Bitfloor is a scam.
I love when I get to hide a poster entirely due to sheer useless post content. Welcome to that list.
Bitfloor is working fine for me right now.
You might make it today too. Not sure if trolling or just actually stupid. In case of #2:
BitFloor used to be a trading platform. It is most certainly not working fine; or, if it is ("hehehe website works hehehe") then it has pretty much always been fine. You might notice there is nowhere to trade or deposit, only to withdraw. Also in the case of #2, I apologize for being a bit short-tempered today. I am irritated based on the post from infested999 I will be replying to further down...
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If you had BTC in bitfloor a few years ago that you lost when their hot wallet was hacked back in the day, that was gone, and still is gone.
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You mean 10 months ago, right?
Was it really only last fall? It felt like it was almost 2 years ago, now. Wow, Bitcoinland time dilation is real!
It is the latter.
Yeah. I am glad that I had very little (a couple dozen BTC, worth a lot now, but not then) in there at that time.
You were under NDA to not disclose that Roman was using IAFCU. If you had any trust, why didn't you go through with it and buy up people's debt?
Since you were buying the debt at a 1:2 ratio, that means that you thought there was a less than 50% chance you will never see the money again, and you had a personal relationship with BitFloor...
Okay, I will spell it out for you a second time. I began offering ratios to folks to buy their debt, based on the factors I was aware of at the time. And therefore, yes, if I was offering a ratio, I thought the opportunity existed over time to recover either that money or something of equivalent value. (I was working on a decentralized trading project -- still am -- and in that potential future, the money I had lost would be recovered indirectly over time, by attracting and offering vouchers to folks with BTC debt, etc, into the new trading platform.) If you wish to believe that I had takers or not is up to you.
I got into communication with BitFloor explore a simple method to roll over accounts into one consolidated account of debt in my name, and how to prove with contracts etc to Roman that this had occurred. A few days later, their lawyer and mine had NDA set up and filled me in on the plans (still not guaranteed at that time of course -- or even now, this very minute, since none of us yet has our money back, but things are looking up, at least). This was
not a "personal" relationship with a damn thing; it was a contractual, business relationship.
This part is the part that may really, really be hard for you to understand. It really shouldn't be, because it makes financial sense in a way, too. The reason that I didn't go through with it is because
that would be wrong. My ratios were based on information that didn't include the communication from Roman's side. That information was compelling enough in detail that I comfortably believed in us getting our funds back. Thus, I felt there were pretty decent odds that the likely potential future was one where I would have many unhappy fellows wishing they had never sold me that debt, when the money started rolling in. Given my other projects, that would not make sense.
If I were an immoral dickhead like many folks around here, I would buy the debt anyway, and this account would disappear, and I would alter plans slightly and offer the trading platform (if I ever finish it and the marketplace is in a condition for it to succeed) from a new account. My identity is still non-associated in real life, with this account. But I am not in this forum or Bitcoin itself for short-term fleecing of other inhabitants of this planet. That aspect of human behavior is how we came to need Bitcoin in the first place. (Otherwise the banks would be honest, lovely people, rather than like this:http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/06/19/bank-of-america-gave-bonuses-to-foreclose-on-clients-lied-to-homeowners/)
Anyone who cannot understand why one might behave honestly and sacrifice short-term gain (which is inconsequential as time goes to inf), where said gain is not part of a net-sum-positive trade, is part of the problem.
