Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[slackert]

Impressive that you are using 3*1080ti and a 1070 off a single 850W PSU. Are they all set to 65% TPD?

How difficult is it to commence mining on a USB based OS? I am using HDD's and Windows 10 ATM, I would love to expand and use USB OS.

I have the 1080ti's set to 70% TPD and the 1070 mini to 80% TDP. My next rig will have a 1000w power supply so I can test out power levels better. I do think the 70% TPD on the 1080ti's is the sweet spot for now.

[Makinson]

Impressive that you are using 3*1080ti and a 1070 off a single 850W PSU. Are they all set to 65% TPD?

How difficult is it to commence mining on a USB based OS? I am using HDD's and Windows 10 ATM, I would love to expand and use USB OS.

I have the 1080ti's set to 70% TPD and the 1070 mini to 80% TDP. My next rig will have a 1000w power supply so I can test out power levels better. I do think the 70% TPD on the 1080ti's is the sweet spot for now.

I have similar setup and it is best for me.

[philipma1957]

Impressive that you are using 3*1080ti and a 1070 off a single 850W PSU. Are they all set to 65% TPD?

How difficult is it to commence mining on a USB based OS? I am using HDD's and Windows 10 ATM, I would love to expand and use USB OS.

I have the 1080ti's set to 70% TPD and the 1070 mini to 80% TDP. My next rig will have a 1000w power supply so I can test out power levels better. I do think the 70% TPD on the 1080ti's is the sweet spot for now.

I have similar setup and it is best for me.

tend to agree.

I can get much better sols per watts setting in the 55% tdp area but lose a lot of hash

And when you go past 80%  they suck power like mad.  so mine are 68 to 72% tdp  unless price of coin jumps a lot I then go closer to 80%

other points  a decent mobo is a 2-3 year item

I tend to sell cards every late spring early summer.  I have space I have power but in house power is costly and keeping cards cool is hard.
I don not mind 2 card 3 card rigs now and bumping them to 4 cards in the winter.

I have 7 rigs using 14 cards
a 1 card
a 3  card
five 2 card rigs.

AND the solar array rigs

 4  of them

1 two card 1080 ti
1 two card 1070

1 three card 1080 ti
1 three card 1070

[flminer]

Am finally making a little headway to having a nice little farm. Up to one 6x rx480, and two 6x 1080 ti rigs.  
All the help and advise that has been given is VERY much appreciated! Thank you all so very much!

Also have a little mutt rig with 2x 1080 ti, 1x 1070, and 1x 980 ti lol

[philipma1957]

Am finally making a little headway to having a nice little farm. Up to one 6x rx480, and two 6x 1080 ti rigs.  
All the help and advise that has been given is VERY much appreciated! Thank you all so very much!

Also have a little mutt rig with 2x 1080 ti, 1x 1070, and 1x 980 ti lol

nice   I will be shipping more cards to you on july 5th so it will be bigger.

[citronick]

Cryptomined's review.... P106-100 NVIDIA 1060 Mining Cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9deSVpjm1Kk

so in conclusion.....

1. same performance as existing gaming 1060s..... even though touted to be less 200 bucks -- its a mining card with no video out so no sell value back to the gaming world

2. with VEGA coming with monster HBM2 performance (ETH loves fast memory).... IMHO that will just kill ETH mining with even higher difficulty and cuts profitability ..... and maybe trigger exodus on miners going to ETC and other coins.... GPU mining will be less attractive

unless.... we spend more money in VEGA mining rigs (VEGA 500$? 1200$?)

3. With ETH POS coming..... VEGA coming..... that perfect storm will contribute to a massive ETH difficulty around the corner.

4. While GPU mining is at its boom.... I think expanding to ASICS will be easier to digest than spending more money in more expensive GPUs.

5. I think we need to do a wait and see approach in coming weeks

[flminer]

Am finally making a little headway to having a nice little farm. Up to one 6x rx480, and two 6x 1080 ti rigs.  
All the help and advise that has been given is VERY much appreciated! Thank you all so very much!

Also have a little mutt rig with 2x 1080 ti, 1x 1070, and 1x 980 ti lol

nice   I will be shipping more card to you on july 5th so it will be bigger.

Am looking forward to it! Ordered one of those 12 gpu motherboards which should be here next week. Will be nice to have 12 per motherboard to lower per gpu cost.

So when are the new AMD gpu coming out? Thought they already were, but have not seen them on newegg.

[QuintLeo]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

[LoneRangir]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

Hynix manufactures HBM2, not Micron. Micron makes GDDR5, GDDR5X, and soon GDDR6

[flminer]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=radeon+vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1

And here I thought the price of the 1080 ti was over the top! Anyone hear anything about what the cost of the consumer edition is going to be?

[flminer]

On a side note




I listed my 1070 msi and gigabyte cards

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1999721.msg19912230#msg19912230
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Did you run these on eth? What coins and rates did you get with them? Have one 1070, but only had the mutt rig to put it in so didn't have the opportunity to separate it and do any testing. Thanks!

[philipma1957]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=radeon+vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1

And here I thought the price of the 1080 ti was over the top! Anyone hear anything about what the cost of the consumer edition is going to be?

does it do 1000 sols of zec at 200 watts?

if it does the price is not terrible.

[citronick]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=radeon+vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1

And here I thought the price of the 1080 ti was over the top! Anyone hear anything about what the cost of the consumer edition is going to be?

does it do 1000 sols of zec at 200 watts?

if it does the price is not terrible.

I suspect so Phil because HBM2 will be sweet for ETH and ZEC is not really memory hungry but you need massive compute to get ZEC to fly (like R9s).

If this VEGA is a souped-up R9-Fury X type card then it will be a monster card that can do ETH (fast memory) and ZEC (massive compute) very well.

But this 1k card is really a waste of money, IMHO... because we end up doing 3-4 card rigs because of PSU requirements. We are already doing that for 1080ti.

[philipma1957]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=radeon+vega&N=-1&isNodeId=1

And here I thought the price of the 1080 ti was over the top! Anyone hear anything about what the cost of the consumer edition is going to be?

does it do 1000 sols of zec at 200 watts?

if it does the price is not terrible.

I suspect so Phil because HBM2 will be sweet for ETH and ZEC is not really memory hungry but you need massive compute to get ZEC to fly (like R9s).

If this VEGA is a souped-up R9-Fury X type card then it will be a monster card that can do ETH (fast memory) and ZEC (massive compute) very well.

But this 1k card is really a waste of money, IMHO... because we end up doing 3-4 card rigs because of PSU requirements. We are already doing that for 1080ti.

works for some not others.

I have 20 mobos that can be populated  with 2 or 3 cards.
stability is great  with the smaller builds

a big flaw with 5,6,7,8 card builds is a shit card  can force you to keep other cards at lower settings  with some software/mining os.

so if you have 6 cards  and one rig  the entire rig may suffer as it all needs to be clocked lower due to some poor cards
if you have 2 biostar z170's  you can run one with 2 poor cards clock low and one with  4 cards clock high.

the deal  is that this is more true for a 50 card farm or smaller  as individual care of  17  three card rigs  is not hard.

if you have a 300 card farm  with 100 3 card rigs vs 50 6 card rigs  it is more work.

I have never past 52 cards  so small rigs = no worries.

[QuintLeo]

Frontier edition (the WORKSTATION initial Vega model) has been on Newegg for almost a week now.

 The CONSUMER Vega cards have been held up due to Micron having production issues with HBM2, per many rumors and reports - probably around another month, perhaps longer, depending on which rumor.

 I don't see VEGA being a major good ETH card series though, for the same reasons the Fury wasn't a monster ETH card - but they might do well on stuff like ZEC where the memory latency of HBM is less of an issue.

Hynix manufactures HBM2, not Micron. Micron makes GDDR5, GDDR5X, and soon GDDR6

 Oops, yeah I meant Hynix.

[QuintLeo]

I suspect so Phil because HBM2 will be sweet for ETH and ZEC is not really memory hungry but you need massive compute to get ZEC to fly (like R9s).

If this VEGA is a souped-up R9-Fury X type card then it will be a monster card that can do ETH (fast memory) and ZEC (massive compute) very well.

But this 1k card is really a waste of money, IMHO... because we end up doing 3-4 card rigs because of PSU requirements. We are already doing that for 1080ti.

 HBM2 will NOT be "sweet for ETH" as it has the same sort of memory latency issues as HBM. It will be better due to faster speed and SOMEWHAT lower latency, but not by a lot.

 The Vega is an offshoot of the Fury/FuryX/Nano arch, so it will probably perform like a much faster Fury series - how much faster will depend on the number of cores (Frontier has same core count as the FuryX and Nano, consumer versions will probably start at the same 4096 and go DOWN from there) and the clocks (Frontier is 50-60% HIGHER than the fastest of the Fury series) on the consumer cards.

 The Frontier Edition is intended to be a WORKSTATION card (ignore the folks that say it's not, AMD itself is stating that and the whole DESIGN screams "workstation" orientation like the WX series).
 This means it's going to tend to be clocked a bit slower than an comparable consumer card, for higher reliability, and will tend to have a cooling system designed for many cards in one rack mount case.
 Compare the WX 7100 to a consumer RX 480 for a specific example of how this works.

 I anticipate the high-end "consumer" Vega will be same cores, slightly higher clocks, and lower cost than the Frontier Edition - and it won't LOOK like a WX series card, but more like the RX series even in the "reference" design.
 Then the aftermarket cards will hit and push the clocks even higher with at least some having much better cooling solutions.

[QuintLeo]

I have to wonder when thread 5 is going to start.

 9-)

[LoneRangir]

I'm looking to sell 4 x RX470s.  Willing to split them up. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2002183.0

[philipma1957]

I have to wonder when thread 5 is going to start.

 9-)

I was thinking page 99.



I sold my  seven 1070s

I was going to buy all 1080 ti's with the sales.

I may get a few Amd vegas instead.

7 1070s were doing 2800  Sols at 700 watts

I think three Vegas will do 3000 sols at 600 watts

[citronick]

I have to wonder when thread 5 is going to start.

 9-)

I was thinking page 99.



I sold my  seven 1070s

I was going to buy all 1080 ti's with the sales.

I may get a few Amd vegas instead.

7 1070s were doing 2800  Sols at 700 watts

I think three Vegas will do 3000 sols at 600 watts

looking forward to your Vega review soon Phil

600watts for 3000sols is very good

One of my contacts doing 3D modelling and CAD/CAM stuff, is getting a DIY workstation with Vega and Ryzen, to replace his aging Dell T1700 workstation.