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August 24, 2024, 04:42:55 PM
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I don't see anything surprising about Lukaku, even Osimhen is much better than him. Statistics for just 1 season prove that Lukaku goal productivity is only 13 goals from 32 matches and that is below Osimhen who collected 15 goals from 25 matches. However, Napoli still insists on releasing the player who last season contributed to the club's achievements which managed to contribute the Serie A trophy. All of that is because Conte doesn't like Osimhen and Conte will not include him in the squad even if he stays for 1 season. There is no way out for Osimhen other than forcing Napoli to release him. In Serie A, a club like Napoli has lost its chances, so it is not surprising that at the end of the season Napoli can only finish in 10th.

Rumors circulating that Osimhen really wants to leave Napoli in this summer's transfer window, he has also reportedly informed the club's manager. In addition, several clubs are indeed interested in using his services. It's just that the problem is the price that Napoli has set, so that one by one the clubs that want his services do not want to pay the release clause of this Napoli striker. Maybe that's the reason Conte wants to bring in Lukaku, because Osimhen no longer wants to play with Napoli. The relevant reason for Conte is that he doesn't like to involve players who really want to leave. Honestly, I'm not sure Lukaku will shine with Napoli, but Conte wants him. Romano reported that Chelsea and Napoli are continuing the formal steps for all the documents signed for the Romelu Kulaku agreement. Maybe it's just a matter of time, until Lukaku finally joins Napoli. Osimhen's story has faded a little in a few days, but the rumors I read are that Chelsea and Napoli have made a separate agreement between Osimhen and Lukaku. We'll see if the Osimhen drama will end. Or, in the end, Osimhen will not join any club and stay at Napoli.
It Isn't making any sense to continuing in keeping a player whose interest and mind is no longer with the team, and at this point, I believe coach Conte must have realised this. Therefore,  looking for an alternative or a replacement player in the name of Lukaku left him with no option, reason being that eventually they come to realizing that keeping the young player in the club in disguise with their high transfer fees won't benefit the club much, and if at the end Osimhen remained at the club this season.

 
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August 24, 2024, 06:57:36 PM
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Manchester United have brought in a young player from Mali named Sékou Koné, aged 17 and so far has no other track record other than playing for the Mali U-17 national team, playing as a midfielder and his price is only £1 million. Maybe he will be used as a young talent by Erik Ten Hag, there is nothing wrong because everything needs a process but for now if he is immediately played in the EPL competition this season then there is no guarantee that he can steal the attention. Let's just wait and see what kind of plan Erik Ten Hag wants to show.
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Hmm we can't track this player and we don't know which position he plays, but one thing I understand is that Manchester United are trying to invest in these young players even though previously we knew Manchester United was not a typical team like that they prefer to bring in players who are ready to compete and if in the end this investment fails I don't think it's a problem because they only spent 1 million when they brought him in, yeah at least it hasn't affected the team's finances even though they have spent 122 million on defense.
It seems that Manchester United are still aggressive in bringing in players, so far they have spent 164 million in the transfer window and it is estimated that Manchester United will spend more than 200 million for this season or the same as the last 2 seasons. For this season their focus is still on defense at least 4 of the total new players are in the defensive area.

This kid is a very interesting player and for an 18 year old, he plays very well. I think Manchester United made the right decision by bringing him in. Seems like Ten Hag is interested in working with younger players as he once did with Ajax and got a good amount of success. I hope that success comes soon enough though. Because if he is unable to bring in good results with Manchester United very soon, he is not going to be the coach of Manchester United in the next season for sure.

By the way, I hope Manchester United is able to nurture this kid properly. He definitely has talent.

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August 24, 2024, 07:33:22 PM
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I don't see anything surprising about Lukaku, even Osimhen is much better than him. Statistics for just 1 season prove that Lukaku goal productivity is only 13 goals from 32 matches and that is below Osimhen who collected 15 goals from 25 matches. However, Napoli still insists on releasing the player who last season contributed to the club's achievements which managed to contribute the Serie A trophy. All of that is because Conte doesn't like Osimhen and Conte will not include him in the squad even if he stays for 1 season. There is no way out for Osimhen other than forcing Napoli to release him. In Serie A, a club like Napoli has lost its chances, so it is not surprising that at the end of the season Napoli can only finish in 10th.

The season Napoli won the league there were rumors about Osimhen's transfer fee of 130 million euros. Napoli didn't have a very successful season last season. Naturally, Osimhen's transfer fee dropped a bit according to the rumors. Napoli management will want to get as much revenue as possible from this transfer to avoid further losses. This is my observation. Also, Lukaku might be a good alternative if Osimhen leaves the team. But I think the 30 + 15 million euros paid for him is a high price. Because Lukaku has not been consistent throughout his career. I don't think it's right to pay 30 million euros for such a player.

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August 24, 2024, 07:39:44 PM
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This kid is a very interesting player and for an 18 year old, he plays very well. I think Manchester United made the right decision by bringing him in. Seems like Ten Hag is interested in working with younger players as he once did with Ajax and got a good amount of success. I hope that success comes soon enough though. Because if he is unable to bring in good results with Manchester United very soon, he is not going to be the coach of Manchester United in the next season for sure.

By the way, I hope Manchester United is able to nurture this kid properly. He definitely has talent.

He is defensive midfielder a position which Manchester United have lacked for years now so it is understandable why they’ve gone for him. He did well in the under 21 tournament and he caught the eyes of Manchester United but people need to understand that he is not going to be integrated into the first team immediately but rather he will play for the under 21, he only has the opportunity of training with first team players just obi Martins and if they perform well they will be integrated into the first team faster than the regular youth players.

In as much as I will like to give credit to Ten Hag for nurturing them young players I think the new Manchester United board is the ones on this new moves, they have been looking at the prospect of making their own next big thing like Mainoo and Gernacho instead of buying them and it is a good move but requires patience, I hope the fans and the club can actually offer them that

It Isn't making any sense to continuing in keeping a player whose interest and mind is no longer with the team, and at this point, I believe coach Conte must have realised this. Therefore,  looking for an alternative or a replacement player in the name of Lukaku left him with no option, reason being that eventually they come to realizing that keeping the young player in the club in disguise with their high transfer fees won't benefit the club much, and if at the end Osimhen remained at the club this season.

I think we are misunderstanding this, because it was actually the manager Conte that was responsible for this whole mess, he wanted the Osimhen out and wants Lukaku who he has worked with in the past, there is no problem with that but they aren’t handling it the right way. The valuation of the player is just too much and no club will want to pay that much now. If they are desperate they should reduce the amount for him and they might get him sold











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August 24, 2024, 08:38:06 PM
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Juventus is still talking with Manchester United for a move for  Jadon Sancho.
The only way for Sancho could move to Italy is on a loan with probably a part of the salary paid from Manchester. IMHO.
Napoli wants more player and they AIM for Scott McTominay
Arsenal giving up on Nico Williams
Southampton is looking for Aaron Ramsdale.

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August 24, 2024, 08:53:59 PM
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Osimhen most likely will still stay much longer in the Napoli. His club is not keen on releasing him to another club, and they still want a very high price for him, despite the decline of Osimhen's performance. And it must be noted that no one is gonna buy Osimhen from Napoli if they're still asking for more than 100 millions.

Until Napoli realizes it, and decreases Osimhen's asking price, there will be no offer to come for him. Also, PSG has chosen to sign other players instead of Osimhen. Zero chance for him to go to the League one.

I don't know what to say honestly. I strongly think that Napoli have to sell Osimhen to make ends meet, they have made many signings and few disposals, so most likely Victor Osimhen will be sold, if not, it will benefit Serie A to keep a champion like Osimhen around for a while longer.

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August 24, 2024, 08:57:46 PM
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imagine that Chelsea continues struggling like this for the next four years? it means you're bent on staying with the club till forever? palmer is already 22 and in the next 10 years he will be 32 which means he will be spending all his fruitful years at Chelsea? and if Chelsea continues like this there won't be a single champions league for him since at the moment Chelsea can't win the champions league?

Now that it has been agreed and indeed all forms of risk it seems Palmer already knows that indeed he will continue to be at Chelsea after signing this contract even though if you look at this condition it is quite unfortunate if Chelsea's performance remains strugling like now but Palmer's individual performance is quite good indeed will make Palmer's efforts in vain.
His contract will expire in 2031 and that means if Chelsea's conditions remain unable to develop and are still the same as now then indeed as you say this will only be a wasted age for Palmer but there is always a positive side actually because if his performance is most striking alone like last season there could be a big offer later that will save Palmer although there will definitely be drama beforehand.


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August 24, 2024, 09:12:47 PM
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I don't see anything surprising about Lukaku, even Osimhen is much better than him. Statistics for just 1 season prove that Lukaku goal productivity is only 13 goals from 32 matches and that is below Osimhen who collected 15 goals from 25 matches. However, Napoli still insists on releasing the player who last season contributed to the club's achievements which managed to contribute the Serie A trophy. All of that is because Conte doesn't like Osimhen and Conte will not include him in the squad even if he stays for 1 season. There is no way out for Osimhen other than forcing Napoli to release him. In Serie A, a club like Napoli has lost its chances, so it is not surprising that at the end of the season Napoli can only finish in 10th.

Rumors circulating that Osimhen really wants to leave Napoli in this summer's transfer window, he has also reportedly informed the club's manager. In addition, several clubs are indeed interested in using his services. It's just that the problem is the price that Napoli has set, so that one by one the clubs that want his services do not want to pay the release clause of this Napoli striker. Maybe that's the reason Conte wants to bring in Lukaku, because Osimhen no longer wants to play with Napoli. The relevant reason for Conte is that he doesn't like to involve players who really want to leave. Honestly, I'm not sure Lukaku will shine with Napoli, but Conte wants him. Romano reported that Chelsea and Napoli are continuing the formal steps for all the documents signed for the Romelu Kulaku agreement. Maybe it's just a matter of time, until Lukaku finally joins Napoli. Osimhen's story has faded a little in a few days, but the rumors I read are that Chelsea and Napoli have made a separate agreement between Osimhen and Lukaku. We'll see if the Osimhen drama will end. Or, in the end, Osimhen will not join any club and stay at Napoli.
It Isn't making any sense to continuing in keeping a player whose interest and mind is no longer with the team, and at this point, I believe coach Conte must have realised this. Therefore,  looking for an alternative or a replacement player in the name of Lukaku left him with no option, reason being that eventually they come to realizing that keeping the young player in the club in disguise with their high transfer fees won't benefit the club much, and if at the end Osimhen remained at the club this season.

You are right and the main reason for Conte to ask the team to hire Lukaku was because of him thinking about Osimhen leaving the team otherwise Conte is smart enough to keep both players in the team because both of these two players are good enough to be in the first squad and this won't be good to keep both in the same time.
However, Osimhen's case is still not closed and he is about to leave Napoli and join Chelsea.

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August 24, 2024, 11:51:06 PM
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There are news of Gabriel Jesus being injured in draining before this Aston Villa match. It’s likely going to be a groin injury. It’ll be a big fvck up if Arsenal don’t get an attacker.
I agree that Arsenal can't rely on Gabriel Jesus anymore. He is getting often injured and his performance is declining much. I didn't see something special anymore with Gabriel Jesus in the previous season. That may be the reason that Arteta rarely put Gabriel Jesus as the starter, mostly Arteta prefers Kai Havertz to be starter as a striker. Unfortunately, Kai Havertz's main position isn't a striker, he isn't a pure machine goal. So, it is very urgent that Arsenal needs to sign a new striker.

As far as I know, Arsenal is rumored to sign Viktor Gyokeres. He is a pure striker, a real machine goal. His goal record in Sporting CP was impressive. I can agree with Arteta to sign this man. However, I don't know how far the negotiation made by Arsenal. They should sign him as quick as possible because the transfer window will be nearing the end.

This may be the updated information about Arsenal negotiation with Viktor Gyokeres: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-chelsea-transfers-viktor-gyokeres-33531455





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August 24, 2024, 11:59:11 PM
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There are news of Gabriel Jesus being injured in draining before this Aston Villa match. It’s likely going to be a groin injury. It’ll be a big fvck up if Arsenal don’t get an attacker.
I agree that Arsenal can't rely on Gabriel Jesus anymore. He is getting often injured and his performance is declining much. I didn't see something special anymore with Gabriel Jesus in the previous season. That may be the reason that Arteta rarely put Gabriel Jesus as the starter, mostly Arteta prefers Kai Havertz to be starter as a striker. Unfortunately, Kai Havertz's main position isn't a striker, he isn't a pure machine goal. So, it is very urgent that Arsenal needs to sign a new striker.



At this moment, I think Arsenal must sign another striker that'll serve as a backup to Kai Havertz incase the German striker gets injured or who'll replace him when he needs to be rested in some games because from every available report, Gabriel Jesus might not be able to deliver quality football again even if he returns back from the injury he picked recently. The Brazilian's Arsenal career have been seriously marred by injury and that have visibly affected his performance even when he's fit. Arsenal are title contenders and mustn't rely solely on the brilliance of Kai Havertz if they really want to break the 20 years deadlock of not winning the league title.

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August 25, 2024, 12:46:03 AM
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Juventus is still talking with Manchester United for a move for  Jadon Sancho.
The only way for Sancho could move to Italy is on a loan with probably a part of the salary paid from Manchester. IMHO.
Napoli wants more player and they AIM for Scott McTominay
Arsenal giving up on Nico Williams
Southampton is looking for Aaron Ramsdale.

Source BBC

Yeah, Manchester United shouldn't hesitate to sell such players. I don't think he has settled his issues with Erik ten Hag truthfully. Pay a visit to his socials and you'll see he's got no respect for Manchester United nor the fans. It's been months since he left Borrussia Dortmund but he's still got them everywhere on his socials. Complete fraud who hasn't upped his performance during for Manchester United.

They already sent in offers but according to what I read, Manchester United do not find it enough. Nico Williams to Arsenal can never happen. This is another Barcelona bound player. The only delay with getting him has got to be the funds.

Aaron Ramsdale needs to leave. He is not the goalkeeper for a big club like Arsenal honestly. His ball passing, delivery and serving are not top quality but he's got a quick reflex but it not all bout that.

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August 25, 2024, 01:24:19 AM
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Have you seen this? Chelsea is topping this table with 10 players. They are trying their best to make the longest contracts with their players. Palmer has just extended his for example. I hope they don't do this with all of their players.  Tongue

Because the number of players is excessive now. There must be around 40 players. What will they do with this many players?  Huh  The Premier League allows 25 players to be registered, it must be the same for the Champions League too. Then so many players are staying out...
I have seen it. The new contract seems to improve Palmer's old one. His performances far outpaced his wage. So, the club decided to adjust his wage on the new contract extension. Also, Palmer is gonna receive his new weekly salary on his new contract, which is around £130k.

They will also do this if another player performs incredibly. It's not about the length of their contract. It's about what new agreement exists in the extension between them and the player.

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Have you seen this? Chelsea is topping this table with 10 players. They are trying their best to make the longest contracts with their players. Palmer has just extended his for example. I hope they don't do this with all of their players.  Tongue

Because the number of players is excessive now. There must be around 40 players. What will they do with this many players?  Huh  The Premier League allows 25 players to be registered, it must be the same for the Champions League too. Then so many players are staying out...

Is like the Chelsea board are forcing each players to extend their contract to enable them win the league I mean on that picture, like you said they are topping so they should at least win that since they can't win the EPL title 😂. Although is not funny and I still wonder why players who knows the club is not that strong enough to compete against the big 6 in the EPL or win the league title and yet they sign a contract for that long, at least 3-4 years is enough but 7yrs🤔? Is a no no for me, Chelsea has every player coming in but how many has proven himself that they are playing to make the team be as strong as before apart from Palmer who tried his best last season to move the form of Chelsea to a better one, without Cole Palmer's effort I don't think Chelsea would have been playing the play-off of the conference league today so the others need to show us why they signed a much longer deal with the club.











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August 25, 2024, 03:08:12 AM
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Currently it is reported that the transfer between Osimhen and Chelsea has been completed so we are just waiting for the time for Lukaku move to Napoli, although both teams have the their players they are targeting, but Chelsea and Napoli not want to exchange players and are inclined to negotiate separate packages between the two, if the move is to Napoli has come true, so that's good luck for Lukaku because he has known Serie A well for so long, besides that, Conte which really wants Lukaku to be in his squad, will certainly guarantee him a place in Napoli main squad in this season.


Until today I still wonder why Conte chose Lukaku over Osimhen. While in the long term Osimhen can provide a good future for the team but it all seems like there is a little problem with Napoli. I mean it's not actually Conte who wants Lukaku but Napoli wants to sell Osimhen to make a profit while Conte is given the freedom to find a replacement for Osimhen and choose Lukaku. If this transfer really happens, Napoli will get a big change to be able to get points in every match and fight again to win the Scudetto. But if this transfer is not done soon, Napoli will continue to lose points in every Serie A match.

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There are news of Gabriel Jesus being injured in draining before this Aston Villa match. It’s likely going to be a groin injury. It’ll be a big fvck up if Arsenal don’t get an attacker.
I agree that Arsenal can't rely on Gabriel Jesus anymore. He is getting often injured and his performance is declining much. I didn't see something special anymore with Gabriel Jesus in the previous season. That may be the reason that Arteta rarely put Gabriel Jesus as the starter, mostly Arteta prefers Kai Havertz to be starter as a striker. Unfortunately, Kai Havertz's main position isn't a striker, he isn't a pure machine goal. So, it is very urgent that Arsenal needs to sign a new striker.



At this moment, I think Arsenal must sign another striker that'll serve as a backup to Kai Havertz incase the German striker gets injured or who'll replace him when he needs to be rested in some games because from every available report, Gabriel Jesus might not be able to deliver quality football again even if he returns back from the injury he picked recently. The Brazilian's Arsenal career have been seriously marred by injury and that have visibly affected his performance even when he's fit. Arsenal are title contenders and mustn't rely solely on the brilliance of Kai Havertz if they really want to break the 20 years deadlock of not winning the league title.
I think this problem cannot be solved with just Kai Havertz. A few reserve players other than Kai Havertz are necessary. Although Arsenal has the power to produce important names from the youth academy, perhaps Arteta can try and promote a few players from there to the first team. Arsenal is also a team that has made a name for itself with quality players in its youth academy. I think they should use this advantage well instead of making a new transfer.

 
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This is the new face of the Real Betis player and his smile seems to say finally I'm free for a while. Grin

Vitor Roque looks happy after being able to leave Barcelona and with this the possibility of getting more playing minutes in his new team is also wide open. Before doing something envious, of course he must pass a medical test first and also sign his contract with Real Betis.

Although this transfer is only a loan for a season, what is clear is that he has found the right place to prove his talent that must be hidden in Barcelona. In addition, Barcelona also has another advantage with the departure of Vitor Roque because they can register Dani Olmo for the squad list this season.
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Have you seen this? Chelsea is topping this table with 10 players. They are trying their best to make the longest contracts with their players. Palmer has just extended his for example. I hope they don't do this with all of their players.  Tongue

Because the number of players is excessive now. There must be around 40 players. What will they do with this many players?  Huh  The Premier League allows 25 players to be registered, it must be the same for the Champions League too. Then so many players are staying out...
The logic is simple, no matter how much they pay for these players, if they sign a long contract, they do not have to put it on the paper all together. Meaning, if they pay 100 million for a player, but sign him for 10 years, that means 10 million a year on their paper, not 100 all together. Which opens up a huge door for them and they are making a lot better results as well, this is why I think it's clear that we are going to end up seeing them do very well.

It needs to be considered very important for them, it is going to be really really tough. I am not sure if it can be done any other way, I do not know if they can keep this up, every year they need to sell a few players to cover all this debt, and that's how they sell a few and then get many.

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August 25, 2024, 06:38:05 AM
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I have a hard time understanding İlkay Gündoğan. Why did you go to Barça and now why are you returning to City? I don't think it will be a matter of money, but it didn't make sense for me to take a year off and transfer back to the Premier League, which has a high level of difficulty.
Most likely, he will be a mover player, not a starting eleven player.

Ilkay was Pep's joker card. Pep even played him as a striker when necessary. We all know that he won't be able to reach his former performance due to his age, but even his contribution will be very important in the games where he will come into the game later on. Manchester City couldn't get the same results from their signings in his place. Playing for Manchester City once again in the last years of his career will benefit Manchester City more than anyone else...

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Ilkay was Pep's joker card. Pep even played him as a striker when necessary. We all know that he won't be able to reach his former performance due to his age, but even his contribution will be very important in the games where he will come into the game later on. Manchester City couldn't get the same results from their signings in his place. Playing for Manchester City once again in the last years of his career will benefit Manchester City more than anyone else...
Man City always performs consistently because they have a coach who is able to utilize the quality of the players they have. Haaland would not have become a great player like he is now if it were not for Pep Guardiola as his coach and we can also see how capable he is in developing the skills of the players he has. The advantage of Man City is having a competent coach and it cannot be denied why they have been so successful so far.

In terms of age it is true that İlkay Gündoğan no longer has the same ability, but his contribution is still quite large and Pep Guardiola knows this so they recruited him again. I think his presence really helps the team to perform consistently because he has the ability to play the rhythm of the game.

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Have you seen this? Chelsea is topping this table with 10 players. They are trying their best to make the longest contracts with their players. Palmer has just extended his for example. I hope they don't do this with all of their players.  Tongue

Because the number of players is excessive now. There must be around 40 players. What will they do with this many players?  Huh  The Premier League allows 25 players to be registered, it must be the same for the Champions League too. Then so many players are staying out...
The logic is simple, no matter how much they pay for these players, if they sign a long contract, they do not have to put it on the paper all together. Meaning, if they pay 100 million for a player, but sign him for 10 years, that means 10 million a year on their paper, not 100 all together. Which opens up a huge door for them and they are making a lot better results as well, this is why I think it's clear that we are going to end up seeing them do very well.

It needs to be considered very important for them, it is going to be really really tough. I am not sure if it can be done any other way, I do not know if they can keep this up, every year they need to sell a few players to cover all this debt, and that's how they sell a few and then get many.
Yes. When American businessman Todd Boehly took control of Chelsea in 2022, the billionaire was quick to exploit a loophole in English football regulations, signing unusually long contracts (more than seven years) to spread out transfer costs. Thanks to this loophole, Chelsea can freely spend money on players and still meet financial fair play regulations thanks to the method of dividing transactions over a long period.
The reason Todd Boehly spent money to buy many players was because he wanted to end the crisis soon. But instead of bringing in proven names to immediately upgrade the squad, Chelsea seems to be just "panning for gold" in the hope that their long-term investments are in the right place. Of course, not every signing can bring success like Cole Palmer, and, many young talents recruited by The Blues last summer such as Angelo, Deivid Washington, or Lesley Ugochukwu, are still quite "unknown" to the majority of fans. I am concerned that this policy will backfire and the club will continue to fall into crisis.

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