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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 5 (3.4%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.7%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.4%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (6.8%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (10.1%)
$95K to $100K - 29 (19.6%)
>$100K - 86 (58.1%)
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December 08, 2014, 04:24:59 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland. Still going sideways I see.

Small dump with standard bounceback overnight. Nothing new.

I guess everyone's waiting for the auction payment deadline.



yup pretty much.

They already moved. Now what? Gonna make up a new deadline?
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December 08, 2014, 04:28:46 PM

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I sometimes become almost curious enough to peek and see what she's posting at me when she knows I have her on ignore (same old tadalafil broken record?) but I'm not that curious yet.
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This old chestnut again?

I'll say the same as I did 6 months ago or a month ago.

We'll probably reach our old ATH by mid summer, and hit anywhere from $7000 to $12,000 before crashing down to $2000-$2500, possibly before year's end.

We should be above $10,000 for good by this time next year.

Unless something comes along to break Bitcoin before then.
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December 08, 2014, 04:32:04 PM

Very interesting : https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1E9QDjSzUMuYdy4vePXxZhmkGeopkm1VfZ
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December 08, 2014, 04:33:33 PM

Something not right about that.
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December 08, 2014, 04:36:35 PM



yeah my address is missing from that list .
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December 08, 2014, 04:42:31 PM


Wierd ... all the lots of about 5k and  3k have small amounts deducted for miner fees.
That 52 k is odd tho ...
Maybe someone made them an offer they could not refuse for an extra 50k over the weekend (Draper ... 2k + 50k = 52k)
Still does not explain why the total is over 52k and not under as you would expect after fees

Could they even do that, without auctioning them? Do they not have some sort of fiduciary duty ?

Answers on a postcard ...
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December 08, 2014, 05:00:49 PM


Explanation
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December 08, 2014, 05:09:50 PM


Wierd ... all the lots of about 5k and  3k have small amounts deducted for miner fees.
That 52 k is odd tho ...
Maybe someone made them an offer they could not refuse for an extra 50k over the weekend (Draper ... 2k + 50k = 52k)
Still does not explain why the total is over 52k and not under as you would expect after fees

Could they even do that, without auctioning them? Do they not have some sort of fiduciary duty ?

Answers on a postcard ...

Maybe they had the 100k BTC in an address, and the idea was going to be to send 50K split to the new winners, and 50K to a new storage address..... maybe one of the 2000 blocks did not sell? and so is being returned with the 50 k to a storage address?

(who knows though, i have not looked at this, nor thought about it very hard tbh ^ just first thing that comes to mind + I kinda lean towards thinking the lots would all sell, so probably some other explanation, actually thinking out loud here, but what is with the 4999.95 BTC amounts, if they were all going to be distributed to winners, would that mean that winners all won 5K ie 2k+3k bids? if that is the case then seems all very symmetrical to me)
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December 08, 2014, 05:11:20 PM

I think it's funny that all the bears are out in force today.

In the last 24 hours the price has lost 5 GBP , I dunno what that is in dollars (about 8 USD?) but a packet of 20 cigarettes is now about 9 GBP in the UK.

Embrace this glorious day bears.

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December 08, 2014, 05:13:40 PM




https://blockchain.info/fr/address/1E9QDjSzUMuYdy4vePXxZhmkGeopkm1VfZ


https://blockchain.info/address/1CaGxqCQv2ofqLf37HCUQoLujzRMaz74LK

this link seem show the winner of auction, i wonder why the coin keep moving around Huh and who said that Draper win 2000, there is not 2000 instead 2999 btc

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December 08, 2014, 05:16:35 PM

NotLambchop, your average post count is 16.55 posts per day. For comparison, JayJuanGee, who may have achieved this subforum's record of lowest information density * post frequency, has only 14.2 posts per day on average.

You should consider getting help for your Bitcoin addiction. Cheesy


Yeah right......  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue Tongue Tongue  Even if you, Blitz, and possibly some other may experience some difficulties recognizing value in my various posts,  NOT Notporkchop and I are in different categories. 


NOT Notporkchop spreads FUD, and I do NOT.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Tongue Tongue Tongue
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Maybe they had the 100k BTC in an address, and the idea was going to be to send 50K split to the new winners, and 50K to a new storage address..... maybe one of the 2000 blocks did not sell? and so is being returned with the 50 k to a storage address?

(who knows though, i have not looked at this, nor thought about it very hard tbh ^ just first thing that comes to mind + I kinda lean towards thinking the lots would all sell, so probably some other explanation, actually thinking out loud here, but what is with the 4999.95 BTC amounts, if they were all going to be distributed to winners, would that mean that winners all won 5K ie 2k+3k bids? if that is the case then seems all very symmetrical to me)

I thought of that, but did not want to come across as a permabear troll FUD spreader! Like you, I also think it is unlikely. Why hold back 2k?
Yeh, the distribution is also wierdly symmetrical  Undecided
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December 08, 2014, 05:23:36 PM


Also reproductive impairment.

Would anyone hit on that?

Edit on further consideration: Maybe a brony would.
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December 08, 2014, 05:28:34 PM


Wierd ... all the lots of about 5k and  3k have small amounts deducted for miner fees.
That 52 k is odd tho ...
Maybe someone made them an offer they could not refuse for an extra 50k over the weekend (Draper ... 2k + 50k = 52k)
Still does not explain why the total is over 52k and not under as you would expect after fees

Could they even do that, without auctioning them? Do they not have some sort of fiduciary duty ?

Answers on a postcard ...

I can't imagine that they sold 50k extra just like that. Draper must be late on his payment.

Edit: If he was a bit dumber than I thought, he forgot to herd the cats in advance.
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December 08, 2014, 05:29:50 PM


Wierd ... all the lots of about 5k and  3k have small amounts deducted for miner fees.
That 52 k is odd tho ...
Maybe someone made them an offer they could not refuse for an extra 50k over the weekend (Draper ... 2k + 50k = 52k)
Still does not explain why the total is over 52k and not under as you would expect after fees

Could they even do that, without auctioning them? Do they not have some sort of fiduciary duty ?

Answers on a postcard ...

I can't imagine that they sold 50k extra just like that. Draper must be late on his payment.


somebody didnt pay for his lot?

such demand, so bullish.
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Maybe they had the 100k BTC in an address, and the idea was going to be to send 50K split to the new winners, and 50K to a new storage address..... maybe one of the 2000 blocks did not sell? and so is being returned with the 50 k to a storage address?

(who knows though, i have not looked at this, nor thought about it very hard tbh ^ just first thing that comes to mind + I kinda lean towards thinking the lots would all sell, so probably some other explanation, actually thinking out loud here, but what is with the 4999.95 BTC amounts, if they were all going to be distributed to winners, would that mean that winners all won 5K ie 2k+3k bids? if that is the case then seems all very symmetrical to me)

I thought of that, but did not want to come across as a permabear troll FUD spreader! Like you, I also think it is unlikely. Why hold back 2k?
Yeh, the distribution is also wierdly symmetrical  Undecided

hah... do you read this thread very closely ? I am certainly not a perma bear, nor a fud spreader lol... but then I am not here to fanfare  either, if there is a chance a 2K block did not sell (or did not get paid for)  then that would be interesting , is all.. and yes I know it sooooundsss FUD like/perma-bear talk, but it ain't , just speculation bro.  Like I said, I tend to lean towards the blocks all selling.


Did the US marshalls say they had 144K of Bitcoins from Ross himself?

so the 99,999 just split into 11 lots (there were 11 bidders!?) could have been split 52K back to storage , and 48k sent to winners (the 11 addresses + the 52 K ,  add up to is the 100k and then the 44 K in the address 12pfPVkSNPb49Ez6GDuc4DuDdw4WCDCVef is the remaining of the 144k from Ross??)

I dunno,pure  speculation tbh


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December 08, 2014, 05:31:39 PM


I can't imagine that they sold 50k extra just like that. Draper must be late on his payment.

Agreed re 50k ... just putting it out there.
Draper late on payment lol. Having tantrum cos didn't get enough hehe
Or can't be arsed cos he's out on a yacht and it's pocket change. Meh, the FED's know I'm good for it Wink
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December 08, 2014, 05:32:04 PM


Wierd ... all the lots of about 5k and  3k have small amounts deducted for miner fees.
That 52 k is odd tho ...
Maybe someone made them an offer they could not refuse for an extra 50k over the weekend (Draper ... 2k + 50k = 52k)
Still does not explain why the total is over 52k and not under as you would expect after fees

Could they even do that, without auctioning them? Do they not have some sort of fiduciary duty ?

Answers on a postcard ...

I can't imagine that they sold 50k extra just like that. Draper must be late on his payment.


somebody didnt pay for his lot?

such demand, so bullish.

Maybe they don't take bitcoin. That would have been faster.[insert relevant emoticon]
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December 08, 2014, 05:32:22 PM



Maybe they had the 100k BTC in an address, and the idea was going to be to send 50K split to the new winners, and 50K to a new storage address..... maybe one of the 2000 blocks did not sell? and so is being returned with the 50 k to a storage address?

(who knows though, i have not looked at this, nor thought about it very hard tbh ^ just first thing that comes to mind + I kinda lean towards thinking the lots would all sell, so probably some other explanation, actually thinking out loud here, but what is with the 4999.95 BTC amounts, if they were all going to be distributed to winners, would that mean that winners all won 5K ie 2k+3k bids? if that is the case then seems all very symmetrical to me)

I thought of that, but did not want to come across as a permabear troll FUD spreader! Like you, I also think it is unlikely. Why hold back 2k?
Yeh, the distribution is also wierdly symmetrical  Undecided

hah... do you read this thread very closely ? I am certainly not a perma bear, nor a fud spreader lol... but then I am not here to fanfare  either, if there is a chance a 2K block did not sell (or did not get paid for)  then that would be interesting , is all.. and yes I know it sooooundsss FUD like/perma-bear talk, but it ain't , just speculation bro.  Like I said, I tend to lean towards the blocks all selling.


Did the US marshalls say they had 144K of Bitcoins from Ross himself?

so the 99,999 just split into 11 lots (there were 11 bidders?) could have been split 52K back to storage , and 48k sent to winners (the 11 addresses add up to is the 100k and then the 44 K in the address 12pfPVkSNPb49Ez6GDuc4DuDdw4WCDCVef is the remaining of the 144k from Ross??)

I dunno,pure  speculation tbh




draper said he won a lot with 2k - do not find in the transaction - but I also assume we have more than 1 winner
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