period from late 2014 to September 2015.

This whole rendition of my BTC selling strategy since 2015 seems to be answering my own question in regards to why I have never felt any need to prepare for BTC going to zero beyond my then preparations - because I had never considered myself to be investing more than I was willing to lose - even though with the ongoing BTC price rises, there seems like there could be some justification to taking even more BTC off the table (referring to completely removing the amount of the initial investment capital with no intention to use it to buy back BTC or to keep it in reserves in any kind of way in terms of considering it for the buying back of BTC) because there would hardly be any significant or meaningful impact to the overall value of the BTC to pull that initial investment capital out of BTC, especially at today's prices.. but then another question would be "where to put it?" which I personally need to consider if I can think of something.  Could create a trust... just a random thought.
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February 16, 2021, 07:24:07 PM

I never thought in my life that ever I will be rich but today now I am sure I will because this bitcoin is doing amazing for me. I bought small amount few months back today its showing very good profit so now feeling my target $200K is good so just because of this now I lock my wallet for this figure when it's going to touch than I am going to sell this otherwise I have to wait.
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February 16, 2021, 07:27:06 PM


No matter what level I'd be in, that citadel looks like my worst nightmare.

Avoiding to end up in such horrendous monstrosity is the exact reason why I'm in crypto in the first place.



I think anyone who invests even 1000 USD is going to have a nice time. Remember, this is real money. And will be seen that way sooner or later by the world.

It completely depends on your expectations. Mine are freedom and peace of mind. Not sure how much USD or BTC those two things cost. Cool
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February 16, 2021, 07:28:50 PM
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The keyword is START. Even if someone has a higher target in mind, locating the top is not easy - actually nearly impossible, it could be argued.


Yup, most of us here did that pre 2017 at the least so that should win by a large margin.
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February 16, 2021, 07:47:58 PM


I'm not motivating or pushing anyone to gamble with his money, but if you don't really need the money, wouldn't you want to know where this is leading to?

(of course, hoping it leads up)
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February 16, 2021, 07:54:42 PM


This kinda made my day. Cheesy Cheesy
I think he feels like he is loosing some of his clients or some sh!t like that. Smiley  Roll Eyes





Owh Gawd.... 12 years?Huh?? WTF??? ... We are getting old,.... ?? .. WTF?? It can't be 12 years??.. WTF?? Cheesy Cheesy  Shocked
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February 16, 2021, 07:57:34 PM

^ Just WTF have we been doing for the last 12 years?? Watching the price rise?? Cheesy Cheesy  Cry
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February 16, 2021, 07:58:16 PM


I'm not motivating or pushing anyone to gamble with his money, but if you don't really need the money, wouldn't you want to know where this is leading to?

(of course, hoping it leads up)

We can rule out a move down to zero in the next 30 years. Maybe, we can even rule out a move down to $30k in the next year or two. We can probably rule out a move down to $25k for the foreseeable future (5 to 10 years) as some of the institutions have bought in around that price, some even higher, so there will be some buy walls or resistance or whatever you want to call it below those levels.

I'm even going to go out and say, we aren't seeing $35k anymore.
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HA !!! I STOLE ALL THEIR SH!TCOINS !!! Tongue  Roll Eyes  Huh  Cool  Cheesy  Cry
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February 16, 2021, 08:20:12 PM

I bought myself a model rocket from the UK today, decided to start launching rockets again, something I did when I was younger.
It's gonna be interesting to see what the customs fee is, if any, now that brexit is done.
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Interesting read now that we are all getting rich, the rich do really get richer
https://www.zmescience.com/other/economics/rich-get-richer-16022021/?goal=0_3b5aad2288-76eec24fdc-242794649
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February 16, 2021, 08:35:18 PM
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next move up is setting up to be quite explosive again.

the bull flag upward pennant beneath 50k looks strong and if it's right about the exchanges getting cleaned out of corn .... well the only resolution to lack of corn is higher prices
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February 16, 2021, 08:37:15 PM

I bought myself a model rocket from the UK today, decided to start launching rockets again, something I did when I was younger.
It's gonna be interesting to see what the customs fee is, if any, now that brexit is done.

When I was a kid I used to make rockets out of paper towel tubes and one time I ran out of wadding so I substituted tissue paper (woops i was a dumb kid) So when the cone shot off the rubber band melted and the rocket fell to the ground while the parachute with the cone floated in the sky till I couldn't see it and was gone.

Now here is the fucking sick part!

I got home and the cone was sitting on the front walk to my front stairs!!!

you just can't make this shit up!

Reality is a really weird place to live. Smiley
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February 16, 2021, 08:46:55 PM

next move up is setting up to be quite explosive again.

the bull flag upward pennant beneath 50k looks strong and if it's right about the exchanges getting cleaned out of corn .... well the only resolution to lack of corn is higher prices

Some interpret this as rising wedge (bearish).
I don't agree, however. It also doesn't fit the sentiment at all.
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February 16, 2021, 08:59:55 PM
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I bought myself a model rocket from the UK today, decided to start launching rockets again, something I did when I was younger.
It's gonna be interesting to see what the customs fee is, if any, now that brexit is done.

When I was a kid I used to make rockets out of paper towel tubes and one time I ran out of wadding so I substituted tissue paper (woops i was a dumb kid) So when the cone shot off the rubber band melted and the rocket fell to the ground while the parachute with the cone floated in the sky till I couldn't see it and was gone.

Now here is the fucking sick part!

I got home and the cone was sitting on the front walk to my front stairs!!!

you just can't make this shit up!

Reality is a really weird place to live. Smiley

Thats a really cool story.

Have you seen this guy and his really cool rockets?
Falcon heavy with real nozzle control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQt-9SSJ51c
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February 16, 2021, 09:04:15 PM

OT: Hory sheet, the Nikkei crossed 30,000 yen for the first time since 1990.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-15/japan-s-nikkei-225-touches-30-000-yen-for-first-time-since-1990
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