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July 09, 2023, 08:35:22 PM
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Onana situation will be completely different from that of Mendy at Chelsea, should his transfer to Man United be completed, because Mendy never flopped at Chelsea, it was due to a change in a coach and the coach preferred a goalkeeper that could play out from the back, and Mendy couldn't despite being the better goalkeeper in terms of saves, reflexes and goalkeeper awareness. Meanwhile Kepa could serve those coaches purpose, hence the reason for them keeping as the number 1 choice.
Onana on the other hand will be coming in as the number 1 choice for Ten Haag even if De Gea as stayed back, Onana will remain at the top of his form for years to come, and fits perfectly into Ten Haag's so I really don't foresee any potential problem here, except the Glazers decides to go astray again by sacking Ten Haag too soon, which seem quite unlikely as things currently stands.

You are absolutely correct; the Mendy situation at Chelsea and the Onana situation at Manchester United are different. 1. Mendy was never the solution at Chelsea long-term because he is only good at shot stopping; when the team struggled and style of play changed; he struggled.

2. For Onana, he has so much pressures on his shoulders; hopefully he is able to live up to the pressure. With the way De Gea was ousted out of Old Trafford, all eyes will be on Onana next season; he cannot afford to be short on confidence.
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July 09, 2023, 08:41:03 PM
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when a club legend like De Gea decides to up and leave. The guy's practically part of the furniture at United! But now, the spotlight is on Onana. He might have had a brilliant season, but Manchester United is a whole new ballgame. Can he step up to the plate? We'll have to wait and see.

De Gea's future, though, is anyone's guess. MLS seems to be the rumour of the day, and why not? Its turned into a second home for many footballing legends. Theres always Saudi Arabia too - if he fancies filling his pockets a little more before he hangs up his boots.
I guess the management just had to grant ETH's his wish but it's a very sad one for most united fans. David DeGea was a fan favourite, his departure hurts and I hope he gets a good club where he would be loved and respected. At this point I just don't want to say much, let it not seem as if I'm pessimistic, I just hope Onana hits the ground running quickly. Despite the way things ended with DeGea, he has raised the bar for goal keeping at Manchester United. There must be no room for unnecessary mistakes or blunders, because if such begin to happen it would speak bad of him as well as ETH.

In fact, we can trace why De Gea was eventually released by United as a free agent. In addition to the huge salary, United are in the process of overhauling their squad under Erik Ten Hag. after all, the coming and going of a player in a club will not make that club leave too. this is a common thing, even so with coaches and anyone who is engaged in the football industry.

Well, if we have to compare De Gea and Onana.
IMO, De Gea is one level above Onana, despite the dip in form this season. however, why Ten Hag was reluctant to continue using De Gea's services. because, Ten Hag has a system that is not so ideal with De Gea. it doesn't matter how they become the last bastion in their team, but rather the modern goalkeeper. therefore, Ten Hag wanted Onana as De Gea's replacement. Onana is quite swift, she is agile, and very nimble. However, De Gea is still more reliable. it's just that, the difference is that Onana is a modern goalkeeper who participates in building attacks. Onana, has it, and De Gea doesn't. referring to what was quoted by Romano, everyone was on alert since wednesday because Ten Hag only wanted Onana. the deal is expected to be done/sealed next week. So, let's see if Onana will move to Old Trafford.

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July 09, 2023, 08:59:10 PM
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It seems that it is not easy for Lukaku to stay at Inter in the new season. Chelsea are not willing to release Lukaku at a low price. Even Chelsea want a price of €45 million for Lukaku's permanent sale. Chelsea temporarily rejected Inter's offer. Even Juventus are also interested in Lukaku, then there is Al Hilal who offer €45 million plus €5 million in add-ons.

Source: https://football-italia.net/lukaku-chelsea-irritate-juventus-while-inter-continue-to-push/
If so, it can be said that Chelsea wants to release Lukaku to Al Hilal. With the right price, Chelsea can make a profit, at least it can cover the losses when bringing Lukaku back from Inter Milan to Stamford Bridge at a fairly expensive price. It seems that Juventus' presence in the hunt for Lukaku is interesting because Inter really want the striker, while Juve want to bring Lukaku to Turin as an option if Dusan Vlahovic really leaves.

I think Lukaku was pushed by the Chelsea management to move to Juventus and as a consequence Juve wanted to sell Vlahovic to them. If this is true, then Inter Milan will bite their fingers because they have lost Lukaku. It will be interesting for us to see how Lukaku's football career will go next season, after the pre-season tour is over and the transfer market will be closed there will usually be many surprises.

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July 09, 2023, 09:10:49 PM
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It seems that it is not easy for Lukaku to stay at Inter in the new season. Chelsea are not willing to release Lukaku at a low price. Even Chelsea want a price of €45 million for Lukaku's permanent sale. Chelsea temporarily rejected Inter's offer. Even Juventus are also interested in Lukaku, then there is Al Hilal who offer €45 million plus €5 million in add-ons.

Source: https://football-italia.net/lukaku-chelsea-irritate-juventus-while-inter-continue-to-push/
As reported by fabrizio romano where Chelsea is still opening opportunities for inter milan in the upcoming bid to raise his bid closer to what Chelsea wants. So for now Lukaku status is still awaiting a decision from Inter Milan on the second offer. If Inter Milan is able to make a fantastic offer, it is likely that Chelsea will accept their offer.

For Juventus they have not contacted Chelsea and this rumor seems to be just being exaggerated. I think Juventus will keep Vlahovic from leaving in this transfer window. So there's nothing really serious about Lukaku link with Juventus.

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July 09, 2023, 09:14:13 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.


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July 09, 2023, 09:28:20 PM
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Allegedly, Beşiktaş made a deal with Bakhtiyor Zaynutdinov from CSKA Moscow. I don't know this player at all. He was a 25-year-old midfielder. While there is a foreign players limit, I hope they take foreign players above a certain level. If there are Russian friends, I would be happy if they enlighten us.
However, according to the information I have just learned, if this transfer takes place, Zaynutdinov will play as a Turkish status, not as a foreign player. This is good news, then this transfer can be successful. Of course, we don't know the financial dimension of the business yet. He doesn't seem very offensive though, his goal and assist statistics are quite low. Still, the fact that he plays in many positions is a big advantage.

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July 09, 2023, 09:30:40 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.



It looks like a waste of time to me when they can invest around the same amount for a young striker in Europe. Maybe they do have their reasons. Kane can go for 3-5 more years and the fact that he's dieing to get his hands on an European trophy, He'll make the switch and put in the work. This reminds me about the time last year when Barcelona signed Lewandowski for around €45M. I said it was already too late since he had passed his prime but so far so good, it's going alright at Camp Nou.

I reckon this deal will be completed in the next few days. Let's see how it unfolds.

Edit: Anything above €80M is waste of money. They can wait 12 months and get him for free.

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July 09, 2023, 09:31:06 PM
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Bayern Munich's return proposal for €80m plus add-ons will this be rejected by Spurs again?
I hope there is some light in this deal because between the club and Harry Kane as we know they reached an agreement some time ago but Spurs rejected a €70m offer and are now waiting for a response from Spurs.

Already know that Spurs want a higher price, if Spurs still refuse with the current proposal and Bayern Munich don't resubmit because it's too expensive then Harry Kane's dream of a move will be dashed, but this is not a final decision I think there may still be a stage where more in the next few days.

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July 09, 2023, 09:33:36 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.
Not surprised though. English players are in most cases overpriced for €70M, seems normal in their League for such a player. I mean, look what Arsenal paid for Declan Rice,  Grin I am glad Real Madrid aren't really bothered at all to sign him despite selling off Benzema. They could have even stretched the price to, €100M because of the buyer involved.

In think, he can do well in both League, but he might have a good chance of Silverware at Bayern Munich

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He's a young top striker in Juventus in the last two seasons, that's he gained some popularity and many top teams want to sign him. If he's playing for Premier league team, his market value might reach at least €100M because European player always expensive.

I have no words to say for Chelsea, I think if there's rumor a team want to sign a player, Chelsea always joining the race lol.
Even before joining Juventus, Dusan Vlahovic was already a top striker. He was popular enough because he can score many goals, so it makes Juventus to sign him. Anyway, playing to EPL never guarantee his value to increase to €100M. If he chooses the wrong club, his career can be worse. So, it is possible for his value to decrease below than the current price. Instead of being €100M, his price can be €50M if he performed badly in EPL. It is the most competitive league in the world, it won't be easy to succeed in EPL.

Chelsea always tries to sign more top players, but we know that not many top players are probably interested in Chelsea. The current situation in Chelsea will make every top players be afraid to join.


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July 09, 2023, 09:50:08 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.



It looks like a waste of time to me when they can invest around the same amount for a young striker in Europe. Maybe they do have their reasons. Kane can go for 3-5 more years and the fact that he's dieing to get his hands on an European trophy, He'll make the switch and put in the work. This reminds me about the time last year when Barcelona signed Lewandowski for around €45M. I said it was already too late since he had passed his prime but so far so good, it's going alright at Camp Nou.

I reckon this deal will be completed in the next few days. Let's see how it unfolds.

Edit: Anything above €80M is waste of money. They can wait 12 months and get him for free.
Actually, if their performance picks up it won't be a problem, even though it is a big amount but of course they also want something certain for next season.
Kane has been tested enough and he will definitely be very capable of being a difference if Bayern really bring this player in the end.
Apart from the short time I think with his current age which is still 29 years he can still be given a long-term contract in 4 seasons or even 5 seasons and this is definitely worth it for Bayern.
They have been considering this for a few seasons now and are now intensifying. It will be interesting to see if Tottenham stick to their 100 million or Kane will be left alone this time with 90 million.

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July 09, 2023, 09:54:10 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.



70 million is the first offer that has been rejected while the 2nd offer is 80 million Bayern Munich is still waiting for Tottenham's response to this new offer, previously Tottenham set 100 million for anyone who wanted to bring Kane but it seems too high for players aged 29/30 years. I understand why Bayern Munich keeps chasing him because after Lewandowski left, nothing else to be relied upon in the attack line just look at Serge Gnabry as the second striker is only able to score 14 goals of course Munich was not satisfied with it. Harry Kane indeed headed for the old player but the quality is still above average, Compare with Haaland only 6 goals difference last season.

Harry Kane is known as the top player of England but he hasn't won any title with Tottenham, of course sad as one of the top players without the title when he approached retirement so he needs a new club to get a title. Indeed there is no guarantee that he gets a title with Munich but we know Munich dominates the Bundesliga at least it's not bad for him.

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July 09, 2023, 09:59:34 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.


Bayer Monaco or Bayern Munich?
I only know that Bayern Munich which wants to sign Harry Kane.
Their first bid was €60m, it was rejected by Tottenham because they want €100m at least.
The second bid is €70m, I'm not sure if Tottenham management is satisfied with this offer. I assume Tottenham set a minimum price around €85m-€90m, they want a big money from Harry Kane transfer.

I don't think it waste money, Harry Kane is a top striker and still perform well. It is just a bit overpriced, it is because Tottenham doesn't really want to sell Harry Kane, they actually prefer to keep him.


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July 09, 2023, 10:14:31 PM
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To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.
Kane can play at the very top level for at least another five years, i don't see how this is a waste of money. If you look around; how many strikers in the world can currently lace Kane's boots? The thing is, Bayern Munich are not going to sign Kane because it is very difficult to negotiate with Daniel Levy, he would want Bayern to pay at least £100 million, and the German champions would definitely not pay that. Kane has to leave Spurs if he is to have any chance of winning a trophy, if he is really interested in leaving, he'd force a move out of the club.
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July 09, 2023, 10:15:21 PM
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It seems that it is not easy for Lukaku to stay at Inter in the new season. Chelsea are not willing to release Lukaku at a low price. Even Chelsea want a price of €45 million for Lukaku's permanent sale. Chelsea temporarily rejected Inter's offer. Even Juventus are also interested in Lukaku, then there is Al Hilal who offer €45 million plus €5 million in add-ons.

Source: https://football-italia.net/lukaku-chelsea-irritate-juventus-while-inter-continue-to-push/

Chelsea does not want to release Lukaku for a lower fee because they are still calculating based on how much they spent to get him back from Inter. But most times things are not just followed squarely. We all understand that Chelsea and Lukaku may never worked together again until the career of Lukaku. So, why all these game of price? Allow Lukaku go and enjoy football elsewhere.

Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.


Bayer Monaco or Bayern Munich?

He meant Munich. Harry Kane is one of the most interesting names in this transfer window. The pointer was obviously in the side of Real Madrid but the pendulum has swung again. If the German side catches it, it is also fine. But what is not beautiful is Harry remaining in the Spurs.
If Spurs want to sell him so much high, how old is he and how much longer is his contract?

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July 09, 2023, 10:16:51 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.



It looks like a waste of time to me when they can invest around the same amount for a young striker in Europe. Maybe they do have their reasons. Kane can go for 3-5 more years and the fact that he's dieing to get his hands on an European trophy, He'll make the switch and put in the work. This reminds me about the time last year when Barcelona signed Lewandowski for around €45M. I said it was already too late since he had passed his prime but so far so good, it's going alright at Camp Nou.

I reckon this deal will be completed in the next few days. Let's see how it unfolds.

Edit: Anything above €80M is waste of money. They can wait 12 months and get him for free.

Saying that someone had passed him prime when he was the best striker in the Bundesliga with 41 goals in 20/21 and 35 goals in 21/22 is a tough statement. Tongue

Although I am also not a fan of signing strikers who are in their 30s. I think many clubs hope for miracles like we have seen with Benzema who became the ballon dor winner when he was 34 years old. But that is not normal and certainly nothing that can be expected from a striker. Harry Kane to keep going on that level for another five years is also very optimistic. Planning realistically is what's most important here and I think Kane will do well for three more years. He probably won't get a contract that is of a duration longer than that.

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July 09, 2023, 10:23:45 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.
I don't care that Bayern Munich will waste money on recruiting Harry Kane, because Kane is indeed a good quality sticker that is good enough to make him the next Lewandowski at Bayern Munich. Not €70 million, even €80 million has been posted by Bayern Munich in the second bid to Tottenham.

We'll see how Levy reacts to this crazy offer. Whether he can still be in his stance to peg €100m for a team looking to get harry kane. Or Levy will get carried away with €80 million and be prepared to lose Harry Kane in this transfer window. I think bayern munich is really ambitious to get harry kane.

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July 09, 2023, 10:24:11 PM
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Bayer Monaco is really going for Kane.
A second bid for 70m € will come in these days.

To me its just a waste of money for an almost 30years old player.



It looks like a waste of time to me when they can invest around the same amount for a young striker in Europe. Maybe they do have their reasons. Kane can go for 3-5 more years and the fact that he's dieing to get his hands on an European trophy, He'll make the switch and put in the work. This reminds me about the time last year when Barcelona signed Lewandowski for around €45M. I said it was already too late since he had passed his prime but so far so good, it's going alright at Camp Nou.

I reckon this deal will be completed in the next few days. Let's see how it unfolds.

Edit: Anything above €80M is waste of money. They can wait 12 months and get him for free.

Signing Kane for 70m is not a waste. Kane is exactly the kind of striker that Bayern needs. Bayern is always known to have a lethal striker. Their wings and midfield are solid, all that is missing now is a world class striker and Kane will fill that role perfectly. Kane can score and support the build up play of Bayern, not to mention that he's used to the quick transition paetter and fast counter attacking of Bayern Munich. Kane is among the top 5 best striker in the world right now, I think he's even among the top 3.
The problem is, Levy will rather lose Kane for free next season than sell him. I don't think they'll sell Kane this season.

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July 09, 2023, 10:40:51 PM
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I doubt Inter Milan will let Juventus take Lukaku from them. Chelsea will let the player go once they receive a good offer. Inter want to get him with low fees and maybe they will be obliged to increase their proposition since Juve entered the game too.

I think more attention to Lukaku than we should normally because I think he is an old player and for a player at this age paying lots of money can't be a long-term plan. I think Inter Milan can find even better options than Lukaku while they have to pay Chelsea lots of money for that, however, I agree and as you said I think Chelsea and Inter Milan both will not allow Lukaku to join Juventus.

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July 09, 2023, 10:48:49 PM
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70 million is the first offer that has been rejected while the 2nd offer is 80 million Bayern Munich is still waiting for Tottenham's response to this new offer, previously Tottenham set 100 million for anyone who wanted to bring Kane but it seems too high for players aged 29/30 years. I understand why Bayern Munich keeps chasing him because after Lewandowski left, nothing else to be relied upon in the attack line just look at Serge Gnabry as the second striker is only able to score 14 goals of course Munich was not satisfied with it. Harry Kane indeed headed for the old player but the quality is still above average, Compare with Haaland only 6 goals difference last season.
Despite the fact that Kane is still a fantastic striker, I think 100 million dollars is too much to pay a striker who is 29 years old. Since this is what happened when Manchester City attempted to sign him for the previous two seasons, I think Tottenham is paying a premium price for Kane because they don't want him to leave. Given that Bayer Munich now lacks a top striker, I think they will use every available means to get Kane, and if Bayern Munich is successful in doing so, I think Kane will perform as expected.


Its a sad state of affairs when a club legend like De Gea decides to up and leave. The guy's practically part of the furniture at United! But now, the spotlight is on Onana. He might have had a brilliant season, but Manchester United is a whole new ballgame. Can he step up to the plate? We'll have to wait and see.

Seriously, De Gea has helped Manchester United a lot, and I believe that it will never be matched by Manchester United with his achievements. But truly, Manchester United need to let De Gea leave and bring another great young goalkeeper to the club to make their dream come true, and I believe that is what Erik ten Hag has done by trying to bring Andre Onana to the Manchester united.Seriously, Andre Onana's performance last season was really super, and I may say it will do the same at Manchester United.

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