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January 16, 2024, 04:50:40 AM
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Karim Benzema have two years contract left with Al Ittihad and he received €100 million per season as the most highest amount needed by Manchester United if want sign him. I think impossible United want to spent much money for transfer fees although Karim Benzema have agreement to reduce his payment salary.
But good news with Karim Benzema want to return to European team but he has one year half contract left with Al Ittihad, if can't reach agreement mutual contract with both side need waiting braveness team want to pay higher fees transfer for signing Karim Benzema. Have two weeks left before transfer window deadline and any teams interested for signing Karim Benzema have prepare right now and negotiation with fee transfer.
It's very funny and strange in my opinion if Manchester United is willing to pay a lot for Karim Benzema, will he be able to contribute well at United by contributing lots of goals? I quite doubt he will be able to do it and this is like a further step and it is frustrating for Manchester United to see their performance has not improved even though they have bought several players who were expected to bring real changes to this team but that has not happened, it is even rumored that Manchester United will sell some of the players are quite old but will instead bring in older players, as there is confusion within United management regarding building this team.
It means that manchester united has been running out of good solution and that's it. Im concerning the performance from manchester united. Hojlund was only scoring a few goals since he was coming. Manchester united needs a goal machine who can score as many goals as possible unlike hojlund./ It was a disaster for manchester united to pick him as starting line up. Im not doubting manchester united to take benzema as alternative solution for this. It doesn't mean manchester united needs to buy him permanently. The club can try to tell ittihad to take him as a loan.
This is a sense solution to fix the main problem that has been occurring in the manchester united. Ten hag is feeling so confuse to think what best solution for this. Sign benzema as a loan from ittihad was not something wrong.
I have heard that some clubs were also doing this thing as well.

Karim Benzema needs good support or passing for him to score goals and unfortunately that is not visible at Manchester United so he will be like a player who failed at Manchester United.
Benzema can try that first. You said that even when benzema has not yet played there. How can we know that the result if benzema was not going there? This is the main problem in manchester united. I meant that if united needs a new striker but it seems like that ten hag has no solution for this.
That's why the club was still trying so hard in finding the good solution to fix this problem. Im only putting my focus on to the benzema as a candidate to be a striker for manchester united. Some clubs were also targeting him too even though he was not young anymore.

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January 16, 2024, 04:53:35 AM
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It is difficult for Manchester United to level the deal of Benzema given by Al Ittihad. Furthermore, it does not work out either because Benzema is now old or not in a similar condition as his time with Real Madrid. However, there are signs that Benzema is dissatisfied in Saudi Arabia, and he may consider a shorter, more manageable deal to bring him back to Europe. In addition, Benzema already has a lot of money like Messi, he might think about small deals and stay out of the desert. With a bearable deal, Benzema stays appealing to any clubs in Europe. Chelsea is also in the news ready to talk with Benzema for a shorter deal.
Instead of spending time, energy and money to bring in Benzema from Al Ittihad who is no longer able to play optimally due to his increasing age. It would be better for Manchester United to devote their energy to finding players who are easier and more productive in scoring goals. Manchester United really needs a striker who is hungry for goals, his inconsistent performance and very blunt front line requires Management to think more rationally in transfer policy. Bringing in Benzema is not a solution to overcome the crisis that Manchester United is currently experiencing, he cannot be relied on any longer because of his increasing age.

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January 16, 2024, 05:21:50 AM
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Man Utd enquire about Barcelona star
Liverpool eyeing move for Newcastle star
Ajax believe that Jordan Henderson deal is close to completion

https://www.goal.com/en/news/live/transfer-news-and-rumours-live/blt1ccfda38eda06d5a

Those are some rumors that have appeared. Araujo has become the hottest rumor caused by he has been linked to the several EPL big clubs. I have heard that if manchester united was putting him as the main target and it seems like that the rumor about benzema was just a fake rumor.
Manchester united has been inquiring him and barcelona was ready in hearing manchester united's offer for him. Ronaldo araujo has become one of the important player owned by barcelona. He played that so well. Barcelona has been stating that the club was ready in hearing any offers that came for its players. It's caused by barcelona has responsibility to pay its debt. Barcelona is in financial trouble right now and selling araujo will be helping the club a lot to raise some money from selling the players.

Barcelona was always selling the players in big loss and the club needs to learn how to sell players properly without suffering huge loss. I think that is going to be one of most important step take by barcelona to sell him to the manchester united.
Manchester united was always monitoring him since last season and he has been showing massive improvements compared to the last season. Im not doubting that reason for manchester united to take him as a new co players. Araujo was a professionall football players.
he has so many experience in the football and this has become a positive value for him.

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January 16, 2024, 05:28:57 AM
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Source: https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1746976079145750976

Chelsea are starting to become active again in the transfer market this winter and this time they are trying to bring in an experienced striker and Chelsea's efforts are to be able to get one of these players between Benzema and Firmino. I think Chelsea's steps are quite right by recruiting a good striker with undoubted experience and as a finisher in front of goal, Benzema or Firmino should be a solution to Chelsea's difficulties in scoring goals.

We know that the current options at Chelsea are not very good and most of them are not very consistent. Let's see if Chelsea can bring in one of them and if Chelsea succeed then they will probably be able to finish in a better position this season and can reduce the risk of falling to the bottom of the table again like the previous season.

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January 16, 2024, 06:04:28 AM
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Chelsea are starting to become active again in the transfer market this winter and this time they are trying to bring in an experienced striker and Chelsea's efforts are to be able to get one of these players between Benzema and Firmino. I think Chelsea's steps are quite right by recruiting a good striker with undoubted experience and as a finisher in front of goal, Benzema or Firmino should be a solution to Chelsea's difficulties in scoring goals.

We know that the current options at Chelsea are not very good and most of them are not very consistent. Let's see if Chelsea can bring in one of them and if Chelsea succeed then they will probably be able to finish in a better position this season and can reduce the risk of falling to the bottom of the table again like the previous season.
Aren't they stupid?

Both Benzema and Firmino were from top clubs in their respective leagues, if both of the clubs didn't want to extend their contracts, it means their career is over. They're not good as they used to be, they won't survive in Premier League.

Chelsea need to change their scouters, they can't hunt a young potential player because they always looking for popular player.

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January 16, 2024, 07:02:43 AM
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Chelsea are starting to become active again in the transfer market this winter and this time they are trying to bring in an experienced striker and Chelsea's efforts are to be able to get one of these players between Benzema and Firmino. I think Chelsea's steps are quite right by recruiting a good striker with undoubted experience and as a finisher in front of goal, Benzema or Firmino should be a solution to Chelsea's difficulties in scoring goals.
Incapability of pochettino to get a good striker makes chelsea think that try to take those guys as loans from saudi pro league club to be an alternative answer in this case. I don't know what party that has initiated this but it loosk so dumb.
Chelsea has been also making controversial transfer like buy young inexperienced players with non sense amounts of money. The club seems to try to repeat it again by trying to take old strikers with very high salary to the club which is very dumb.
I have no word to describe how stupid the scouting team is if chelsea will be getting one of them. Im not hating chelsea but i hate how the management was making controversial decision like this.
It's bullshit to see this rumor. I would like to call that pochettino as a stupid coach if chelsea will be really opening talk to get them all from saudi pro league. There's nothing wrong with it but this is pure gambling not only with their performance but with their age as well.

We know that the current options at Chelsea are not very good and most of them are not very consistent. Let's see if Chelsea can bring in one of them and if Chelsea succeed then they will probably be able to finish in a better position this season and can reduce the risk of falling to the bottom of the table again like the previous season.
That's pochettino's mistake to gambling on the young player like those guys. Jack, broja? These guys were flop. Nkuku was also injury prone. Chelsea needs to buy the new striker but not like this. This rumor was only showing that if chelsea prefers to gambling by taking those old strikers as loan from saudi pro league club but i think it can happen consider chelsea has a very strong affiliation to the saudi investors. Let's waiting for the further confirmation from chelse regarding this and im sure pochettino will make a confirmation about this.

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Both Benzema and Firmino were from top clubs in their respective leagues, if both of the clubs didn't want to extend their contracts, it means their career is over. They're not good as they used to be, they won't survive in Premier League.
I agree with you that Benzama and Firmino may be past their prime. And to return to play for teams in top championships like the Premier League is quite difficult. However, there are quite a few clubs in the lower leagues that still want them in their squad if they are willing to accept lower salaries.
For example, playing in America, the culture and lifestyle are not too different from Arabs, which can help them easily adapt, which is not a bad choice. Recently, Los Angeles FC offered Karim Benzema a value of 10 million USD/season
They say time is money but in Asia football, alot of things go wrong because the minds of the players have change and these players have transformed to be only competitive in matches and they're playing for the money which is now obvious.There's absolutely no comparison between European and Saudi Arabia League football, there's a big difference. There are players that have made wrony moves and its affecting them currently, what was on the mind of Karim Benzema when he decided to make moved to the Saudi Arabia League? We all know how boring and uncompetitive the league can be when we have players that are not ready to put in their best other than putting money.
I think the Arabs spend money to recruit superstars to their league just to burnish their names on the international stage rather than develop their country's football. Simply put, they want to promote through football, this is the best way to promote.
As for the players, this is a great choice to have more money before retiring. This is a trade-off, and for some players whose passion for playing at the highest level has not ended like Bezama, Herderson or Firmino, they feel uncomfortable not having the joy of playing football when competing in this tournament.
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January 16, 2024, 07:42:31 AM
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I found some interesting rumours for Manchester United recently apparently they will be very active this winter and here is below the news

Defensive lines is being an Ten Hag concern for this January because Manchester United have not much players on this position esepecially some of defender players were got injured so Ten Hag feel Manchestet United have to bought at least 1 centre back and reported Manchester United has showing their interest to Lens player Facundo Medina it says Ten Hag is really likes with Medina game of style and he feel this player will be suitable to played as centre back moreover the price tag for Medina is not espensive and if Manchester United serious want to bought him then they have to spend at least 25 millions

Ten Hag feel besides gets new defender players Manchester United have to bought at least one winger this January and this because Manchester United lost Sancho and Facundo Pellistri which this player was not into his plan for next season and Ten Hag want Crystal Palace player Michael Olise this because since defend Crystal Palace Michael Olise has been showing impressive performance so Ten Hag is really impress to him and Manchester United has a plan to swap Michael Olise to Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Manchester United is very confident Crystal Palace will accept they offers but they have to compete with Liverpool and Brighton because reported these teams also showing their interest to Olise

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January 16, 2024, 07:50:17 AM
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Chelsea are starting to become active again in the transfer market this winter and this time they are trying to bring in an experienced striker and Chelsea's efforts are to be able to get one of these players between Benzema and Firmino. I think Chelsea's steps are quite right by recruiting a good striker with undoubted experience and as a finisher in front of goal, Benzema or Firmino should be a solution to Chelsea's difficulties in scoring goals.

We know that the current options at Chelsea are not very good and most of them are not very consistent. Let's see if Chelsea can bring in one of them and if Chelsea succeed then they will probably be able to finish in a better position this season and can reduce the risk of falling to the bottom of the table again like the previous season.
Aren't they stupid?

Both Benzema and Firmino were from top clubs in their respective leagues, if both of the clubs didn't want to extend their contracts, it means their career is over. They're not good as they used to be, they won't survive in Premier League.

Chelsea need to change their scouters, they can't hunt a young potential player because they always looking for popular player.

In case of Firmino I think it was him who wanted to leave or not extend his contract and I think he would still have the quality to play on a good level for two years, but Benzema would never be worth any money in the Premier League. He can't even fulfill the expectations in the Saudi League. But it would be scandalous if Chelsea now repeats the same mistakes for the third time in a row and buy players that can't add quality to the team. I don't know how many transfer windows and hundreds of millions they now misspent, but it is time for them to finally do the right things.
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January 16, 2024, 09:49:16 AM
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It is impossible for Manchester United to be willing to pay a high price for a player who is already 36 years old, he can no longer maintain his performance like he is still playing for Real Madrid because he is getting older. The Premier League relies more on strength and speed, Benzema is no longer able to run as fast as before and his strength is also decreasing due to age. Bringing in Benzema with an expensive dowry was a blunder by Manchester United because previously they had parted ways with players who were considered old.
Manchester Utd must think carefully if they want to buy Karim Benzema at a high price because this player is no longer able to play in the EPL considering that he is no longer young and most likely his stamina is not as strong before when he was at Madrid. However, it seems that Man Utd is not the only one interested in bringing in Benzema because PSG also intends to return Benzema to the European league so this will be hot transfer news if that really happens, we'll see which team succeeds in bringing in Madrid's mainstay player, will the team that brought him in not regret that Benzema's transfer fee is very expensive considering that he cannot be used as a long-term investment for the team.



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January 16, 2024, 10:26:13 AM
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It’s been confirmed that José Mourinho and his coaching staff will leave As Roma with immediate effect. I have asked myself what happened? Because he was perfect for them, after winning them their first European trophy and also their first-ever trophy in like 40yrs.  feel so many things have gone wrong with him and the club. He's been red carded 2/3 times this season already. So many shitty behaviour on the touch line this season. Poor results too.
The recent defeat was another indication of things were going to go wrong for Mourinho in the club. I think there was a time that he made claims that his future at the club could soon be up, while other issues also caused him to suggest fans believe he wasn’t going to be long at the club.

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January 16, 2024, 10:38:01 AM
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Karim Benzema have two years contract left with Al Ittihad and he received €100 million per season as the most highest amount needed by Manchester United if want sign him. I think impossible United want to spent much money for transfer fees although Karim Benzema have agreement to reduce his payment salary.
But good news with Karim Benzema want to return to European team but he has one year half contract left with Al Ittihad, if can't reach agreement mutual contract with both side need waiting braveness team want to pay higher fees transfer for signing Karim Benzema. Have two weeks left before transfer window deadline and any teams interested for signing Karim Benzema have prepare right now and negotiation with fee transfer.
I no longer trust the policy and decision-makers of Manchester United. Over the time this set of decision makers who call themselves the management have made so much mistakes that were very detrimental to the growth of Manchester United. Since after the father and coach of Manchester United Sir Alex Ferguson departed the club, Manchester United has been a shadow of its own. And all this while we have blamed the failure of Manchester United to the coaches, but with the recent activities going on in the club, I am well convinced that the problem of Manchester United is more of the management than the coaches.

It is time that Manchester United should audit their scout department. For so many years this men in that department have refused to give Manchester United a befitting transfer business. How can you be trying to build a club with old men like casemiro and benzema. Are you now telling me that Real Madrid that is sending them away is foolish? If you take a look at the Real Madrid current squad you will see the young players who are moving the word of football do you want us in the club. Vinicius junior actually has a lot of years to spend in Real Madrid. How about the likes of Rodrigo, Camavinga, Jude Bellingham and others. Those guys are the present and the future while Manchester United is signing the past.

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January 16, 2024, 10:51:53 AM
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It is difficult for Manchester United to level the deal of Benzema given by Al Ittihad. Furthermore, it does not work out either because Benzema is now old or not in a similar condition as his time with Real Madrid. However, there are signs that Benzema is dissatisfied in Saudi Arabia, and he may consider a shorter, more manageable deal to bring him back to Europe. In addition, Benzema already has a lot of money like Messi, he might think about small deals and stay out of the desert. With a bearable deal, Benzema stays appealing to any clubs in Europe. Chelsea is also in the news ready to talk with Benzema for a shorter deal.
Instead of spending time, energy and money to bring in Benzema from Al Ittihad who is no longer able to play optimally due to his increasing age. It would be better for Manchester United to devote their energy to finding players who are easier and more productive in scoring goals. Manchester United really needs a striker who is hungry for goals, his inconsistent performance and very blunt front line requires Management to think more rationally in transfer policy. Bringing in Benzema is not a solution to overcome the crisis that Manchester United is currently experiencing, he cannot be relied on any longer because of his increasing age.
I agree with you that bringing in Benzema is not the right solution for Manchester United to overcome their front line crisis. Even though he is no longer young, it is difficult for Benzema to appear competitive, let alone playing in the Premier League, which is known to be very draining. It is true that in this second transfer window it is very difficult to buy quality players, but at least Manchester United might be able to borrow several productive strikers with the option to make them permanent at the end of the season.

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January 16, 2024, 12:02:32 PM
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Chelsea are starting to become active again in the transfer market this winter and this time they are trying to bring in an experienced striker and Chelsea's efforts are to be able to get one of these players between Benzema and Firmino. I think Chelsea's steps are quite right by recruiting a good striker with undoubted experience and as a finisher in front of goal, Benzema or Firmino should be a solution to Chelsea's difficulties in scoring goals.

We know that the current options at Chelsea are not very good and most of them are not very consistent. Let's see if Chelsea can bring in one of them and if Chelsea succeed then they will probably be able to finish in a better position this season and can reduce the risk of falling to the bottom of the table again like the previous season.
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Both Benzema and Firmino were from top clubs in their respective leagues, if both of the clubs didn't want to extend their contracts, it means their career is over. They're not good as they used to be, they won't survive in Premier League.

Chelsea need to change their scouters, they can't hunt a young potential player because they always looking for popular player.
Actually, this is just a loan transfer and it looks like Chelsea only needs him until the end of this season. So I think it's still quite reasonable and the possibility of an offer from Chelsea is not too bad for both of them. Moreover, a few days ago there were rumors that Benzema was starting to feel uncomfortable in the Saudi league at the moment, so if he came to the EPL it could certainly be a new challenge for him.

Chelsea will definitely still be thinking about their main striker next season and it must be a great striker at a younger age. Currently, Chelsea seems to have no choice, especially seeing Nicolas Jackson, who is sometimes erratic, which also makes it increasingly difficult for Chelsea to score goals. Other players such as Cole Palmer and Nkunku can actually still be mainstays for scoring goals but the striker position is very important at the moment.

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January 16, 2024, 12:22:48 PM
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I agree with you that bringing in Benzema is not the right solution for Manchester United to overcome their front line crisis. Even though he is no longer young, it is difficult for Benzema to appear competitive, let alone playing in the Premier League, which is known to be very draining. It is true that in this second transfer window it is very difficult to buy quality players, but at least Manchester United might be able to borrow several productive strikers with the option to make them permanent at the end of the season.

Man United's transfer policy is unlikely to include Benzema in the transfer plan. His age and large salary do not seem to have much advantage in the short or long term. I'm very happy with this decision because that's what I've been thinking since the beginning of the Benzema transfer rumors. It seems that Man United can't transfer freely due to FFP rules and they also learned from last season with Sabitzer and Wout Weghorst. They were both successful loan players last season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/karim-benzema-manutd-saudi-transfer-31888009

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January 16, 2024, 12:36:26 PM
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I feel like he could have won that at PSG as well if he was that good enough, he wants to go to a team that could already win without him, so far in the past 6 or so years Real won 4 times, not sure if it was six or seven, but they won a lot and they have built a great young squad as well.

So what Mbappe wants is not to go to Real Madrid and help them win, what he wants is to go to a team that would already win, and just be there when they do. He could stay at the bunch and they would still win it, I am not saying they are going to, but with this squad and players? I am pretty sure that they are going to win one eventually anyway, and that is without Mbappe, if you add Mbappe then he will get one thanks to other players there too. That's just what he wants, an easy title.
PSG has money to create amazing team. They had Messi, Neymar, Mbappe, one of the best trio but they lacked good midfielders, they make choices that benefit their marketing and not the actual strength of the team. I think it's not only that Mbappe didn't win champions league in PSG because he is not good enough, the problem lies in their management.

Actually, you are true, Real Madrid has such an amazing team that they don't really need Mbappe to win. Also, I agree with you when you say that Mbappe wants an easy title but I still think that it will be a waste of time for him to stay in PSG. There are tons of benefits that he gets besides easy titles in Real Madrid, he is a very talented guy and the competition in La League and Ancelotti as a coach, will help him to move on another level.

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January 16, 2024, 12:36:42 PM
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Benzema to Chelsea could make sense, he is still not "that" old and he could help them for 1.5 years, or even 6 months if he wants to. That way everyone wins, Chelsea gets a striker they need, and Benzema gets out of the situation he is in right now. That should be an important situation for him because it looks like he is not going to be all that happy where he is right now and I believe that he is going to end up with something that has to change on the long run.

I know that we are not going to end up with something all that much, we are going to end up with a situation that would benefit everyone all the while better. I know that we can see Benzema struggling there too, but it looks like it would be worth a try.

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January 16, 2024, 12:45:53 PM
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Man United's transfer policy is unlikely to include Benzema in the transfer plan. His age and large salary do not seem to have much advantage in the short or long term. I'm very happy with this decision because that's what I've been thinking since the beginning of the Benzema transfer rumors. It seems that Man United can't transfer freely due to FFP rules and they also learned from last season with Sabitzer and Wout Weghorst. They were both successful loan players last season.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/karim-benzema-manutd-saudi-transfer-31888009
Nah both Sabitzer and Weghorst weren't successful, Manchester United should have extend their contracts if they're successful. There's no reason to include Benzema into the squad, they have Rashford, Hojlund and Martial, more than enough if one of them is injured.

Manchester United need to search new center back player since they're don't have good defenders.

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January 16, 2024, 12:49:01 PM
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Chelsea are starting to become active again in the transfer market this winter and this time they are trying to bring in an experienced striker and Chelsea's efforts are to be able to get one of these players between Benzema and Firmino. I think Chelsea's steps are quite right by recruiting a good striker with undoubted experience and as a finisher in front of goal, Benzema or Firmino should be a solution to Chelsea's difficulties in scoring goals.

We know that the current options at Chelsea are not very good and most of them are not very consistent. Let's see if Chelsea can bring in one of them and if Chelsea succeed then they will probably be able to finish in a better position this season and can reduce the risk of falling to the bottom of the table again like the previous season.
Aren't they stupid?

Both Benzema and Firmino were from top clubs in their respective leagues, if both of the clubs didn't want to extend their contracts, it means their career is over. They're not good as they used to be, they won't survive in Premier League.

Chelsea need to change their scouters, they can't hunt a young potential player because they always looking for popular player.

In case of Firmino I think it was him who wanted to leave or not extend his contract and I think he would still have the quality to play on a good level for two years, but Benzema would never be worth any money in the Premier League. He can't even fulfill the expectations in the Saudi League. But it would be scandalous if Chelsea now repeats the same mistakes for the third time in a row and buy players that can't add quality to the team. I don't know how many transfer windows and hundreds of millions they now misspent, but it is time for them to finally do the right things.

Firmino was not feeling good anymore to play in saudi pro league. He was feeling the same thing like his team mate in liverpool, henderson. There's no something wrong with it. Chelsea may potentially to hire one of them as a loan and it will not cost the club a lot.
Im only doubting ittihad to let him leave from the club since benzema was an important thing. He has been involved in the latest conflict against the management but it's not also denying the fact that if benzema was one of star players owned by saudi pro league this time.
Chelsea will be obviously gambling when the club will be realizing that idea to bring benzema from al ittihad to the chelsea. I can't even believe it and i also try to ask myself who the fuck is initiating this idea and told pochettino about that.
Even thought this probably a rumor but chelsea is possible to taking benzema as a loan from al ittihad. There have been many complaints regarding how benzema was deactivated his instagram account and many speculations are appearing.

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January 16, 2024, 01:40:18 PM
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I agree with you that bringing in Benzema is not the right solution for Manchester United to overcome their front line crisis. Even though he is no longer young, it is difficult for Benzema to appear competitive, let alone playing in the Premier League, which is known to be very draining. It is true that in this second transfer window it is very difficult to buy quality players, but at least Manchester United might be able to borrow several productive strikers with the option to make them permanent at the end of the season.
Looking at the quality of Manchester United play, they are actually not experiencing a crisis in their front line players and of course what they really need is defender who can be relied on to block the opposing team attacks.
Just look at against Wigan in the FA Cup and against Tottenham in the Premier League, Manchester United managed to score a goal and of course it would be much better if Ten Hag brought in a player in the defender position.
Maybe loan option for Benzema wouldn't cost as much as buyout but it would just be waste of budget and Manchester United would still have a weak defensive line.
If they can have strong defensive line then there is big possibility that losses can be minimized and of course the strength of their front line is still worthy enough to score goals and win.

But who knows what the coach was actually thinking that he had the option to bring in Benzema.
I sure that Benzema arrival will not change the situation and Benzema arrival will also become an uncomfortable topic of conversation.

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