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April 20, 2014, 02:02:56 AM

My in depth technical analysis says: The market really likes the 500 point. There I gave away all my secrets.

I would love us to crawl back and sustain at $550 levels
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April 20, 2014, 02:15:23 AM

huobi trying to break 3200 again
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April 20, 2014, 02:15:33 AM

I'm sensing a pump and dump.
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April 20, 2014, 02:24:19 AM

I have proof you are 100% wrong.
I make new odds for you..... 580 before 480. my analysis at stake.
I heard you lost some coins yesterday, what was your analysis? (I didnt lose any -made lots)

I don't have any analysis because it is superstition and as likely to be correct as guessing. I don't expect you to see beyond your religion.

When I said I lost some coins it was hyperbole as I watched the train leaving. I sold 3 at 475, so it's not yet as dire as I posted. Overall I am about 90% in BTC so I sold a few thinking we might see 300. As I said I hope your guess is correct, although it will cause me to lose more of those 3 coins, because my remaining coins will be worth more.

As for whether you have many or few coins, made many or lost many, it means nothing to me as I don't believe a word you say. You seem on the verge of pathology.

 While some folks admittedly have a single-minded assurance in TA/waves/line indicators & patterns that indeed verges on the superstitious, that doesn't mean all TA is useless & baseless. There has got to be some evidence from forex & bitcoin forums that at least a few skilled traders have seen TA give them some successful entries & exits on a mostly consistent basis, I guarantee it.

 But more to the point though, why after countless hundreds of posts debating this & that person's predictions accuracy or lack thereof, it hasn't occured to nobody yet to simply bring about the weapon that ends all doubts - SCREENSHOTS or it didn't happen..??

 If I ever got the slightest curious inquiry about one of my bets/calls I immediately, gladly produce some screenshots of exchange accts' trade history logs while MS-Paint-blanking away the sensitive/private details.. o.O?

Takes 10 yrs screen time to see price. Once u do that u may win 51 lose 49 times but dont ask for more.. usually your edge isnt much bigger in markets.. any forex guru claiming 75%+ win rate is a scammer one way or another gauranteed. In the end its not about the fact that your system gives an edge
but how u control you emotions to execute. Thats all you need to know to make money. Easier said than done.
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April 20, 2014, 02:30:52 AM

Takes 10 yrs screen time to see price. Once u do that u may win 51 lose 49 times but dont ask for more.. usually your edge isnt much bigger in markets.. any forex guru claiming 75%+ win rate is a scammer one way or another gauranteed. In the end its not about the fact that your system gives an edge
but how u control you emotions to execute. Thats all you need to know to make money. Easier said than done.

thats true for ignorant traders. we have unfolding fundamental themes here. the more knowledge one has, the more accurately one can read the charts. Stock traders are usually professionals in their fields, such as mining, commodities etc... they have a stronger edge.

I am not the only one here who has made more than 10x my money here. Bitcoin is a phenomena.

The forex markets are much larger and robust, randomised, and manipulated. I would agree that nobody can sytematically make 75% from that.

I also agree about the emotions, not only your emotions/logic but others aswell.
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April 20, 2014, 02:46:11 AM

I'm sensing a pump and dump.


That's what I am thinking too...
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April 20, 2014, 02:50:31 AM

huobi trying to break 3200 again

Just saw it hit 3200 for a few seconds!
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April 20, 2014, 02:51:32 AM

If we can sustain at around $515, i would be happy with our progress. I would like to see $525 by end of next week (sustainably as well)
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April 20, 2014, 02:52:55 AM

We're past the 3200 mark on Huobi.
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April 20, 2014, 02:53:04 AM

1m, 3m, 15m, 30m, 1h, 2h, 4h, 6h and 12h charts all pointing north. The stars are aligned.
1d chart going to break out within the next hr.

My advice: Get in now!
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April 20, 2014, 02:56:41 AM

Holy shit  Shocked
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April 20, 2014, 03:00:00 AM

Pretty sure I have the magical power of causing a big pump. Every time I get bored and sell a handful of LTC, it jumps within 5 minutes.
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April 20, 2014, 03:00:18 AM


Explanation
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April 20, 2014, 03:00:51 AM

lol, I am starting to side with the bears, on the need to chillout.. most likley the spike on the 4hr macd bots.. let it play out before we start to see a upward play...however I think that is Monday.
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April 20, 2014, 03:01:03 AM

Holy crap ! buying back at a loss now
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April 20, 2014, 03:06:54 AM

1m, 3m, 15m, 30m, 1h, 2h, 4h, 6h and 12h charts all pointing north. The stars are aligned.
1d chart going to break out within the next hr.

My advice: Get in now!

One of these days, Alice... to the moon!

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April 20, 2014, 03:16:41 AM

Holy crap ! buying back at a loss now


Premature?
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April 20, 2014, 03:36:06 AM

nano did fuck all.....

her husband must be furious!


I bought at 355, I sold at 420. I bought at 405, I sold at 520. I bought at 488, shorted at 490. now I have bought at 484. You will find evidence for all these if you care to look.

Nano took a lot of time to carefully go through and unmask your delusion multiple times in a dandy little timeline. It was gift from her to us. She practically put a li'l red bow on it. I'm not going to bother with it again when the truth is clear. All we need is for you begin deliriously shouting at us that you've "called the bottom" when you have done no such thing and we'll rename you BJAllen. You two can Indian Leg Wrestle over who needs the most attention.

That seems rather uncharitable, but with the way you've been using your keyboard like a truncheon, I suppose I should have expected to take my turn on the receiving end.
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April 20, 2014, 03:42:16 AM


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The forex markets are much larger and robust, randomised, and manipulated. I would agree that nobody can sytematically make 75% from that.

I also agree about the emotions, not only your emotions/logic but others aswell.

 Yeah, more liquid, a bit more randomized, arguably just as manipulated as cryptomarkets, and, you get up to 1:1000 leverage for it, versus .sx's 1:10 & 'Finex's 1:2.5.. that can be incredulous free-&-clear profit should one find the discipline to only trade during the release of events like the FOMC Statement & NFP Economic Report ; Not to mention ..increased funds security from all that cavorting w/ Big Brother ;p..

 Emotions are a trade killer. Our worst enemy.

My in depth technical analysis says: The market really likes the 500 point. There I gave away all my secrets.

And the 1000 point, once 510 or even 600 becomes the new "340".


If I ever got the slightest curious inquiry about one of my bets/calls I immediately, gladly produce some screenshots of exchange accts' trade history logs while MS-Paint-blanking away the sensitive/private details.. o.O?

You declare "screenshots or it didn't happen" then go on to talk about Photoshopping screenshots. Did you think that through before typing it?
Did you? Blanking sensitive data is hardly photo editing. And it's not Photoshop. Couldn't you read? Mspaint.

LOL, I've obviously touched a nerve with derpinheimer. Lemme guess - you practice the religion of TA as well?

"Photoshopping" is like calling all tissues "Kleenex," or perhaps calling a photocopy a "Xerox" when it may not be that brand. This is common in the U.S.

I don't care what program Cosmic used. The fact one can digitally alter a screenshot immediately renders it anything but proof. The shot may be helpful, but it shouldn't be mistaken as proof of anything. I swear I have no idea how kids clamped onto that idea. You can change ANYTHING on a screenshot.

Goodness, people are beginning to wonder if even video can be proof now because many people have the ability to edit it. Did you know the FSM actually exists and was spotted in Germany, proving our Universe was created by His Noodly Appendage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqg

You don't have to be happy that I call TA superstition but get some perspective and be reasonable. And if you're going to jump me you'd better use your fucking brain first because otherwise I will tear you into more tatters than the Walking Dead wardrobe department.

 It's funny, I hadn't thought it through, actually. Mostly b/c of being so used to the common idea that screenshots are oft asked for in forums, games & even by admins/gamemasters to resolve disputes or proove/disprove hacks, misconduct, etc.

 Makes one wonder.. why is it that there has been such a culture of taking camera or computer screenshots as evidence of anything in the era of ubiquitous digital editing..? Or even video footage, which can also be tampered with a minimum of know-how..? Goes pretty deep when you think about it. All those accepted practices & protocols about using video cameras for criminal investigation =/  Guess they're fine with it because at that level, they have well-trained experts who will spot nearly all the little signs showing modification.

 But, on forums, as informal proof shared between peers, we obviously can't rely on such experts to lend a hand on the spot. Thus, I must rephrase my statement  Cool :

 If I ever got the slightest curious inquiry about one of my bets/calls I immediately, gladly produce some screenshots/imgur links of my exchange accts' trade history logs (while of course edit-blanking away the sensitive / private details) ; As well as screens/links of the TrxID's & locations of the relevant transactions as visible in the blockchain ; Along with any other reasonably acquired proof (my technical knowledge of cryptocurrencies' inner workings is lacking ;p) that would strengthen my claim not because one must proove anything to anyone but rather because it is beneficial to all users of a forum when truth, ugly or pretty, is sought-after & bullsht is eradicated to halt the diseased spread of delusions.

 As for TA, the strongest inalienable rationale for its legitimacy comes from an uncanny effect : Traders desperately want an edge. The tantalizing mirage of somehow being able to robotically follow a price-based, mathematical prediction system and making bank on almost every candlestick has obvious low-hanging fruit appeal that explains its huge popularity next to fundamental analysis. This widespread use, is precisely why it works. The greater the number of TA speculators expect the price to do X at Y point based on converging technical price indicators, the greater the probability that they collectively make such price action happen, in an impromptu consensus with each other.

 That being said, there's a difference between buying|selling at low|high technical points because it's less risky, more patient & smarter ; And placing trust in Fibonacci Lines, Elliott Waves & Ichimoku Clouds. I trade charts 'naked' and have always disliked the latter more advanced indicators, because at the end of the day, you want to manage risk until your trade entry ends up being profitable or until you can cut loss at a better exit to make more money another time. That comforting feeling one gets playing Nostradamus & seeing your EW/Fibo/etc predictions being 'proven' correct by the markets, is in reality awkwardly close to the relief a priest gets when events unfold as to 'prove' his faith right..

 Daim, now I'm hungry for some pasta & french bread.. Huh
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April 20, 2014, 03:43:11 AM

That seems rather uncharitable, but with the way you've been using your keyboard like a truncheon, I suppose I should have expected to take my turn on the receiving end.

It's tax season. I'm irritable. In addition, although I am male I suspect I may be PMSing.
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