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[cocoadreamboy]

I was just blocked and removed from the telegram group after I asked what the millions were spent on. I believe Nixims is Ton in disguise because he is brand new and has only appeared recently and is very against knowing what the money was spent on. This reeks of scam as well as censorship. I have been active on telegram and slack since the beginning. There was no reason to remove me from the group.

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[msktrader15]

@Cool4y is the real hero. He tried to warn all of us, but we didn't listen. There's always some truth to every conspiracy. I disappointed in myself that I didn't cash out when NVO hit $4 in bull run.

Cool4y was not only who spokes truth but he was constantly harassed by band of sock puppets. There are tons of comments calling him "an idiot" or so. I glad to see how the time had point out who are man and who are piece of crap here.

[msktrader15]

Ton on Telegram after pretending not to know the amount collected. Ton is a liar.

The total funds raised per currency:
BTC: 1590.919664
LTC: 7807.588
XRP: 1325280.390
ETH: 6477.095
MAID: 765482
DASH: 1916.643
WAVES: 31145.630
DOGE: 23577240.970
ETC: 4126.090
Conversion rates per currency into BTC*:
BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768
Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826
This means that any price changes for you, as an investor, no longer matter. You can use these numbers to estimate the number of tokens that you will receive.

There is only remaining 1,140BTC sitting here 36Uh2ine6UzWGPTDYdENqS6pj6Rzx4Q67R
It is funny, in current prices it's 7,3M USD, if they buy back 15M NVST all investors can get ~0.5 USD per token.
Bitcoin magic

[cool4y]

@Cool4y is the real hero. He tried to warn all of us, but we didn't listen. There's always some truth to every conspiracy. I disappointed in myself that I didn't cash out when NVO hit $4 in bull run.

Cool4y was not only who spokes truth but he was constantly harassed by band of sock puppets. There are tons of comments calling him "an idiot" or so. I glad to see how the time had point out who are man and who are piece of crap here.

Thanks guys, i'm glad that some of you appreciated work.

[vlom]

should this topic be moved to Scam Accusations?

[Lauda]

Can we get an official update on where things are going currently, just roughly speaking. Is more time needed, are more things being collected as information. A lot of things have been said, but the end of the day there's still a bigger question waiting for its final words.

Can we guys (heh), Lauda, expect a decision by Friday? Does that seem plausible?

First: Figure out a voting method unless 'yanni' suddenly appears and agrees with ton on that refund decision. Second: Refund/buyback (whatever terminology you want to use).

I was just blocked and removed from the telegram group after I asked what the millions were spent on.

I left it voluntarily. The censorship is bad as is, but there are also lot of self-entitled assholes in there which makes it pointless to try and remain there in the first place. You can follow updates here.

should this topic be moved to Scam Accusations?

Are you intentionally trying to be annoying?

[vlom]

Are you intentionally trying to be annoying?

do you have a sense of humor  ?
i call this gallows humour. got it?

[jumperjump]

First: Figure out a voting method unless 'yanni' suddenly appears and agrees with ton on that refund decision.

I'm confused as to the rationale that would allow a vote at this stage.

With talk of voter manipulation, assertions of misappropriation of funds, one founder apparently prepared to bring a lawsuit against the other (i.e. Imed vs Ton Bi), and some investors prepared to bring this in front of European boards... I don't see (ethically/logically/etc...) how this could be left to a vote. Any sort of vote that extends this further will very likely succeed in expanding the size of the mess.

It's also worth noting that Imed has apparently published a copy of what appears to be a legal request for a prosecutor to take action against whom I presume to be Yanni. The legal request apparently alleges property theft, identity theft, and fraudulent bank accounts. Given that these are not minor allegations... decision about a vote should not hinge upon Yanni's involvement or lack thereof until such a time where he's cleared legally. My estimate is that investors would prefer not to wait for the duration of time this would take.

With the scale & pace at which government is being invited into this I could see it expanding to the point of legally ensnaring everyone (including escrows). It's been my impression that investors aren't liking the idea of having liquidity tied up in this for years while the only progress being made is to the financial benefit of lawyers. It's not even a matter of regret investing where absurd demands are being made by the investors either. Most appear happy to take their 60% haircut and move on.

That... and if a vote would win any kind of legitimate (e.g not manipulated) majority... then the founders should not be concerned by the idea of a refund. Any legitimate majority in their favor would happily reinvest after a refund proper.

[DotNetApp]

short info
about the people complaining that 1400 btc are not enough (so from alt to btc) you all forgot that altcoin crashed extreme.



OLD Conversion Rate

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768



Todays conversion rate (13.08.2018)

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.00903533
XRP: 0.00004485
ETH: 0.04612566
MAID: 0.00003805
DASH: 0.02342568
WAVES: 0.00032511
DOGE: 0.00000037
ETC: 0.00200381

just look at eth 0.12242700(past) vs 0.04612566(today)
Now at Nvst 0.00020366666(past) vs 0.00009333333(today)
So we can say if the refund/buyback happens that nvst was a better invest than eth back than ( or atleast it was not tha bad as eth).

[cocoadreamboy]

short info
about the people complaining that 1400 btc are not enough (so from alt to btc) you all forgot that altcoin crashed extreme.



OLD Conversion Rate

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768



Todays conversion rate (13.08.2018)

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.00903533
XRP: 0.00004485
ETH: 0.04612566
MAID: 0.00003805
DASH: 0.02342568
WAVES: 0.00032511
DOGE: 0.00000037
ETC: 0.00200381

just look at eth 0.12242700(past) vs 0.04612566(today)
Now at Nvst 0.00020366666(past) vs 0.00009333333(today)
So we can say if the refund/buyback happens that nvst was a better invest than eth back than ( or atleast it was not tha bad as eth).

The current conversion rate doesn't matter. What matters is the conversion rate over the past year. It is full on bear now, Alts did well against BTC at various points last year. I remember dash got up to .09 at one point. You have to think of this over time not stagnant.

[DotNetApp]

short info
about the people complaining that 1400 btc are not enough (so from alt to btc) you all forgot that altcoin crashed extreme.



OLD Conversion Rate

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768



Todays conversion rate (13.08.2018)

BTC: 1
LTC: 0.00903533
XRP: 0.00004485
ETH: 0.04612566
MAID: 0.00003805
DASH: 0.02342568
WAVES: 0.00032511
DOGE: 0.00000037
ETC: 0.00200381

just look at eth 0.12242700(past) vs 0.04612566(today)
Now at Nvst 0.00020366666(past) vs 0.00009333333(today)
So we can say if the refund/buyback happens that nvst was a better invest than eth back than ( or atleast it was not tha bad as eth).

The current conversion rate doesn't matter. What matters is the conversion rate over the past year. It is full on bear now, Alts did well against BTC at various points last year. I remember dash got up to .09 at one point. You have to think of this over time not stagnant.

But many alts just got converted today so the numbers of today are relevant.

[rambogoham1]

It appears that yanni should return back by tomorrow, I have not been banned from the telegram so will try to keep people posted here.

[Lauda]

With talk of voter manipulation, assertions of misappropriation of funds, one founder apparently prepared to bring a lawsuit against the other (i.e. Imed vs Ton Bi), and some investors prepared to bring this in front of European boards... I don't see (ethically/logically/etc...) how this could be left to a vote.

Which is just the classic nonsense from self-entitled idiots. Allegedly Yanni is returning (see post above); so let's see what happens.

short info
about the people complaining that 1400 btc are not enough (so from alt to btc) you all forgot that altcoin crashed extreme.

The greed is strong nowadays.

But many alts just got converted today so the numbers of today are relevant.

Someone gets it.

[kurko2017]

When there is any additional information about the project, because I'm very active in supporting this project and very much hope that you will be able to stand out in a number of projects.

[jumperjump]

With talk of voter manipulation, assertions of misappropriation of funds, one founder apparently prepared to bring a lawsuit against the other (i.e. Imed vs Ton Bi), and some investors prepared to bring this in front of European boards... I don't see (ethically/logically/etc...) how this could be left to a vote.

Which is just the classic nonsense from self-entitled idiots. Allegedly Yanni is returning (see post above); so let's see what happens.

My recommendation sources from professional ethics applied to this situation.

When serious allegations arise regarding the legality of activities of internal management then all decisions resulting from those activities must either stop or be put on hold until a proper review is performed. Given that there are serious allegations levied in nearly all corners of this project at this point... I can think of no part of it which may continue as normal pursuant to the application of professional ethics.

A proper review requires the clearing of Yanni legally. It is alleged in the complaint that a computer was stolen which contained the DEX software. This makes the legal complaint of property theft relevant to this project ethically and legally. The assertions of fraud may also be relevant (i.e. we don't know at this time) and also require a proper clearing.

A proper review as mentioned above would tie up investor liquidity. All investors I've spoken to oppose the idea of their liquidity being tied up for very long.

From posts and comments I've seen there appears to be a discrepancy in how much the investors should be refunded. I propose that they be refunded the lowest undisputed amount as soon as possible with any discrepancies refunded to them at later date once the details are worked out. e.g. if everyone agrees the refund amount is at least 40% then 40% should be airdropped as soon as reasonably possible with any remainder sent once the details are settled.

[rambogoham1]

Lauda, you arrogant worthless piece of shit, I would say get you head out of your butt but Tons in the way tongue punching it.

Oh my goodness that was a good laugh to read and quite the username you have going there I might add.

[cocoadreamboy]

These are photos of both Ton and Imed agreeing to full refunds. These were made in the very beginning of this fiasco so the term buyback was not being used yet. It is clear that both founders are ready for a fair resolution.

[crypt0kid]

Lauda, you arrogant worthless piece of shit, I would say get you head out of your butt but Tons in the way tongue punching it.

Oh my goodness that was a good laugh to read and quite the username you have going there I might add.

Fantastic post! 

[tonnvo]

https://medium.com/@nvoteam/vote-started-b3e37e0c1ecf

[jumperjump]

https://medium.com/@nvoteam/vote-started-b3e37e0c1ecf

These terms appear fair.

There is only one thing I must protest and one other thing I have concerns over.

This test vote will last 2 weeks and will become the final vote if nothing goes wrong. Vote will end sooner if at least 70% of balances have voted.

The potential early closure is a problem if allowed to close too soon. Some people may desire refunds and be away with family, busy with work, etc... Might I suggest a minimum window that this is held open for?

Send ALL your NVSTVOTING tokens to...

Were these airdropped and when?