bitfloor issues?

[joesmoe2012]

So what happened to all the EU users?

Not sure there were many seeing as Bitfloor operated off of ACH Pushes/Pulls (only work for US banks). Did they even have international funding options?

There made an announcement telling EU users to wait for another update that will tell them how to get their money back, since they can't open an account at IAFCU.

OH, i must have missed that. Haven't heard anything about it recently though.

[Pteppic]

I am an EU user still awaiting a refund, but I just had a check on bitfloor and my USD balance was set to zero a week ago. I have basically written off my funds there, so any change is a positive for me. Who knows, maybe there is an international wire heading my way. I won't be holding my breath though.

[TheButterZone]

I am an EU user still awaiting a refund, but I just had a check on bitfloor and my USD balance was set to zero a week ago. I have basically written off my funds there, so any change is a positive for me. Who knows, maybe there is an international wire heading my way. I won't be holding my breath though.

Your balance was set to 0 on https://bitfloor.com/user/overview ?

[Pteppic]

Your balance was set to 0 on https://bitfloor.com/user/overview ?

Yep, there are no details on the transaction, it just shows my balance reduced to zero (well, less than 1 cent) on the 14th November.

[Pteppic]

And today I have received a USD cheque in the post. Awesome! Now I just need to work out how to pay it in and try not to think about the BTC price when the first people started getting refunds...

[FenixRD]

And today I have received a USD cheque in the post. Awesome! Now I just need to work out how to pay it in and try not to think about the BTC price when the first people started getting refunds...

I wonder if Roman managed to hold on to enough BTC that he is now faced with the moral dilemma of having the funds to pay back those he promised to pay for the first hack (assuming we peg it at the USD valuation at the time, obviously, or this would be a nonsensical statement, that someone surely would have interpreted to). It was $250K worth at the time, iirc. Incredible to even be doing this math right now. God, I *hope* he still has at least several hundred BTC anymore.

Every time we have a run-up like this I always think, well, we won't get one of those again. But each one is as big or bigger (% gain) than the last. Wild. Though I would say we won't see many more of these, and this one might be the largest single % gain we'll get. Only in the sense that it has cracked mainstream, and the cracking was part of this spike. There's a study somewhere about social networks and viral adoption/acceptance and a sort of "point of no return" where the snowball is too large to stop. I'd say we're there.

[Joenaes]

Your balance was set to 0 on https://bitfloor.com/user/overview ?

Yep, there are no details on the transaction, it just shows my balance reduced to zero (well, less than 1 cent) on the 14th November.

I have the same. I filled in some form with my bank details a few weeks ago and a few days ago I saw that my balance was set to 0.
I checke with my bank, but nothing is there.

Very frustrating since I had like $5k+ there. Im a EU user btw.

What is my best move? Should I contact someone? Bitfloors mail hasnt answered any of my previous 5 e-mails.

Edit:

time   amount   balance
Thu, 14 Nov 2013 19:29:55 GMT   -5012.6400   0.0000 USD
Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:05:30 GMT   5027.6400   5027.6400 USD
Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:05:30 GMT   -15.0000   5012.6400 USD
(fee) match id: null

[TheButterZone]

I'm selling my 1.84915808 BTC debt owed by Bitfloor, to a lawyer who will use legal means (a lien, or?) to be compensated by the owner and/or thief.

I have not been refunded this BTC amount since the Bitfloor hack reported here: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/2139/bitfloor-hacked-250000-missing/ - and to my knowledge, nearly all of the "hacked" BTC has not been refunded to all Bitfloor customers, so my debt is just a drop in the bucket.

My account/BTC ownership/debt will be legally transferred to you. I took screenshots before the site went down.

[Rassah]

I'm selling my 1.84915808 BTC debt owed by Bitfloor, to a lawyer who will use legal means (a lien, or?) to be compensated by the owner and/or thief.

I have not been refunded this BTC amount since the Bitfloor hack reported here: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/2139/bitfloor-hacked-250000-missing/ - and to my knowledge, nearly all of the "hacked" BTC has not been refunded to all Bitfloor customers, so my debt is just a drop in the bucket.

My account/BTC ownership/debt will be legally transferred to you. I took screenshots before the site went down.

There is no money to get out of that company, since they lost all funds and don't have a business any more, so a lawsuit will be useless.

[TheButterZone]

I'm selling my 1.84915808 BTC debt owed by Bitfloor, to a lawyer who will use legal means (a lien, or?) to be compensated by the owner and/or thief.

I have not been refunded this BTC amount since the Bitfloor hack reported here: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/2139/bitfloor-hacked-250000-missing/ - and to my knowledge, nearly all of the "hacked" BTC has not been refunded to all Bitfloor customers, so my debt is just a drop in the bucket.

My account/BTC ownership/debt will be legally transferred to you. I took screenshots before the site went down.

There is no money to get out of that company, since they lost all funds and don't have a business any more, so a lawsuit will be useless.

Roman Shtylman is not a) dead b) without any liquid or solid assets whatsoever c) unable to have a lien applied or wages garnished. ~$250k (~24k BTC at $10.46 each) is not an impossible amount to recover - and he already refunded a tiny fraction the BTC (my amount above is post fractional refund). He's already publicly confessed to gross negligence in not so few words, so he will only be making it worse for himself by suddenly pretending it wasn't and forcing us to take him to court and go for punitive plus actual damages. Discovery might even turn up him being the actual thief, assuming he didn't do forensic-proof evidence destruction on Bitfloor's server(s).

This should be an out of court settlement after 1 hour of a lawyer or arbitrator's time, billed at $500 period.

[TheButterZone]

Good to know @coinbase has the man responsible for the loss of 24,000 BTC (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/2139/bitfloor-hacked-250000-missing/) on their team (coinbase.com/about)

"Roman is a software engineer who has worked at all levels of the software stack from robotics and embedded systems to web frontends and mobile apps. Prior to Coinbase, he founded CourseOff and worked in high frequency trading. When not making, he enjoys ultimate frisbee, snowboarding, and short walks on the beach."

Is Coinbase going to be paying the remainder due to all of us Roman Shytlman/Bitfloor victims? Reminded of how Kraken is handling the Mark Karpeles/MtGox victims.

[Bitfloorcase]

There is a lawsuit forming against Roman
We are 29 people, with over 5 million USD worth of bitcoin that was stolen by Roman. We are not hack victims. We are a group of people who bought bitcoin from Bitfloor right before Roman chose to take his site down.

I have spoken to Roman personally. He remains defiant and aggressive. There was no reasoning with him
At a certain point you think he would consider it wise to clear his name, address the issue. The entire conversation he just repeated "I cant disclose anything to you" or "I cant say" and then he mumbled something about talking to his lawyer but he refused to name who said lawyer was when asked.

[joesmoe2012]

I can't remember if I got my funds from BitFloor or not, I'll have to do a little research. If I didn't get my funds, I'll join your lawsuit.