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July 14, 2017, 08:50:05 PM
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Reggie: "Goldman Sachs patent was processed first because they paid for the examination earlier. Our priority date still stands and is earlier than  Goldman’s."


 
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July 14, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
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Our patent apps predate the Goldman apps, and the Goldman apps cover less area.

In other words we could possibly win $ awards from Goldman Sacs? Isn't this what happen to Apple ? Something like that. Come to think of it all other companies might have to pay to play. That patent could be worth $$  Shocked


By the way if no-one had noticed the multi-prong attack from Fudsters trying to steal some cheap Veri.  HODL  Wink
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July 14, 2017, 10:26:17 PM
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Whats happening to Veritaseum if stock market goes down completely caused by financial crisis? Positiv? negativ?
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July 14, 2017, 10:27:57 PM
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Whats happening to Veritaseum if stock market goes down completely caused by financial crisis? Positiv? negativ?
Shouldn't have any direct bearing. Exchanges make money on trade volume, not direction.

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July 14, 2017, 10:28:17 PM
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Whats happening to Veritaseum if stock market goes down completely caused by financial crisis? Positiv? negativ?
 


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July 15, 2017, 03:49:20 AM
Last edit: July 15, 2017, 06:51:32 AM by Dorky
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That's not how it works at Mercatox at all, or on Bittrex or other platforms for other ERC20 tokens. It's a direct transaction.
Just like a farmer on the US/Canada border might sell his crops for USD and CAD and has a price for his crops in both currencies, this is no different.

I would argue in the case of VERI trading, traders consider the price in their local fiat currency as much as anything else.

Yes, indeed those exchanges do direct transaction.

But...
Do you ever realize because of such direct transaction, those exchanges re-introduce the element of trust into the system?
By right, we get into blockchain because of it being trustless.
And those exchanges doing direct transaction is not being trustless, which is one reason why they can lock/freeze/steal their customers' funds.

What I am in favor of is direct transaction in a trustless network.
At the moment we are doing direct transaction in a trust-based network, which contradicts the blockchain.

If Veritas' market cap exceeds eth's and btc's market caps in a trust-based network, then Veritas' market cap is unsustainable and will adjust lower.
If Veritas' market cap exceeds eth's and btc's market caps in a trustless network, then Veritas' market cap is sustainable and can go even higher.
At the moment, as Veritas is an ERC20 token, thus it cannot exceed eth's market cap in a sustainable way.
I know my argument is hard to be accepted, but I believe I am right in this and time will eventually prove I am right.

Edit:
If you set up an exchange to accept USD for VERI, I will need to trust you that you will send me VERI after receiving my USD.
Then you will say, "No need for trust as everything is based on smart contract".
Yes, but your smart contract will be programmed/written to consider BTC/ETH and ETH/VERI to finalize the transaction.
Your smart contract can NEVER be programmed/written to exclude ETH from the equation (if you say it can, that means you are lying).
In such a structure, direct transaction is possible whereby ETH is used as gas only, not currency, but I still need to trust you.
In a structure where trust is not needed (trustless), then ETH will be used both as gas and currency.
For that, Veritas' market cap will remain capped by ETH's market cap.
I hope you are intelligent enough to understand what I wrote.

The only thing that can reduce the risk of trust, is for the exchanges to have Veritas token stockpiled as reserve.
Then ETH will be used as gas only.
Or else if exchanges have no such reserve, then they will be forced to convert USD into ETH and then ETH into VERI, thus ETH being used as gas and currency, limiting Veritas' market cap.


     
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July 15, 2017, 03:55:04 AM
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I believe the patent priority is given to "first-to-file".

If so, then Veritaseum has no problem.


     
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July 15, 2017, 03:59:18 AM
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By being an ERC20 coin VERI could go down with ETH. When ETH gets dumped, all the ERC20 tokens follow the same curve.
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By being an ERC20 coin VERI could go down with ETH. When ETH gets dumped, all the ERC20 tokens follow the same curve.


Yeah.... I think the rain in Spain stays mainly in the plains.

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July 15, 2017, 04:02:15 PM
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Can someone point me to the bounty program post? I have searched this forum and can't seem to find it.

Maybe it should also be on the VERI website and in the OP?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fqs9h0eCZzMN_H97xhodeIBdQWOY2MjHy6Drl9uJH_0/edit?usp=sharing
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just found this

http:/

looks like its the same owner of http://

interesting
Beware sketchy as hell links!!!!
I have no idea where those links go, they could be phishing sites or a hacker trying to grab your IP address and find an open port on your computer. Beware!!!!



Edit: check..

PSA:  Also saw that a fake Phishing email going around  supposedly  from MEW= MyEtherWallet saying to upgrade to 2FA going around. It's a scam to get your priv keys.
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just found this


Beware sketchy as hell links!!!!
I have no idea where those links go, they could be phishing sites or a hacker trying to grab your IP address and find an open port on your computer. Beware!!!!

That post should be deleted. 1st post from that user and immediately a sketchy link? sketchy...


Edit: reported to mods.

@Josef, best to delete the links from your quote, just so no one can click it.
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July 15, 2017, 05:57:01 PM
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sorry guys.

I deleted my post, used to talk on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/user/carrasboy/) ;

I understand if you think its a scam,

but no worries, just wanted to share this because no veritas community exists on reddit.
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sorry guys.

I deleted my post, used to talk on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/user/carrasboy/) ;

I understand if you think its a scam,

but no worries, just wanted to share this because no veritas community exists on reddit.

No worries man, we're all a bit on edge, with all the phishing scams around.
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July 15, 2017, 11:22:12 PM
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 So, please humor me, new investor.  TO CLARIFY:  These tokens have dual purpose, knowledge & then being able to execute the decisions you make yourself on the blockchain through them. So after i purchase a report, i then can use a VERI to write up my contract and have it executed? Is this basically correct?  On a side note, i see a need, a big one; teaching people to work with smart contracts. 
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July 16, 2017, 12:06:13 AM
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New Reggie Videos:
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July 16, 2017, 12:58:22 AM
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When is VERI going to get listed on a big exchange like Bittrex?
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When is VERI going to get listed on a big exchange like Bittrex?
Did I interpret it wrong or did Reggie imply that the big exchanges have some kind of problem with VERI and/or were bribed by competitors?

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July 16, 2017, 09:52:55 AM
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Why bother with Bittrex.

If we keep begging (a more practical word for "requesting") Bittrex to list Veri, we are actually humiliating ourselves.
As if we can't thrive without Bittrex.
By right, we should make Veri scarce by limiting its listing to just one or two exchanges.
And if Bittrex is slow enough to be the 3rd exchange to list Veri, we should not entertain it.

Why put ourselves into a disadvantaged position?
Why are we playing this game the loser's way?
If I were the CEO of Bittrex, I would tell my friends that Veri is so lowlife that their CEO and followers are literally begging me day and night to list their token.
Don't be humiliated.
Fuck Bittrex.


     
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