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July 08, 2014, 05:50:30 AM

No.  That's crony capitalism.  Laissez-faire economists oppose crony capitalism.  Please educate yourself here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism
Thank you, but I lived in the US 13 years starting with Reagan's election.  I have seen it happen in real time. And I have seen that here in Brazil too, before and after that. It was deregulation, not government intervention, that created the monster banks and all economic crises since then. 
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July 08, 2014, 05:54:00 AM

No.  That's crony capitalism.  Laissez-faire economists oppose crony capitalism.  Please educate yourself here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism
Thank you, but I lived in the US 13 years starting with Reagan's election.  I have seen it happen in real time. And I have seen that here in Brazil too, before and after that. It was deregulation, not government intervention, that created the monster banks and all economic crises since then. 

[...] When the house of cards finally collapsed, they already had enough power over the government to force it bail them out with taxpayers money.  That is where laissez-faire capitalism inevitably leads to.

No.  That is where crony capitalism inevitably leads.  Nobody here is arguing for crony capitalism.
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July 08, 2014, 05:55:03 AM

No.  That's crony capitalism.  Laissez-faire economists oppose crony capitalism.  Please educate yourself here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism
Thank you, but I lived in the US 13 years starting with Reagan's election.  I have seen it happen in real time. And I have seen that here in Brazil too, before and after that. It was deregulation, not government intervention, that created the monster banks and all economic crises since then. 


Deregulation works if you let system clean out the mess and let companies go bankrupt.

Government supporting dead wood will only prolong the pain.
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July 08, 2014, 06:00:28 AM


Explanation
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July 08, 2014, 06:19:37 AM

I really wonder what this week will bring.. sideways would be interesting :d
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July 08, 2014, 06:27:49 AM

First we waited for the downtrend to end. Then we waited for the rally to start, according to the calendar. Smiley  Then we were waiting for the auction. What are we waiting for now?  Huh

The Winklevii ETF "COIN" to be activated on the 11th

What's on the 11th regarding COIN? 11th of what?

You're probably joking, right?

EDIT: I was of the impression they could be lucky to get it online this year.
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July 08, 2014, 06:39:18 AM

$So what compelling information-developments are happening in BTC to make the $ price increase?  You tell me.  An ETF?  Give me a break.... There's nothing new going on is there?
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July 08, 2014, 06:48:10 AM

And regulation does not make a market less free, as long as it is fair to all suppliers and customers

Jorge you're a riot! You say the funniest things sometimes  Cheesy

On a more serious note, this particular sentence highlights the way of thinking which makes statements like this possible: the assumption that it is possible to create universal regulations which will be "fair" to everybody and that YOU are capable of knowing what they are. Dangerous delusions, though funny. I feel conflicted about this Cheesy
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July 08, 2014, 06:51:57 AM

$So what compelling information-developments are happening in BTC to make the $ price increase?  You tell me.  An ETF?  Give me a break.... There's nothing new going on is there?

Check the fundamental analysis thread.  The average rate of adoption continues to increase at a steady rate.
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July 08, 2014, 06:52:13 AM

In a truly free laissez faire system nothing is "too big to fail." Tax exemptions come from governments, what market ever gave anyone a tax exemption for anything? Let alone a laissez faire market. Don't sacrifice intellectual integrity to prop up a political agenda.
Laissez Faire capitalism, which in the US was brought in by back starting with Reagan, first allowed banks and corporations to grow and merge without limits.  (Once upon a time, there was a US government that ordered the breakup of AT&T because it was too big.  Would you believe that?)   Huge companies meant cartels which meant fat profits which meant fat bribes and campaign contributions which meant laws favoring the richest, such as the end of the progressive income tax and all sorts of tax breaks, loopholes and tax heavens.  Laissez-faire capitalism (or extreme deregulation) then allowed banks and financial corporations to invent all sorts of virtual assets built on top of each other, take risks that were once unthinkable, engage in undetected massive fraud, cede control to foreign corporations, etc..  When the house of cards finally collapsed, they already had enough power over the government to force it bail them out with taxpayers money.  That is where laissez-faire capitalism inevitably leads to.



No.  That's crony capitalism.  Laissez-faire economists oppose crony capitalism.  Please educate yourself here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism


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July 08, 2014, 06:58:23 AM

We have been wipe sawing for the past few hours. Above resistance is definitely bullish which is a breakout from a double bottom. Below resistance is consolidation, neutral to slightly bearish.

https://i.imgur.com/vjp9vj3.jpg
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July 08, 2014, 07:06:30 AM

sub600 comin up

what a joke
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July 08, 2014, 07:14:51 AM

sum dumping on stamp? some mild so far dumping lol
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July 08, 2014, 07:22:39 AM



Check the fundamental analysis thread.  The average rate of adoption continues to increase at a steady rate.

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where in this jungle would I find this thread?

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July 08, 2014, 07:32:02 AM

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Check the fundamental analysis thread.  The average rate of adoption continues to increase at a steady rate.
where in this jungle would I find this thread?

Thank you

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=649453

(correct me if I'm wrong)
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July 08, 2014, 07:54:40 AM

Let's see if we can repeat June 12th.  Grin
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July 08, 2014, 07:59:46 AM

Guys and girls - this situation is going to resolve itself just like the situation in the 400s. We bounced around high to low and mid to low 400s for many weeks. Finally, there just were no more sellers. None. And once that happened, the bulls ran wild.

Well, that is what we are seeing again. No buying, but less and less selling. So unless sellers start selling more soon, then the selling will eventually slow to a crawl again. At that time, our only way forward will be up.

Now this could take another week or so or more - who knows - its all just "speculation" that we love.

But, me, I'm watching the sellers, not the buyers, for clues on how low this goes and where the local bottom really is.
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July 08, 2014, 08:30:56 AM

Guys and girls - this situation is going to resolve itself just like the situation in the 400s. We bounced around high to low and mid to low 400s for many weeks. Finally, there just were no more sellers. None. And once that happened, the bulls ran wild.

Well, that is what we are seeing again. No buying, but less and less selling. So unless sellers start selling more soon, then the selling will eventually slow to a crawl again. At that time, our only way forward will be up.

Now this could take another week or so or more - who knows - its all just "speculation" that we love.

But, me, I'm watching the sellers, not the buyers, for clues on how low this goes and where the local bottom really is.

heh this ain't gonna help (although I'm 'hoping' most folk will resist the knee jerk reactions'

http://www.coindesk.com/isis-bitcoin-donations-fund-jihadist-movements/

should not be that much of a shock that folks like that are gonna try to use btc in evil ways....

buying opportunity next week? Wink
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