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[Junko]

Please check freeroll tourney #8189811 and and check the IPs and see what occurred there please thanks.

Chip dumping/collusion/likely multi-accounting in progress. Not good for business.

noobium
stupidnoob
villian5
tabasco
scooter

Also in this tourney 2 players called 1967YS1967 and Noodle are clearly colluding. Check their hand histories, folding monsters to each other, etc.

The table ID they were at is 8186296

I am Noodle and I can only speak for myself. I do admit to implicit collusion which is a lot different from actual collusion which was what was going on on the other table. When I saw what those clowns (or clown, if indeed they are all the same person) were doing, I told the only player left with me on my table in the table chat what was going on over there (chip dump/collusion) and to expect a big chip dump going to one player - on a hand that was lasting over 1 hour, by the way, because the fool or fools were calling/min-raising each other pre-flop on one hand which as I just mentioned, lasted over one hour and into the break  - and sure enough, four full stacks (five if you count his own) of chips minus 1 chip from each player involved all went to one player and all in that one hand -> noobium (who eventually bubbled out later, btw LOL) though his buddy(or his other account - they talk the same way in chat which the chat records will show), stupidnoob finished third.

Like I said, I was implicitly colluding in that I wasn't going to raise/call the only other player at my table's big blind because of what was happening on the other table. Never in chat nor anywhere else did I suggest we fold to each other's big blind. Call me crazy, but I don't think its fair to be playing heads up with blinds at 500-1000 while at the other table they were 9-handed and five of those slowplaying one hand for an hour with blinds at 10-20.

The hand histories/replay, IP addresses and chat logs will give the admins and security team all they need to know.

I've seen the powers that be perma-ban cheaters and multi-accounters in the past since the beginning and hope they do the right thing here.

I dont care about the bots. I love playing against bots, ez game. It's the colluders/chip dumpers/multi-accounters who try to give themselves an unfair advantage who f things up for everyone else. (even though I won this tournament despite them/him - again, lol).

[mastakith]

Please check freeroll tourney #8189811 and and check the IPs and see what occurred there please thanks.

Chip dumping/collusion/likely multi-accounting in progress. Not good for business.

noobium
stupidnoob
villian5
tabasco
scooter

Also in this tourney 2 players called 1967YS1967 and Noodle are clearly colluding. Check their hand histories, folding monsters to each other, etc.

The table ID they were at is 8186296

I am Noodle and I can only speak for myself. I do admit to implicit collusion which is a lot different from actual collusion which was what was going on on the other table. When I saw what those clowns (or clown, if indeed they are all the same person) were doing, I told the only player left with me on my table in the table chat what was going on over there (chip dump/collusion) and to expect a big chip dump going to one player - on a hand that was lasting over 1 hour, by the way, because the fool or fools were calling/min-raising each other pre-flop on one hand which as I just mentioned, lasted over one hour and into the break  - and sure enough, four full stacks (five if you count his own) of chips minus 1 chip from each player involved all went to one player and all in that one hand -> noobium (who eventually bubbled out later, btw LOL) though his buddy(or his other account - they talk the same way in chat which the chat records will show), stupidnoob finished third.

Like I said, I was implicitly colluding in that I wasn't going to raise/call the only other player at my table's big blind because of what was happening on the other table. Never in chat nor anywhere else did I suggest we fold to each other's big blind. Call me crazy, but I don't think its fair to be playing heads up with blinds at 500-1000 while at the other table they were 9-handed and five of those slowplaying one hand for an hour with blinds at 10-20.

The hand histories/replay, IP addresses and chat logs will give the admins and security team all they need to know.

I've seen the powers that be perma-ban cheaters and multi-accounters in the past since the beginning and hope they do the right thing here.

I dont care about the bots. I love playing against bots, ez game. It's the colluders/chip dumpers/multi-accounters who try to give themselves an unfair advantage who f things up for everyone else. (even though I won this tournament despite them/him - again, lol).

Collusion is collusion, regardless of situation. Just because other people are doing something wrong doesn't give you the right to do something wrong as well.

And since you just admitted to it, you and the other player should be banned as well as these other guys (or 1 guy with a bunch of accounts).

[Junko]

Please check freeroll tourney #8189811 and and check the IPs and see what occurred there please thanks.

Chip dumping/collusion/likely multi-accounting in progress. Not good for business.

noobium
stupidnoob
villian5
tabasco
scooter

Also in this tourney 2 players called 1967YS1967 and Noodle are clearly colluding. Check their hand histories, folding monsters to each other, etc.

The table ID they were at is 8186296

I am Noodle and I can only speak for myself. I do admit to implicit collusion which is a lot different from actual collusion which was what was going on on the other table. When I saw what those clowns (or clown, if indeed they are all the same person) were doing, I told the only player left with me on my table in the table chat what was going on over there (chip dump/collusion) and to expect a big chip dump going to one player - on a hand that was lasting over 1 hour, by the way, because the fool or fools were calling/min-raising each other pre-flop on one hand which as I just mentioned, lasted over one hour and into the break  - and sure enough, four full stacks (five if you count his own) of chips minus 1 chip from each player involved all went to one player and all in that one hand -> noobium (who eventually bubbled out later, btw LOL) though his buddy(or his other account - they talk the same way in chat which the chat records will show), stupidnoob finished third.

Like I said, I was implicitly colluding in that I wasn't going to raise/call the only other player at my table's big blind because of what was happening on the other table. Never in chat nor anywhere else did I suggest we fold to each other's big blind. Call me crazy, but I don't think its fair to be playing heads up with blinds at 500-1000 while at the other table they were 9-handed and five of those slowplaying one hand for an hour with blinds at 10-20.

The hand histories/replay, IP addresses and chat logs will give the admins and security team all they need to know.

I've seen the powers that be perma-ban cheaters and multi-accounters in the past since the beginning and hope they do the right thing here.

I dont care about the bots. I love playing against bots, ez game. It's the colluders/chip dumpers/multi-accounters who try to give themselves an unfair advantage who f things up for everyone else. (even though I won this tournament despite them/him - again, lol).

Collusion is collusion, regardless of situation. Just because other people are doing something wrong doesn't give you the right to do something wrong as well.

And since you just admitted to it, you and the other player should be banned as well as these other guys (or 1 guy with a bunch of accounts).

If you don't know the difference between "implicit/implied" collusion and actual collusion in poker then there's really nothing to discuss. Look it it up is the only thing I can suggest. Anyway, I submitted my case and hopefully the admins will take a look at it and judge for themselves.

[mastakith]

I understand the difference, but it's cheating either way. Just because others cheated doesn't give you the right to do the same.

Btw, you can also add villain, villain2, villain3, villain4 in addition to villain5 to that list.

Seems like the site doesn't give a shit since these guys aren't even trying to make it non-obvious

[NLNico]

If you are on the bubble and there is 1 shortstack left which goes all-in.. most players will check flop/turn/river to make sure the shortstack has the biggest chance to lose and you are ITM. This is implicit collusion. It is not cheating, you do not officially agree to collude against the guy, but it's an obvious strategy to get ITM.

I assume mastakith means something like that.

[mastakith]

If you are on the bubble and there is 1 shortstack left which goes all-in.. most players will check flop/turn/river to make sure the shortstack has the biggest chance to lose and you are ITM. This is implicit collusion. It is not cheating, you do not officially agree to collude against the guy, but it's an obvious strategy to get ITM.

I assume mastakith means something like that.

Nah, these 2 guys folded over 100+ hands to each other without playing a single hand.

As far as I'm concerned they're just as guilty for collusion as the villain clones and the other guys.

[Junko]

If you are on the bubble and there is 1 shortstack left which goes all-in.. most players will check flop/turn/river to make sure the shortstack has the biggest chance to lose and you are ITM. This is implicit collusion. It is not cheating, you do not officially agree to collude against the guy, but it's an obvious strategy to get ITM.

I assume mastakith means something like that.

That is just one example of implicit/implied collusion. what I and the other player on my table were doing is another example. Neither of which is cheating.

Not sure what you mean by "I assume mastakith means something like that." since he doesn't seem to understand the concept that implicit/implied collusion isn't cheating since he says its cheating.

Anyway, the guy(noobium/stoopidnoob/villian1-20 et al) is still at it -multiaccounting/chipdumping: tourney #8201895. At least he had the decency not to drag out the chip dump over an hour during one hand this time.

Along with this nugget from chat:

[Junko]

If you are on the bubble and there is 1 shortstack left which goes all-in.. most players will check flop/turn/river to make sure the shortstack has the biggest chance to lose and you are ITM. This is implicit collusion. It is not cheating, you do not officially agree to collude against the guy, but it's an obvious strategy to get ITM.

I assume mastakith means something like that.

Nah, these 2 guys folded over 100+ hands to each other without playing a single hand.

As far as I'm concerned they're just as guilty for collusion as the villain clones and the other guys.

You're high, dude. We both could of just as well have sat out while the cheating was going on on the other table until the tables finally got rebalanced. Same difference. As I stated before, When I realized what was going on on the other table, I decided not to raise/call the only other guy at my table's big blind and apparently he seemed fit to do the same because he too realized what was going on on the other table. Again, what was going on on the other table was a long, drawn out, multi-player/multi-account chip dump. One hand lasting over one hour because each of the accounts involved int the chip dump were min-raising calling each other and taking the full time to do so.

So everyone on the other table were playing honestly and getting knocked until there were two of us left. I was wondering wtf, why havent the tables been balanced yet. 2 on my table and 9 still on the other, so I looked and thats when I realized what was up. While our table was heads up and the blinds 500-1000 and 600-1200 whatever, the other table was still on level one, 9 players with the blinds 10-20.

So yeah, like I said, you high and give me some of that shit.

[mastakith]

If you are on the bubble and there is 1 shortstack left which goes all-in.. most players will check flop/turn/river to make sure the shortstack has the biggest chance to lose and you are ITM. This is implicit collusion. It is not cheating, you do not officially agree to collude against the guy, but it's an obvious strategy to get ITM.

I assume mastakith means something like that.

Nah, these 2 guys folded over 100+ hands to each other without playing a single hand.

As far as I'm concerned they're just as guilty for collusion as the villain clones and the other guys.

You're high, dude. We both could of just as well have sat out while the cheating was going on on the other table until the tables finally got rebalanced. Same difference. As I stated before, When I realized what was going on on the other table, I decided not to raise/call the only other guy at my table's big blind and apparently he seemed fit to do the same because he too realized what was going on on the other table. Again, what was going on on the other table was a long, drawn out, multi-player/multi-account chip dump. One hand lasting over one hour because each of the accounts involved int the chip dump were min-raising calling each other and taking the full time to do so.

So everyone on the other table were playing honestly and getting knocked until there were two of us left. I was wondering wtf, why havent the tables been balanced yet. 2 on my table and 9 still on the other, so I looked and thats when I realized what was up. While our table was heads up and the blinds 500-1000 and 600-1200 whatever, the other table was still on level one, 9 players with the blinds 10-20.

So yeah, like I said, you high and give me some of that shit.

So 2 wrongs make a right here?

Just because other players are cheating doesn't give you the right to cheat as well.

[Junko]

#thinkImbeingtrolledlol

[mastakith]

#thinkImbeingtrolledlol

You seem to have this idea that it's OK to take matters into your own hands.

It's the site's job to deal with collusion. You can't just do whatever you want because YOU feel what you're doing is fair.

[Junko]

#thinkImbeingtrolledlol

You seem to have this idea that it's OK to take matters into your own hands.

It's the site's job to deal with collusion. You can't just do whatever you want because YOU feel what you're doing is fair.

Sure, whatever you say, buddy. thumbsup.gif

[st1letto]

what happens to satoshi poker?
i won a tourney and tried to withdraw s500, but it just vanished...
any info would be welcome!

[mem]

HERE IS ME SAYING I WILL TRY AND TEST YOUR SITE

hello, may I suggest that you have a trusted AV Vendor do a report on your clients exe, it will set most users mind to ease.
Also, if you do not already you should have hashes of the client download file so users can confirmed it has not been tampered with.

I love poker, will try and set up an account tonight, was on seals for the first time in 3 months last night

HERE IS YOU BLATANTLY LYING

It's clear that mem has little integrity, and not much in the way of intelligence either.  He's a liar and a shill.  He's not competent enough, nor intectually honest enough, to serve as some kind of "watchdog".

I would say that goes a little too far, but yes, i am annoyed about mem consequently rejecting satoshi poker on the gambling list. I feel some sort of conflict of interest in his list, hence the reason why he refuses honest businesses and uses non-business related reasons to flame businesses on his list.

At this moment we are content not to be listed on it, as an unstable individual as him/her can do only more damage than good.

I have serious reservations about a site operator that after 1 week of waiting resorts to lying simply because he wasn't added to my list quick enough.
Im dealing with about 6 new casinos right now, 3 are being extremely decent about my lack of time and are working with me to get their site vetted and added.

Here we have you being a a nasty lying sook because you didnt get your way after making no effort besides a reply posted to my thread to get your site reviewed.

Hi op, I'll be reviewing your site soon.

Looks all legit after so long in operation, such a shame you had to lie and attempt to bully yourself to the front of the list.
Anyway, shithead operator != shitty service.
Seems your customer support is also good, in fact the only issue I ever took was the above (lies, threats etc to get reviewed first).

[st1letto]

what are you talking about - the site operator went missing and the support ended 10+ days ago, heh!
they are in the wind, it looks like...

[mem]

what are you talking about - the site operator went missing and the support ended 10+ days ago, heh!
they are in the wind, it looks like...

are you shitting me

well blow me down, I was right all along.
Next time I have someone sending me threats via PM to jump the review process I'll make them wait +1 year.

edit: batman is sad: http://memslist.com/?action=site_status&url=satoshipoker.org

[notserp]

what are you talking about - the site operator went missing and the support ended 10+ days ago, heh!
they are in the wind, it looks like...

so this site is closed? did they run with btc?

i never played here besides the promo

[BitcoinFlush]

Hey guys,

Site is not dead, we are just restructuring ownership. Support haven't gone missing as as you guys posted my skype: bp_van_oort, let me also post my emailaddress: bpvanoort@gmail.com.

I just dont have the time to run this project anymore and have already posted a public auction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=570030

As for the collusion pointed out in this thread, i will have it investigated.

[st1letto]

what will happen to player funds?
can i put them to withdrawal and hope they get transferred once you solve your operations issues?

wish you well and a successful solution to this situation..

[BitcoinFlush]

Just processed all pending withdrawals