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July 14, 2023, 03:28:10 PM |
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I still don't understand why Arsenal are still wasting time to end this deal on Rice, is almost 3 weeks and yet the deal is still not signed. Is like Arsenal is being forced to get this player Rice, well is all the making of Manchester City, they made Arsenal to go for this player and spending £105m for a player they (City) know he won't do much for them, very funny though. I just wish this player would perform more than he did at West Ham. This deal is really annoying because at the end of the day he might be an injury prone player at Arsenal. Lets see how today and tomorrow will be like, but if the deal is not sealed yet then is a big mistake Arsenal are making.
If we pay attention, it's quite strange that the official announcement regarding Declan Rice has been slightly delayed and Arsenal have just officially announced Jurrien Timber, their new recruit after Declan Rice. Maybe I think there's some paperwork that should be double-checked and maybe there could be a few things that make things a bit slower and because of that we'll have to wait a bit longer to hear Declan Rice's official announcement. Apart from that, the cost of up to £ 105m has made Arsenal lose control and that is indeed due to competition with Manchester City. I don't think we can make it as planned, but in the transfer of players this is very normal.
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July 14, 2023, 03:29:12 PM |
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If we talk about positions then all of these players have at least one substitute, if not several ones apart from Mahrez. We know also that Mahrez didn't participate a lot in the previous season and was less effective comparing to two or three years ago. Obviously having many players leaving the club will destabilise it but Manchester City know already that a transition phase will occur especially after they won everything especially Champions League title ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Even so, Manchester City will not immediately become weak next season. Because Manchester City are very prepared for the transition phase they are currently experiencing, so there is still a possibility that Manchester City will continue to be strong next season, even though there might be a difference from last season when they won the championship. And in terms of substitute players, indeed it must still be there in order to anticipate unexpected things like you said that.
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July 14, 2023, 03:30:38 PM |
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I couldn't understand why Lens starting to sell their key players this summer because i mean Lois Openda is very important player for them and he has help Lens to through an fantastic season with finish at Champion League zone so in my opinion Lens should be hold this player especially Lois Openda is their top scorer with 21 goals on France league last season Although probably Lens will used the money from the sale of Openda to look for new players as the replacement of him but there is no guarantee those players will be able to performing well just like Openda and apparently Openda is not the only player who leave Lens because next player who possibly will leave is Seko Fofana that recently Fofana has been linked to Arabian club and for Leipzig indeed Lois Openda was buyed with high price even now he is recognized as the most expensive player ever bought by them but Openda is very talented player so the price is equal to his talent
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July 14, 2023, 03:43:33 PM |
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I have also read this rumor today and i have to say that i am not really sure, if this would be such a good transfer for Bayern Munich. Kyler Walker is 33 years old already and i generally don't really think that transfers of such "old" players are really that good for a team. I have also read that maybe Benjamin Pavard is going to Manchester City then it would basically an exchange of players between ManCity and Bayern Munich. If this really happens, then i would hope that Bayern would at least get 20 Million € or something on top from Manchester City because Pavard is only 27 years old and therefore his market value is way higher than the one of Kyle Walker.
That was not a rumor anymore. The verbal agreement already reached between walker and bayern. Manchester city has been to get pavard from bayern as a replacement for kyle walker. I thought that if both gonna be included in to the swap between bayern and manchester city. I do agree with what you have been saying above. Bayern gonna buy walker with cheap price if there will be an agreement to exchange walker for pavard. The final agreement has not been meet by both of clubs. I guess if so many people never though if bayern gonna buy walker from manchester city since walker has become a key player in manchester city to won treble winners last season. City takes advantage by getting pavard which is still young enough.
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July 14, 2023, 03:59:25 PM |
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I have also read this rumor today and i have to say that i am not really sure, if this would be such a good transfer for Bayern Munich. Kyler Walker is 33 years old already and i generally don't really think that transfers of such "old" players are really that good for a team. I have also read that maybe Benjamin Pavard is going to Manchester City then it would basically an exchange of players between ManCity and Bayern Munich. If this really happens, then i would hope that Bayern would at least get 20 Million € or something on top from Manchester City because Pavard is only 27 years old and therefore his market value is way higher than the one of Kyle Walker.
That was not a rumor anymore. The verbal agreement already reached between walker and bayern. Manchester city has been to get pavard from bayern as a replacement for kyle walker. I thought that if both gonna be included in to the swap between bayern and manchester city. I do agree with what you have been saying above. Bayern gonna buy walker with cheap price if there will be an agreement to exchange walker for pavard. The final agreement has not been meet by both of clubs. I guess if so many people never though if bayern gonna buy walker from manchester city since walker has become a key player in manchester city to won treble winners last season. City takes advantage by getting pavard which is still young enough. Bayern Munich isn't doing business but I'm just more concerned about the player's age ( I mean Kyle Walker ) 33 and almost having injuries that keeps him out of the first half of the season last campaign. That said, he's a top professional who can defend and at same time attack very well. I think he'll be a great part of Thomas Tuchels plans. Manchester City likewise with Benjamin Pavard is perf, infact every great player would love to work with Pep Guardiola. Benjamin Pavard has won both the FIFA World Cup and also the Champions League, so much balance he'll bring into Manchester City's defense line. A player that can both be at the heart of the defense and also playing right full back.
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I still don't understand why Arsenal are still wasting time to end this deal on Rice, is almost 3 weeks and yet the deal is still not signed. Is like Arsenal is being forced to get this player Rice, well is all the making of Manchester City, they made Arsenal to go for this player and spending £105m for a player they (City) know he won't do much for them, very funny though. I just wish this player would perform more than he did at West Ham. This deal is really annoying because at the end of the day he might be an injury prone player at Arsenal. Lets see how today and tomorrow will be like, but if the deal is not sealed yet then is a big mistake Arsenal are making.
I would say take a chill pill here. Both Timber and Rice are done deals. Maybe there are some processes that is making it take time more to finally announce the signings but both the signings are done deal. I don't think that any club can hijack the deal now. Timber signing was announced today so I am expecting Rice one to be announced soon also. But all will be done before the season kicks-off for sure.
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Fabinho is an important player for Liverpool, his experience and performance at the club has been highly acclaimed. I think it's likely that Liverpool will find it difficult to let Fabinho go, given that Fabinho still has a contract until 2026.
However, it's possible that Liverpool will let Fabinho go for reasons or factors in the offer submitted by Al-ittihad and that depends on the club's financial situation, because they need to arrange a plan for long term, and team needs.
It seems Fabinho is another target for the Saudi teams just like Henderson from Liverpool. We know both players are experienced and both players were important players for Liverpool but after selling both of these two players, Liverpool can want enough money to hire younger players and I'm sure that's what Klopp wants to do for the next season. But Fabinho is under contract with Liverpool until 2026 and with 42m and this can make him a better target than Henderson for the Saudi teams. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2F7ZL1H5fY%2FScreenshot-20230713-191718.png&t=665&c=IEDKdXEjM6OAXg) I don't really understand why the team seems to want Fabinho so much, I think they want to complete the line and strengthen their team. But, back to finances, if Al-Ittihad really makes a fantastic offer, it will really allow Fabinho to move for them, and I think Liverpool will be very welcome with this, considering that Liverpool could bring in another player who can replace Fabinho position.
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I still don't understand why Arsenal are still wasting time to end this deal on Rice, is almost 3 weeks and yet the deal is still not signed.
The deal has already been signed, and Declan Rice is now officially an Arsenal player since the two teams and the player both agreed on the deal. The only thing I think is delaying West Ham United from officially announcing the deal is because Arsenal lawyers are yet to do the proper signing and documentation, but I am very sure there will be no reverse in this deal. Is like Arsenal is being forced to get this player Rice, well is all the making of Manchester City, they made Arsenal to go for this player and spending £105m for a player they (City) know he won't do much for them, very funny though.
Arsenal were not forced to Sign Declan Rice; they had it in mind to go for the player since the January transfer window, but the player was not fully available for a move, which is why they attempted to sign Cassaido. After the season, irrespective of the speculation that Manchester City were interested in the player, Arsenal kept their focus and made sure they made the right decision in terms of the player's market value, and that was how they came to an agreement with West Ham. I just wish this player would perform more than he did at West Ham. This deal is really annoying because at the end of the day he might be an injury prone player at Arsenal. Lets see how today and tomorrow will be like, but if the deal is not sealed yet then is a big mistake Arsenal are making.
Declan Rice is already used to the Premier League style of play; I don't think he can be an injury-prone player because he has all the necessary talent and experience to play his role, and beside that, other players like Thomas Partey and Jorginho are to give him all the necessary support he needs to perform at his best.
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If we talk about positions then all of these players have at least one substitute, if not several ones apart from Mahrez. We know also that Mahrez didn't participate a lot in the previous season and was less effective comparing to two or three years ago. Obviously having many players leaving the club will destabilise it but Manchester City know already that a transition phase will occur especially after they won everything especially Champions League title ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Even so, Manchester City will not immediately become weak next season. Because Manchester City are very prepared for the transition phase they are currently experiencing, so there is still a possibility that Manchester City will continue to be strong next season, even though there might be a difference from last season when they won the championship. And in terms of substitute players, indeed it must still be there in order to anticipate unexpected things like you said that. I'm sure it won't be a problem if for example Mahrez really leaves in this transfer window, because Mahrez is also only focused on playing on the right wing. Therefore, of course Pep Guardiola will also adapt it to Manchester City gameplay which will be used later if, for example, Mahrez realy leaves. After all, at this moment also Manchester City has succeeded in signing in Kovacic and it seems that Manchester City are exploring the midfield for next season to be better after losing Gundogan. But regarding rumors of Mahrez departure, i personally still not entirely sure if Mahrez leaves at this moment, because Mahrez also is still under contract.
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Yes, in fact, Tottenham have already lost Kane since he himself wants to leave, so it's better to get money for him than nothing at all. And if you think cynically, then Tottenham is already at the bottom (8th place and no games in European competition) and things will not get worse for them if they try to change something. By selling Kane for 90 million, they can buy someone for 40-50 and hope for Hong Si Min and also for Richarlison to start playing.
Ahead of the start of next season's Premier League it seems that most players are trying to make several options for their careers. I see that Kane is really fed up and he can't lie to himself anymore by staying with Tottenham, he's starting to realize that as long as he's with Tottenham he can't get anything even the trophies he really wants. No matter how good the quality of his players, he will not be able to get anything if he is in the wrong team. Then for Tottenham itself I think Postecoglou realizes that Kane no longer wants to defend himself there anymore, and I hope that the Spurs management will make the decision to sell him as soon as possible if they don't want to suffer losses from Kane's departure. and then look for other alternatives using the funds from the sale of Kane like you said. Even so, Manchester City will not immediately become weak next season. Because Manchester City are very prepared for the transition phase they are currently experiencing, so there is still a possibility that Manchester City will continue to be strong next season, even though there might be a difference from last season when they won the championship. And in terms of substitute players, indeed it must still be there in order to anticipate unexpected things like you said that.
I think before Guardiola was willing to let go of some important players like Gundogan I think he has thought about all the consequences and maybe he already knows what he has to do for next season's competition. We all know that Manchester City won the Premier League last season and Guardiola certainly knows that all clubs, especially Arsenal, will not make it easy for Manchester City next season. Therefore, I think Guardiola has thought of something to anticipate the various threats they will face.
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I still don't understand why Arsenal are still wasting time to end this deal on Rice, is almost 3 weeks and yet the deal is still not signed.
The deal has already been signed, and Declan Rice is now officially an Arsenal player since the two teams and the player both agreed on the deal. The only thing I think is delaying West Ham United from officially announcing the deal is because Arsenal lawyers are yet to do the proper signing and documentation, but I am very sure there will be no reverse in this deal. Is like Arsenal is being forced to get this player Rice, well is all the making of Manchester City, they made Arsenal to go for this player and spending £105m for a player they (City) know he won't do much for them, very funny though.
Arsenal were not forced to Sign Declan Rice; they had it in mind to go for the player since the January transfer window, but the player was not fully available for a move, which is why they attempted to sign Cassaido. After the season, irrespective of the speculation that Manchester City were interested in the player, Arsenal kept their focus and made sure they made the right decision in terms of the player's market value, and that was how they came to an agreement with West Ham. I just wish this player would perform more than he did at West Ham. This deal is really annoying because at the end of the day he might be an injury prone player at Arsenal. Lets see how today and tomorrow will be like, but if the deal is not sealed yet then is a big mistake Arsenal are making.
Declan Rice is already used to the Premier League style of play; I don't think he can be an injury-prone player because he has all the necessary talent and experience to play his role, and beside that, other players like Thomas Partey and Jorginho are to give him all the necessary support he needs to perform at his best. Declan Rice is a very good player that everyone believes he will do well at Arsenal,I am an Arsenal fan,but I still don't know why I prefer Caicedo to Rice.I have watched to both players on YouTube,and I so much like the aggressive nature of Caicedo.Rice is aggressive,but I think the former is more defensive than the latter. Caicedo will really do well at Chelsea if that deal materialises.But in the other hand,Mikel Arteta can as well turn Rice into a world class player because he has all it takes to be one.And talking about injury,the player is not an injury prone player,and I don't think he will be kept on the bench through injury when he gets to Arsenal.
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I couldn't understand why Lens starting to sell their key players this summer because i mean Lois Openda is very important player for them and he has help Lens to through an fantastic season with finish at Champion League zone so in my opinion Lens should be hold this player especially Lois Openda is their top scorer with 21 goals on France league last season Although probably Lens will used the money from the sale of Openda to look for new players as the replacement of him but there is no guarantee those players will be able to performing well just like Openda and apparently Openda is not the only player who leave Lens because next player who possibly will leave is Seko Fofana that recently Fofana has been linked to Arabian club and for Leipzig indeed Lois Openda was buyed with high price even now he is recognized as the most expensive player ever bought by them but Openda is very talented player so the price is equal to his talent From Germany to French, it's confirmed now and Loïs Openda can have a good performance in Leipzig. however, the thing about this player and Leipzig is he is now the new record for Leipzig with 35m however I was not expecting to see Leipzig didn't hire a player at this price before. Openda can surely help his team in the champions league the next season. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2FhG3kN7MF%2FScreenshot-20230714-192446.png&t=665&c=G6jJLImFawD6uQ)
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you probably mean it the other way around ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) and the fact that leipzig was able to spend this record amount (€38 million) on LO can be inferred from the fact that they also have some big-name departures to report this summer. Dominik Szoboszlai for €70 million to fc liverpool, Christopher Nkunku for €60 million to fc chelsea and Josko Gvardiol will most likely move to english champions manchester city for ~€100 million
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July 14, 2023, 06:06:30 PM |
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If we talk about positions then all of these players have at least one substitute, if not several ones apart from Mahrez. We know also that Mahrez didn't participate a lot in the previous season and was less effective comparing to two or three years ago. Obviously having many players leaving the club will destabilise it but Manchester City know already that a transition phase will occur especially after they won everything especially Champions League title ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Even so, Manchester City will not immediately become weak next season. Because Manchester City are very prepared for the transition phase they are currently experiencing, so there is still a possibility that Manchester City will continue to be strong next season, even though there might be a difference from last season when they won the championship. And in terms of substitute players, indeed it must still be there in order to anticipate unexpected things like you said that. I think Manchester city will be aggressive after achieving the champions league title last season and ambitious with great passion to be able to get a second win in the champions league. Maybe there won't be too many new players to be recruited, but Manchester City's line-up is already very good and the strategy pattern doesn't need to be changed.
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Despite his age, Bonucci was playing very well for Juventus. It's a pity they didn't come close to signing a new contract with him. He could probably land a high paying contract with a Saudi Arabian team. There will be a lot of demand for the Saudi league this year, as they are currently buying the important names of Europe on high contracts. Maybe Bonucci has options to go to MLS. I personally believe that the Saudi League is going to be better compared to MLS. Currently, they are providing better salaries compared to the MLS. So if he is thinking about money, I think he should go to the Saudi League. But the problem is if he wants to stay relevant and actually wants everyone to remember him for a little more time. I think he will have to find a team that is playing in the European competition. Because I know that even though there are a lot of players going to the Saudi League, I think it will still take a little more time to get that Saudi League renowned as a genuinely competitive league. But at this age, it is not going to be a crime for him to go and choose money over career, to be honest. He is already 33. He does not have too much time left in his career, so it will actually be better for him if he chooses money at this moment.
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July 14, 2023, 06:43:00 PM |
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Fabinho is an important player for Liverpool, his experience and performance at the club has been highly acclaimed. I think it's likely that Liverpool will find it difficult to let Fabinho go, given that Fabinho still has a contract until 2026.
However, it's possible that Liverpool will let Fabinho go for reasons or factors in the offer submitted by Al-ittihad and that depends on the club's financial situation, because they need to arrange a plan for long term, and team needs.
It seems Fabinho is another target for the Saudi teams just like Henderson from Liverpool. We know both players are experienced and both players were important players for Liverpool but after selling both of these two players, Liverpool can want enough money to hire younger players and I'm sure that's what Klopp wants to do for the next season. But Fabinho is under contract with Liverpool until 2026 and with 42m and this can make him a better target than Henderson for the Saudi teams. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2F7ZL1H5fY%2FScreenshot-20230713-191718.png&t=665&c=IEDKdXEjM6OAXg) I don't really understand why the team seems to want Fabinho so much, I think they want to complete the line and strengthen their team. But, back to finances, if Al-Ittihad really makes a fantastic offer, it will really allow Fabinho to move for them, and I think Liverpool will be very welcome with this, considering that Liverpool could bring in another player who can replace Fabinho position. I'm not sure but I think Fabinho is the best option Al Ittihad can have, Al Ittihad got enough money to pay for the players they want but we also know Al Ittihad can't hire better and stronger players and maybe that's why they tried to hire Fabinho. However, Fabinho is not a bad player and for Saudi teams and Al Ittihad, this player is a lot.
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July 14, 2023, 06:43:53 PM |
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The Saudi League is quite likely to have many more stars coming from Europe compared to the MLS these days. Because the salary interval they have offered to such players so far has been really enormous. Even the least known player going there among the players who have so far is making a lot of money now. I don't think MLS teams would like to pay that much money to any such player that easy. They offer very high conditions to only special players like Messi and so on the most.
Hence in terms of general player quality yeah the Saudi League is or maybe has already reached a higher level than the MLS.
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July 14, 2023, 06:52:48 PM |
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I still don't understand why Arsenal are still wasting time to end this deal on Rice, is almost 3 weeks and yet the deal is still not signed. Is like Arsenal is being forced to get this player Rice, well is all the making of Manchester City, they made Arsenal to go for this player and spending £105m for a player they (City) know he won't do much for them, very funny though. I just wish this player would perform more than he did at West Ham. This deal is really annoying because at the end of the day he might be an injury prone player at Arsenal. Lets see how today and tomorrow will be like, but if the deal is not sealed yet then is a big mistake Arsenal are making.
I would say take a chill pill here. Both Timber and Rice are done deals. Maybe there are some processes that is making it take time more to finally announce the signings but both the signings are done deal. I don't think that any club can hijack the deal now. Timber signing was announced today so I am expecting Rice one to be announced soon also. But all will be done before the season kicks-off for sure. I am also quite certain that the deals are almost properly done. Maybe some paperwork are getting done right now. Arsenal will have to make sure that they are ready with the new players before the season actually starts. Otherwise, there can be problems. Arsenal is creating a really good team right now. They had performed really well in the last season. Just because of some inconsistency they were not able to win the English Premier League title. They are obviously going to try to fix that. I am also quite sure that no team is actually going to hijack any deal right now. So I think they are alright. I hope they will be able to rotate the players properly so that they don’t face any problems toward the end of the season.
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July 14, 2023, 06:53:46 PM |
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I'm sure it won't be a problem if for example Mahrez really leaves in this transfer window, because Mahrez is also only focused on playing on the right wing. Therefore, of course Pep Guardiola will also adapt it to Manchester City gameplay which will be used later if, for example, Mahrez realy leaves. After all, at this moment also Manchester City has succeeded in signing in Kovacic and it seems that Manchester City are exploring the midfield for next season to be better after losing Gundogan. But regarding rumors of Mahrez departure, i personally still not entirely sure if Mahrez leaves at this moment, because Mahrez also is still under contract.
Until now, Man City still looks normal in the hunt for new players in the transfer market, only Mateo Kovacic has just officially joined them so far. Regarding Riyad Mahrez, it looks like he will be retained by Guardiola considering the vital role of the winger from Al Jazair. If Pep has ambitions to defend the Champions League title next season then I think Mahrez must stay put for next season. Even though it is reported that the Sudi Pro League club (Al Ahli) are interested in him but Mahrez doesn't want him for next season. I think the best option for him is to stay until the end of his contract and go to Al Expert next season while enjoying the end of his professional career. It is reported that Man City has targeted 19-year-old winger Julio Enciso from Brighton & Hove Albion as a long-term option to be plotted to replace Mahrez or Bernardo Silva. It looks like there will be surprises in Man City's transfer this time if you see their movements are not being monitored by the media.
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July 14, 2023, 07:03:41 PM |
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As I understand it, Kane does not sign a contract extension even after he was offered top conditions (at the level of Haaland), so Tottenham risks simply losing him in a year without any compensation. As for the statistics, I don't think they matter to him - for example, Lewandowski left Bayern even though he had chances to surpass Müller and that would have been epic. After such a long career, the number of records and various statistical achievements is such that they mean almost nothing.
Yeah, Kane doesn't seem keen on extending his contract no matter what. This is going to be his last year at Tottenham so are they really ready to lose him for free? Because I don't believe that Tottenham would be okay with losing him like that while they can get a really good amount of money for his transfer fee. They need to let him go by easing things for Bayern Munich a little more. Bayern Munich offered €80m with add-ons the last as far as I know. Levy shouldn't resist for getting at least €100m. I think they can find a middle way at around €90m. Levy must be aware of the serious situation that they will lose him for free certainly. Tottenham don't need to depend on Kane. They can sign an average level but good scorer also. It is all about improving their team effort be more successful at the end of the day. There is not a need for Kane to extend his contract in Tottenham, he is still young and vibrant that has energy to play along side other teams that can assure his journey to win any cup and trophies but he has been the one that has been putting Tottenham on the map of leagues and at end of the day, they don't achieve much. Its better he remain a free agent without a remote control, he should decide and move to a new club that want him, the new contract of $400k they are offering him may be a trap. I think Bayern Munich offer is not bad at all, and been signed for $80m offer is not a bad deal, sometimes he just have to settle down for what is available because that is the only club that has been pushing to sign him and always open to discussion, I believe that if Bayern Munich is an English club, he would by now abandoned Tottenham.
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