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May 09, 2014, 08:08:09 AM

I'm curious. What actually happened? (about the lost coins / laptop / sauna / beach / moon)

That shit was hilarious. Comedy gold!
Back then his trolling was funny. Now it's just sad.
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May 09, 2014, 08:15:05 AM

The sauna was chosen as the security room because of its location (in this satellite photo, it is the building in the tip of "Ennäsudden", with only 60° sector towards the land, and 300° to the sea with big windows all around. One man could spot any intruders from 100 meters away and we planned on having a guard there for the time when we it would otherwise been empty. The management of the hotel was informed of the special needs, they rented this out for the entire duration of the conference....

....and something went horribly wrong the very first night, when the hotel staff not only forced us to move to other rooms in violation to the previous understanding, but also visited the sauna multiple times, and also stole our stuff there.

It was greatly stressful to be unsure whether the laptop was copied or not (and I still don't know), but the bitcoins were later counted and I cannot say conclusively whether any were stolen. I am leaning towards the scenario that the management made a big blunder, and failed in the aftermath. The thief was a hotel cleaning lady, and that the laptop was probably not touched.

Bottom line: I don't know. In my hotel there will be a security manager, and if we agree on security with a customer, it will be delivered. Simple. (Should be)
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May 09, 2014, 08:35:13 AM

The sauna was chosen as the security room because of its location (in this satellite photo, it is the building in the tip of "Ennäsudden", with only 60° sector towards the land, and 300° to the sea with big windows all around. One man could spot any intruders from 100 meters away and we planned on having a guard there for the time when we it would otherwise been empty. The management of the hotel was informed of the special needs, they rented this out for the entire duration of the conference....

....and something went horribly wrong the very first night, when the hotel staff not only forced us to move to other rooms in violation to the previous understanding, but also visited the sauna multiple times, and also stole our stuff there.

It was greatly stressful to be unsure whether the laptop was copied or not (and I still don't know), but the bitcoins were later counted and I cannot say conclusively whether any were stolen. I am leaning towards the scenario that the management made a big blunder, and failed in the aftermath. The thief was a hotel cleaning lady, and that the laptop was probably not touched.

Bottom line: I don't know. In my hotel there will be a security manager, and if we agree on security with a customer, it will be delivered. Simple. (Should be)

What the F*** does that mean?
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May 09, 2014, 08:35:35 AM



What the F*** does that mean?

Are you suggesting things are looking more bullish?
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May 09, 2014, 08:40:36 AM

but the bitcoins were later counted and I cannot say conclusively whether any were stolen. I am leaning towards the scenario that the management made a big blunder, and failed in the aftermath. The thief was a hotel cleaning lady, and that the laptop was probably not touched.

What the F*** does that mean?

That I cannot say for sure, that any of the bitcoins were stolen, which means that in high probability none of them were.
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May 09, 2014, 08:40:59 AM

It means he counted them but had no idea how many there were supposed to be  Grin
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May 09, 2014, 08:43:05 AM

but the bitcoins were later counted and I cannot say conclusively whether any were stolen. I am leaning towards the scenario that the management made a big blunder, and failed in the aftermath. The thief was a hotel cleaning lady, and that the laptop was probably not touched.

What the F*** does that mean?

That I cannot say for sure, that any of the bitcoins were stolen, which means that in high probability none of them were.

Did you keep all your keys and passcodes on the computer? Did you not have it written down on a paper wallet? Did you not know your address for these coins?  How the hell could you not retrieve them or AT LEAST know whether they were stolen?

And what do you mean by "counted?" You got them back? If you got them back, how were they stolen? Your computer could have been stolen, but if they had no access to the coins or didn't know how to access them, then that doesn't count as stolen coins.

Why is it that your sentences are so hard to understand?
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May 09, 2014, 08:44:28 AM



What the F*** does that mean?

Are you suggesting things are looking more bullish?

Or that TERA's bears are as good as gentlemand's spiders.  Wink

(gentlemand, I think your spider was wonderful and I'd definitely buy one for the asking price)
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May 09, 2014, 08:49:46 AM



What the F*** does that mean?

Are you suggesting things are looking more bullish?

Or that TERA's bears are as good as gentlemand's spiders.  Wink

(gentlemand, I think your spider was wonderful and I'd definitely buy one for the asking price)

no , it´s a TA figure ( horny market formation)

1st down , then back up, no net change
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May 09, 2014, 08:51:56 AM

The whole thing is still within the bounds of "extreme incompetence is indistinguishable from malice" so that if the cleaning lady was pilfering on her own account, there needs to be no other malignant actor in the game. It sure felt paranoid at that time, because I had no reason to expect extreme incompetence (nor malice, of course) from a hotel that I had patroned for over 10 years.

As a comparison, Hotel Kämp, which is the only $2,000+ hotel in Finland, also failed in many counts, but I had no reason to expect better, so it was not suspicious, just sad. (And yes, Justin Bieber occupied the small room just next to us.)
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May 09, 2014, 08:58:57 AM

(And yes, Justin Bieber occupied the small room just next to us.)

The plot thickens.. My money is on Bieber and his entourage stealing the laptop!
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May 09, 2014, 08:59:57 AM

The whole thing is still within the bounds of "extreme incompetence is indistinguishable from malice" so that if the cleaning lady was pilfering on her own account, there needs to be no other malignant actor in the game. It sure felt paranoid at that time, because I had no reason to expect extreme incompetence (nor malice, of course) from a hotel that I had patroned for over 10 years.

As a comparison, Hotel Kämp, which is the only $2,000+ hotel in Finland, also failed in many counts, but I had no reason to expect better, so it was not suspicious, just sad. (And yes, Justin Bieber occupied the small room just next to us.)

You didn't answer any of my questions. If you still have your coins they were never "stolen." Only you computer was stolen.

Why are you not making this distinction?
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May 09, 2014, 09:00:54 AM


Explanation
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May 09, 2014, 09:01:22 AM

Looks like Houbi is going to do another pump now that it is 5pm on Friday and no "news" has come out.

I am starting to hate China.  Smiley
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May 09, 2014, 09:01:25 AM

(And yes, Justin Bieber occupied the small room just next to us.)

The plot thickens.. My money is on Bieber and his entourage stealing the laptop!

Have you seen some of the people he has in his entourage? Probably couldnt even turn one on!
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May 09, 2014, 09:17:33 AM

Looks like Houbi is going to do another pump now that it is 5pm on Friday and no "news" has come out.

I am starting to hate China.  Smiley

China needs to cash out and go to bed. When they wake up they can only buy I guess?
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May 09, 2014, 09:18:31 AM

Huge pumps starting.. prepare your fiat!
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May 09, 2014, 09:20:29 AM

off a pretty good base too. exciting stuff.
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May 09, 2014, 09:34:53 AM



What the F*** does that mean?

Are you suggesting things are looking more bullish?
It means the bulls are being trolls.
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May 09, 2014, 09:35:37 AM

Are we still waiting for some kind of Chinese countdown to end at the 10th? Is there some explanation of the situation somewhere?
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