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March 11, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
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The existence of God does not contradict evolution. And vice versa

Again, evolution has several different meanings, one of them being simple change. Creation of the universe by God contradicts The Theory of Evolution.

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God contradicts The Theory of Evolution. <<WOW at last god does contradict EVOLUTION ..
God contradicts SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE AND FREEDOM Grin..

So thanks for finally getting EVOLUTION .  God CONTRADICTS science ..Also my brains Grin..

The only thing the bible good for is if you read it over and over you will be good at reading writing and spelling Wink..That's it though..

No science no making stuffs just all BULLSHIT..
Now if your going to RELIGIOUSLY READ BULLSHIT   read CODE and science books that will give you EVERYTHING Wink

Why waste your time on lies when read the TRUTH Wink..

God made all the things that we discover through science. We haven't discovered evolution.

If you look through the history of evolution theory, you will find that evolution theory has never found anything that supports it other than the talk of people. Everything that might support evolution theory supports something else better, something like adaptation.

Since we haven't discovered evolution in the form that evolution theory suggests, and when evolution theory proves that such evolution doesn't exist like it has been doing, such evolution is a lie. When the lie is promoted as fact, it is a hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

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This ''His ways are mysterious and better than what we want.'' is actually one of the worst arguments from religious people. Why would you trust god then, if you don't know whether his actions are actually good or bad then why trust him? Even if he really existed, why would I follow him?

To evaluate it you have to have the gift of discernement. Most people do not want it because as Solomon had wrote - understanding and wisdom brings suffering to the wise person. People prefer to be dumb, but it is required for christian not to be dumb.

You don't have to be too smart to realize that slavery or rape is wrong yet the bible is full of it, in fact it endorses it and even has rules for it, great god you have.

The Bible is against people who kidnap, buy or sell other people for use as slaves. The Bible is totally in favor of people voluntarily selling themselves into temporary "slavery" when they are poor, so that they can get out of their poverty.

The Bible is totally against rape.

You totally misinterpret what is being done where there are certain judgments in the Bible that are different than the way that you would judge. Bible judgments are better. This can be seen by the fact that you would badmouth the Bible with your lies, in intentional ignorance, or maliciously.

In the same way that you talk falsely about the bible, so you talk falsely about evolution. There isn't any evolution in the sense of evolution theory. Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Look at your pathetic excuses... God couldn't find a better way to get people out of poverty than slavery? Why not a normal job where your master cannot beat you almost to death with no consequences.

''When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)''

There is no rational defense for all the disgusting verses in the bible yet you still think god not only exists but that he is actually good.

You are having such a difficult time understanding the mindset of those ancient people.

No defense is necessary for something that people hold as part of their living conditions when it is reality. But when you continue to reject God, there is no defense for you.

With the Bible words that you are showing, above, God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.

But you would rather maintain slavery for the minds of people by continuing to promote something as stupid as evolution. So, you are the slave maker here.

Cool

''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

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March 11, 2018, 04:19:21 PM
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The existence of God does not contradict evolution. And vice versa

Again, evolution has several different meanings, one of them being simple change. Creation of the universe by God contradicts The Theory of Evolution.

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God contradicts The Theory of Evolution. <<WOW at last god does contradict EVOLUTION ..
God contradicts SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE AND FREEDOM Grin..

So thanks for finally getting EVOLUTION .  God CONTRADICTS science ..Also my brains Grin..

The only thing the bible good for is if you read it over and over you will be good at reading writing and spelling Wink..That's it though..

No science no making stuffs just all BULLSHIT..
Now if your going to RELIGIOUSLY READ BULLSHIT   read CODE and science books that will give you EVERYTHING Wink

Why waste your time on lies when read the TRUTH Wink..

God made all the things that we discover through science. We haven't discovered evolution.

If you look through the history of evolution theory, you will find that evolution theory has never found anything that supports it other than the talk of people. Everything that might support evolution theory supports something else better, something like adaptation.

Since we haven't discovered evolution in the form that evolution theory suggests, and when evolution theory proves that such evolution doesn't exist like it has been doing, such evolution is a lie. When the lie is promoted as fact, it is a hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
God made all the things that we discover through science..

But in the old days SCIENCE was witch craft and god didn't like it ..

Scientists Executed by the Catholic Church - Unam Sanctam Catholicam
www.unamsanctamcatholicam.com/.../596-scientists-executed-by-the-catholic-%20ch...
His greatest work was the Opus Major, which contains treatments of mathematics, optics, alchemy, and astronomy, including theories on the positions and sizes of the celestial bodies. Bacon appears to have been imprisoned by the ecclesiastical authorities sometime around 1279 and may have died in captivity.

So as your god now EVOLVED to like SCIENCE?

You had many old time religious peoples BUT now in the 21st century god now likes science?

See i was going to say god said he likes science SO DID god say he liked science Badecker?
considering no one there to say anything BUT you say god done what for your god to now like SCIENCE ?..

It's a fact you evolved from this EARTH Wink..
It's a fact you keep evolving your god Wink..

Imagine your god turns out to be a little atom blob light and from that point all life started does that mean you should pray and sing to the blob light considering it cannot communicate with us ..

Can you talk to germ cell ?..
Now if your controlling the germ cell then that makes us the gods not the germ cell ..

A god is what BADECKER what does it do ?
Why is it here ?
what does it want?

Now remember you say because of science your god is not the bible god it's something else
because in the bible it say god is in the image of man?

So now you made your own god up that's not in the bible BUT you still preach the bible when you know for fact because of science that the bible god cannot be so Wink..

You contradict yourself by evolving your god so many times over ..
One 1 second your god does this the next you change it so you keeps evolving your god..

Hay maybe god changes they say people can change he is in the image of man Cheesy
Yes so maybe even god believes in EVOLUTION and you don't Badecker ..

So your going to hell badecker because your not believing in what god believes god evolved many a time ..
So now you know god believes in evolution don't you now? Grin

Has god changed over many times ? So it evolved to the gods we have today Grin

So you sinner for not believing in EVOLUTION ..

And god told me like he tells you Cheesy Cheesy..What makes you right but me wrong ? Angry Angry

He told me to tell you your off your nut Cheesy

Now if you say god doesn't talk to you then how come you know all these new things about god?..
Then my god said your god is full of poo  Cheesy
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March 11, 2018, 07:15:10 PM
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''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

You know that with enough bad will you can make any complicated matter malicious if one intend to picture it like so? You don't? That is why you will not see God. You are willfully ignorant about that truths.

Baddecker have explained it to you very well. You just do not understand the ancient societies. The Bible was perfect solution for the inperfection of the ancient enviroment of work, of social matters etc.

I can paint any society as malicious, especially with current society. But why would I do that? I try to give a benefits of a doubt to matters that maybe I do not understand something. Sadly the evolution gives a little space to the benefit of a doubt.

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''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

You know that with enough bad will you can make any complicated matter malicious if one intend to picture it like so? You don't? That is why you will not see God. You are willfully ignorant about that truths.

Baddecker have explained it to you very well. You just do not understand the ancient societies. The Bible was perfect solution for the inperfection of the ancient enviroment of work, of social matters etc.

I can paint any society as malicious, especially with current society. But why would I do that? I try to give a benefits of a doubt to matters that maybe I do not understand something. Sadly the evolution gives a little space to the benefit of a doubt.


That is why you will not see God. So explain how you know your god is here.

The bean is god now with the human brain i bet we humans could come up with many stories about the bean god Roll Eyes..

The monkey king fights the bean god Cheesy

I wonder what your gods will evolve into next when science proves another fact yet to be discovered ..
I suppose it will change again ..

I bet you all believe the the earth your god in the end Wink Grin
And i will say i told you the earth was god Grin..
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This ''His ways are mysterious and better than what we want.'' is actually one of the worst arguments from religious people. Why would you trust god then, if you don't know whether his actions are actually good or bad then why trust him? Even if he really existed, why would I follow him?

To evaluate it you have to have the gift of discernement. Most people do not want it because as Solomon had wrote - understanding and wisdom brings suffering to the wise person. People prefer to be dumb, but it is required for christian not to be dumb.

You don't have to be too smart to realize that slavery or rape is wrong yet the bible is full of it, in fact it endorses it and even has rules for it, great god you have.

The Bible is against people who kidnap, buy or sell other people for use as slaves. The Bible is totally in favor of people voluntarily selling themselves into temporary "slavery" when they are poor, so that they can get out of their poverty.

The Bible is totally against rape.

You totally misinterpret what is being done where there are certain judgments in the Bible that are different than the way that you would judge. Bible judgments are better. This can be seen by the fact that you would badmouth the Bible with your lies, in intentional ignorance, or maliciously.

In the same way that you talk falsely about the bible, so you talk falsely about evolution. There isn't any evolution in the sense of evolution theory. Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Look at your pathetic excuses... God couldn't find a better way to get people out of poverty than slavery? Why not a normal job where your master cannot beat you almost to death with no consequences.

''When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)''

There is no rational defense for all the disgusting verses in the bible yet you still think god not only exists but that he is actually good.

You are having such a difficult time understanding the mindset of those ancient people.

No defense is necessary for something that people hold as part of their living conditions when it is reality. But when you continue to reject God, there is no defense for you.

With the Bible words that you are showing, above, God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.

But you would rather maintain slavery for the minds of people by continuing to promote something as stupid as evolution. So, you are the slave maker here.

Cool

''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

Well, that's what God almost did... abolish and punish slavery. Almost? Yes, almost.

You see, God is too righteous and loving to involve Himself with punishing any crime, or even abolishing the freedom of people to do right or wrong. So, what Did God do that He ALMOST abolished and punished? He turned over the abolishment and punishment to the people, themselves.

How did God turn over the abolishment and punishment for any wrongdoing to people? By giving to people perfection which would give them a life without death... life filled with great joy without any punishment or need for abolishment. By doing this, God automatically built into nature the quality of abolishment and punishment for any imperfection that a person does. And you well know that all people do things that aren't perfect.

You well know many of the kinds of punishment that people get for their imperfections. They get pain and sorrow and eventually death for their imperfection. So, people create their own punishment and eventual abolishment, and the abolishment of their evil right along with their own abolishment in death.

But God didn't want people to abolish themselves. So, he gave them good laws that fit how the people lived... fit their mindset... so that they had some kind of a chance to reduce their self-inflicted punishment, and so that they might not abolish themselves quite as fast as if God had not given them these laws.

But, you might say? Why didn't God simply force them to not be able to be imperfect? Because then you would be complaining that God had made them slaves of perfection. This way God doesn't have to dirty His hands with abolishment and punishment, or slavery. He can maintain the good that He is giving people. And if people want abolishment and punishment, they can, of their own free will, maintain imperfection within themselves. God doesn't have to do it at all!

Where does that leave you? Perhaps in moderate peace for a time. But your personal abolishment and punishment is hanging over your head, ready and waiting to befall you. All you need to do is continue with the second greatest imperfection of all as you have been doing... rejecting the fact that God exists... next to which slavery is a glimmering candle-light in a cave of blackest darkness. If you won't change, your self-ordained and self-inflicted abolishment and punishment will catch up with you, and you won't like it in the least.

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March 11, 2018, 09:11:40 PM
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The existence of God does not contradict evolution. And vice versa

Again, evolution has several different meanings, one of them being simple change. Creation of the universe by God contradicts The Theory of Evolution.

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God contradicts The Theory of Evolution. <<WOW at last god does contradict EVOLUTION ..
God contradicts SCIENCE KNOWLEDGE AND FREEDOM Grin..

So thanks for finally getting EVOLUTION .  God CONTRADICTS science ..Also my brains Grin..

The only thing the bible good for is if you read it over and over you will be good at reading writing and spelling Wink..That's it though..

No science no making stuffs just all BULLSHIT..
Now if your going to RELIGIOUSLY READ BULLSHIT   read CODE and science books that will give you EVERYTHING Wink

Why waste your time on lies when read the TRUTH Wink..

God made all the things that we discover through science. We haven't discovered evolution.

If you look through the history of evolution theory, you will find that evolution theory has never found anything that supports it other than the talk of people. Everything that might support evolution theory supports something else better, something like adaptation.

Since we haven't discovered evolution in the form that evolution theory suggests, and when evolution theory proves that such evolution doesn't exist like it has been doing, such evolution is a lie. When the lie is promoted as fact, it is a hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

But in the old days SCIENCE was witch craft and god didn't like it ..


Wrong! Witchcraft always was witchcraft, and science always was science... even though there was little science in the old days. But people are turning science into religion by professing that impossible evolution is reality.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

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Hydroxychloroquine is being used against Covid with great success >>> https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c.
Masks are stupid. Watch the first 5 minutes >>> https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/.
Don't be afraid to donate Bitcoin. Thank you. >>> 1JDJotyxZLFF8akGCxHeqMkD4YrrTmEAwz
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This ''His ways are mysterious and better than what we want.'' is actually one of the worst arguments from religious people. Why would you trust god then, if you don't know whether his actions are actually good or bad then why trust him? Even if he really existed, why would I follow him?

To evaluate it you have to have the gift of discernement. Most people do not want it because as Solomon had wrote - understanding and wisdom brings suffering to the wise person. People prefer to be dumb, but it is required for christian not to be dumb.

You don't have to be too smart to realize that slavery or rape is wrong yet the bible is full of it, in fact it endorses it and even has rules for it, great god you have.

The Bible is against people who kidnap, buy or sell other people for use as slaves. The Bible is totally in favor of people voluntarily selling themselves into temporary "slavery" when they are poor, so that they can get out of their poverty.

The Bible is totally against rape.

You totally misinterpret what is being done where there are certain judgments in the Bible that are different than the way that you would judge. Bible judgments are better. This can be seen by the fact that you would badmouth the Bible with your lies, in intentional ignorance, or maliciously.

In the same way that you talk falsely about the bible, so you talk falsely about evolution. There isn't any evolution in the sense of evolution theory. Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Look at your pathetic excuses... God couldn't find a better way to get people out of poverty than slavery? Why not a normal job where your master cannot beat you almost to death with no consequences.

''When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)''

There is no rational defense for all the disgusting verses in the bible yet you still think god not only exists but that he is actually good.

You are having such a difficult time understanding the mindset of those ancient people.

No defense is necessary for something that people hold as part of their living conditions when it is reality. But when you continue to reject God, there is no defense for you.

With the Bible words that you are showing, above, God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.

But you would rather maintain slavery for the minds of people by continuing to promote something as stupid as evolution. So, you are the slave maker here.

Cool

''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

Well, that's what God almost did... abolish and punish slavery. Almost? Yes, almost.

You see, God is too righteous and loving to involve Himself with punishing any crime, or even abolishing the freedom of people to do right or wrong. So, what Did God do that He ALMOST abolished and punished? He turned over the abolishment and punishment to the people, themselves.

How did God turn over the abolishment and punishment for any wrongdoing to people? By giving to people perfection which would give them a life without death... life filled with great joy without any punishment or need for abolishment. By doing this, God automatically built into nature the quality of abolishment and punishment for any imperfection that a person does. And you well know that all people do things that aren't perfect.

You well know many of the kinds of punishment that people get for their imperfections. They get pain and sorrow and eventually death for their imperfection. So, people create their own punishment and eventual abolishment, and the abolishment of their evil right along with their own abolishment in death.

But God didn't want people to abolish themselves. So, he gave them good laws that fit how the people lived... fit their mindset... so that they had some kind of a chance to reduce their self-inflicted punishment, and so that they might not abolish themselves quite as fast as if God had not given them these laws.

But, you might say? Why didn't God simply force them to not be able to be imperfect? Because then you would be complaining that God had made them slaves of perfection. This way God doesn't have to dirty His hands with abolishment and punishment, or slavery. He can maintain the good that He is giving people. And if people want abolishment and punishment, they can, of their own free will, maintain imperfection within themselves. God doesn't have to do it at all!

Where does that leave you? Perhaps in moderate peace for a time. But your personal abolishment and punishment is hanging over your head, ready and waiting to befall you. All you need to do is continue with the second greatest imperfection of all as you have been doing... rejecting the fact that God exists... next to which slavery is a glimmering candle-light in a cave of blackest darkness. If you won't change, your self-ordained and self-inflicted abolishment and punishment will catch up with you, and you won't like it in the least.

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But god killed millions with the flood and plagues and other methods, he took away people freedom many many times, why not do it for a good reason (to stop slavery) ?

I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You won the argument pages ago Astargath.  BD is simply too dense to understand it.

Even the leader of his cult says the Big Bang happened!   Cool

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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You won the argument pages ago Astargath.  BD is simply too dense to understand it.

Even the leader of his cult says the Big Bang happened!   Cool

Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.

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Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.

Yeah, Badecker is one of the most dense people I have ever met.  I tried to help him for over a year, but none of my methods were able to get through his brainwashing.  That guy probably goes to his church a couple times each day, and I doubt he has any relationships outside the church.

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This ''His ways are mysterious and better than what we want.'' is actually one of the worst arguments from religious people. Why would you trust god then, if you don't know whether his actions are actually good or bad then why trust him? Even if he really existed, why would I follow him?

To evaluate it you have to have the gift of discernement. Most people do not want it because as Solomon had wrote - understanding and wisdom brings suffering to the wise person. People prefer to be dumb, but it is required for christian not to be dumb.

You don't have to be too smart to realize that slavery or rape is wrong yet the bible is full of it, in fact it endorses it and even has rules for it, great god you have.

The Bible is against people who kidnap, buy or sell other people for use as slaves. The Bible is totally in favor of people voluntarily selling themselves into temporary "slavery" when they are poor, so that they can get out of their poverty.

The Bible is totally against rape.

You totally misinterpret what is being done where there are certain judgments in the Bible that are different than the way that you would judge. Bible judgments are better. This can be seen by the fact that you would badmouth the Bible with your lies, in intentional ignorance, or maliciously.

In the same way that you talk falsely about the bible, so you talk falsely about evolution. There isn't any evolution in the sense of evolution theory. Evolution is a hoax.

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Look at your pathetic excuses... God couldn't find a better way to get people out of poverty than slavery? Why not a normal job where your master cannot beat you almost to death with no consequences.

''When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished.  If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)''

There is no rational defense for all the disgusting verses in the bible yet you still think god not only exists but that he is actually good.

You are having such a difficult time understanding the mindset of those ancient people.

No defense is necessary for something that people hold as part of their living conditions when it is reality. But when you continue to reject God, there is no defense for you.

With the Bible words that you are showing, above, God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.

But you would rather maintain slavery for the minds of people by continuing to promote something as stupid as evolution. So, you are the slave maker here.

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''God is bringing the position of slavery out into the beginnings of freedom for the slave. Prior to that wording from God, there was no punishment for the slave-owner even if the slave died at his hands.'' WOOW god is so merciful with his laws, instead of simply abolishing and punishing any kind of slavery he only punishes owners if they kill their slaves, benevolent god...

Well, that's what God almost did... abolish and punish slavery. Almost? Yes, almost.

You see, God is too righteous and loving to involve Himself with punishing any crime, or even abolishing the freedom of people to do right or wrong. So, what Did God do that He ALMOST abolished and punished? He turned over the abolishment and punishment to the people, themselves.

How did God turn over the abolishment and punishment for any wrongdoing to people? By giving to people perfection which would give them a life without death... life filled with great joy without any punishment or need for abolishment. By doing this, God automatically built into nature the quality of abolishment and punishment for any imperfection that a person does. And you well know that all people do things that aren't perfect.

You well know many of the kinds of punishment that people get for their imperfections. They get pain and sorrow and eventually death for their imperfection. So, people create their own punishment and eventual abolishment, and the abolishment of their evil right along with their own abolishment in death.

But God didn't want people to abolish themselves. So, he gave them good laws that fit how the people lived... fit their mindset... so that they had some kind of a chance to reduce their self-inflicted punishment, and so that they might not abolish themselves quite as fast as if God had not given them these laws.

But, you might say? Why didn't God simply force them to not be able to be imperfect? Because then you would be complaining that God had made them slaves of perfection. This way God doesn't have to dirty His hands with abolishment and punishment, or slavery. He can maintain the good that He is giving people. And if people want abolishment and punishment, they can, of their own free will, maintain imperfection within themselves. God doesn't have to do it at all!

Where does that leave you? Perhaps in moderate peace for a time. But your personal abolishment and punishment is hanging over your head, ready and waiting to befall you. All you need to do is continue with the second greatest imperfection of all as you have been doing... rejecting the fact that God exists... next to which slavery is a glimmering candle-light in a cave of blackest darkness. If you won't change, your self-ordained and self-inflicted abolishment and punishment will catch up with you, and you won't like it in the least.

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But god killed millions with the flood and plagues and other methods, he took away people freedom many many times, why not do it for a good reason (to stop slavery) ?

I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You act with the slavery issue the same way you act with the evolution issue. You don't care what the truth is. You would rather continue to profess your stupidity. This makes you either a fool, or a troll or both.

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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You won the argument pages ago Astargath.  BD is simply too dense to understand it.

Even the leader of his cult says the Big Bang happened!   Cool

Evolution deniers are going extinct, badecker and his other buddy in this thread are probably the last few ones. It's just really mind boggling to me how someone tries to defend slavery or rape just to keep believing in what they believe.

We clearly do not defend being a slaver (to hunt for people to enslave them) and neither being a rapist. Both were to be punished with death in the Bible if one is cought on doing so.

You are clearly having an agenda behind you. You were provided the evidences about the rape that it is the satanic translation matter. And yet you provide the things that is proven to be the gate to troll the christianity. Just like the fake evolution evidences you provide is the troll gate to harass the christianity.

I am not an evolution denier. There is nothing to be denied. Even if BB is true you have a question - what have caused it and a whole lot of issues along with many improbabilities and few impossibilities. That is still a lot less than you already know. And if you already know then you presuppose. If you presuppose - you believe. If you believe in it - it is your religion. If your religion is improbable - you are a fanatic.

If we are at labelling people you are the evolutionist self-assurers. Circle of adoration. People crave to be adored I obviously crave less about it than you. Im not afraid of your shaming as I have my king Jesus Christ behind me.

You want to shame people by calling someone losers. You are not even close to being a predominate majority. I would say that 66% people including atheists believe we came from monkeys. With all this support from the media and a 100% control of the schools. That is so weak. Even with this generation that is being out of touch with reality you cannot make the numbers more than 66-75%, and close to 50% in the religious community.

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I will tell you why, because god is either an idiot or he doesn't exist.

You know? If you do not get the reserve of a doubt of not understanding something, then I use the same standards for you. You get a faaar away from the truth that way. That way I could judge you being a troll. I hope you are not. That would mean I had only waste my time.

If you are a troll why should I bother? If God does not exist - why would you bother?

Astargath no longer exist. It is just a matter of time. You do not know it but soon all sinners will be as they would never exist. Pooof.... like a dust you are on the wind.....
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In my opinion,
In geology, we have found 2 or 3 times the number of fossils because there are living species. We really have not found the missing link. But...
If there are all kinds of fossils out there, it's like a link lost by the similarities and small differences, we still will not know that they are part of evolution, or if they are all different species created by God.
You have to find a living trans species to know that fossils have evolutionary evidence.
Avolution shoots itself as it shows a huge stretch of time between recognizable changes.
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Most Christians don't have a problem with evolution.
Only creationists do because they take the Bible too literally. It's a metaphoric book, church fathers, saints and mystics new this, but it takes some mental sophistication and flexibility too understand metaphors and accept that the Bible was written by fallible men who had to deal with knowledge available in their age. Acknowledging this is the only way Christianity can survive in the West. It was because of people like creationists that Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was killed by mental incompetence of his followers. Luckily, there are many religious streams, so everyone can choose according to his understanding.
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no, i dont belive. imagine how everything is structured in our nature, everything is so logical. haox brings haox, but take a walk in a nearby forest, pureness and calness is everywhere, thats the result of evolution
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Most Christians don't have a problem with evolution.
Only creationists do because they take the Bible too literally. It's a metaphoric book, church fathers, saints and mystics new this, but it takes some mental sophistication and flexibility too understand metaphors and accept that the Bible was written by fallible men who had to deal with knowledge available in their age. Acknowledging this is the only way Christianity can survive in the West. It was because of people like creationists that Nietzsche said that God is dead. He was killed by mental incompetence of his followers. Luckily, there are many religious streams, so everyone can choose according to his understanding.

No... It is because of the people like you Nietzsche have said that the God is dead. Do you even know his writtings? He was implying noone takes the Bible seriously within the christianity, so he guessed that God must be a dead letter. He was talking about platonists that he have utterly and totally hate, the catholic church fathers loved and embraced platonism that have absolutely nothing with the Bible. It is the people you view as christians that are not was what Nietzsche hated. I am fairly sure we would agree with Nietzsche on a lot more issues than you, even if he was self proclaimed antichristian, and I am self proclaimed Christian
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no, i dont belive. imagine how everything is structured in our nature, everything is so logical. haox brings haox, but take a walk in a nearby forest, pureness and calness is everywhere, thats the result of evolution

I dont know what forest were you in but the order is not its main feature. The problem with the forest is that we the human race like to get away from the problems so going to a different enviroment relieve us from our anxieties. I personally had the same feeling going to a silent abandoned building as going to a forest both gives tranquility because you have drasticly change your habitat. But believe me. No man want to live neither in the forest nor abandoned destroyed upopulated construct.

I personally I think you too as well feel the same relief going to like going away from the forest.

It is just a anxiety relief based on a fight/flight response based on the hormones and its role. You feel safe having the space to run away to.

That is why God have ordained for a people to feel secure to have a sanctuary cities.

Pagans like you had their groves, but both are absolutely the same thing.
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March 13, 2018, 01:37:45 PM
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Why do people talk about evolution when they clearly have no idea what evolution is in the first place? Why not use google instead of saying the stupidest shit (Why are there still monkeys) Why don't you inform yourselves before jumping to idiotic conclusions?
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March 13, 2018, 02:09:47 PM
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Why do people talk about evolution when they clearly have no idea what evolution is in the first place? Why not use google instead of saying the stupidest shit (Why are there still monkeys) Why don't you inform yourselves before jumping to idiotic conclusions?

Why wouldnt you google creationism genius? Not every creationist is stupid ok?

Btw why not google both and make your own opinion not based on one source?

So much hipocrisy in the world.... just wow.
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